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jordan... 02.07.2008 09:26 AM

Whats the best lipos and charger?
 
Hi everyone, sorry for the newbie post, i'm still pretty new to this stuff, and i know i get a bit pssed off when i see "whats the fastest brushless motor" threads over and over again. Buuuuttt...

since i am considering lipos, i was wondering what a good charger to get would be. Has anyone had experience with the Hyperion EOS0610i?:

http://www.impaktrc.com/product_info...oducts_id=2058

also, what are the better brands of lipo's, i was thinking along the lines of flightpower?? are there any others i should consider?

thanks in advance
jordan

sleebus.jones 02.07.2008 10:12 AM

I've got a 1210i and I love it. I'd assume the 0610i is the same, except for a lower cell capacity. It's a great charger.

generalg 02.07.2008 10:50 AM

From what I have read / searched one of the best chargers for LIPO's is the FMA CellPro charger. Might be a charger to consider. There is also a bigger Cellpro charger being released soon. jmo.

FullMetalGrave 02.07.2008 11:28 AM

I don't have too much experience but I am really partial to my Apogee LiMn packs. Their customer service is awesome too.

*Edit: I forgot to add the charger. I have been using a Duratrax ICE and it does ok.

legobrains 02.07.2008 11:31 AM

I think the hyperion line are great chargers.
See this post for all the differences between the chargers: (Download the excel spreadsheet)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=773058

I have a 1210 and it does A123 cells also, which I really like. I also have a Hobbico accucycle elite. It was my first charger and was great also. It comes with a power supply and can do 2 batteries at once. But it can only go up to 3 cell lipos.

rschoi_75 02.07.2008 01:04 PM

I have the hyperion 0610i charger you linked. It works flawlessly. Very simple to use and easy to transport. I bought this one since it can go up to 6s lipos, and my old Ice charger maxed out at 4s. The built in lba10 balancer is a nice feature too, since I'm absent minded an have forgot my balancer at home a few times during road trips.

As for lipos, there are a few great companies out there with similar quality products. People around here generally approve of these companies:
- Flightpower
- Thunderpower
- Hyperion
- Apache
- Neu Energy
- Polyquest

jordan... 02.07.2008 09:51 PM

thanks for all the info guys, definately very helpful!!

I'll have to start looking into all those different brands of lipo's now. Can the 0610i charge to batts at once, for example two 3s packs at once?

Takedown 02.07.2008 10:33 PM

You might also if you dont plan to run over 5s look into the Great Planes Triton 2. Ive had mine for about 2 months now and I couldnt be happier.

johnrobholmes 02.07.2008 10:36 PM

The 0610 can charge two 3s packs in series. I love hyperion chargers, and the batteries are good too. Post 6 is a great list of quality cells.

Takedown 02.07.2008 10:38 PM

Dont forget Kokam...

Haldir 02.08.2008 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 147554)
Dont forget Kokam...


+111111111111111

nativepaul 02.08.2008 04:45 AM

Wow, that's some multiple personality disorder you have there Haldir.

jordan... 02.08.2008 05:45 AM

ok, so i've done some sniffing around and i need some opinions. Which do you think will give me the best performance seeing as they're all roughly the same price.

Thunderpower eXtreme V2 5000mah 3s packs (Max continuous discharge 25C, Max burst discharge 50C, Max continuous current 125A, Max burst current 250A): http://thunderpowerrc.com/html/extreme-V2.html

Flightpower EVO 25 5000mah 3s packs (25C 125A CONTINUOUS, 50C 250 AMP BURSTS DIMMENSIONS: 167MM/48.3MM/26.8MM): http://www.flightpower.co.uk/index.a...p^currency=USD

Flightpower EVO 30 4500mah 3s packs (30C 135A CONTINUOUS, 60C 270 AMP BURSTS DIMMENSIONS: 165MM/46MM/25MM): http://www.flightpower.co.uk/index.a...p^currency=USD

i'm kinda confused because i can either get a higher mah, or larger um... "C" values (excuse my noobness) :oops: for roughly the same price

thanks for all the help
jordan

nativepaul 02.08.2008 06:55 AM

30c.

lincpimp 02.08.2008 09:14 AM

Just go for the gold and get some 1500 nicd venom packs, and a mega 1 timed charger. You can easily get 45min runtimes and charge in 10mins with this setup.

Note the sarcasm.

Arct1k 02.08.2008 09:37 AM

25c 5000 should be fine - I also vote for the hyperion...

jordan... 02.09.2008 04:00 AM

hmm... at the moment i think i'll go for the thunderpower batteries and the Hyperion charger

anymore opinions on the batts??

thanks alot
jordan

chumanji 02.10.2008 03:41 AM

How about the TME Xtrema?

I am using A123 cells right now and they are great. Bought 2 dewalt 36v pack for $140 off ebay. You can make 2 18v pack out of that.

team3six 02.10.2008 03:46 AM

Hyperion is one of the do all chargers, but I do believe the best one out there at the moment would be the MRC 989.

rschoi_75 02.10.2008 11:39 AM

the list you had on post 13 is fine. I'd also go with the flightpower 30C 4500mah like nativepaul suggested.

But I am also partial to those venom 1500 packs too. those thing pack some mean punch. But Linc, you forgot the platinum standard. Nothing beats using a pair of Duracell 9v alkaline batteries. Dude, 18v... and think of the weight you're saving.... game over.

... trying to keep a straight face....

Desmo 02.10.2008 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 147668)
Just go for the gold and get some 1500 nicd venom packs, and a mega 1 timed charger. You can easily get 45min runtimes and charge in 10mins with this setup.

Note the sarcasm.

sure, in a 380 brushed motor grasshopper :rofl:

lincpimp 02.10.2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rschoi_75 (Post 148158)
the list you had on post 13 is fine. I'd also go with the flightpower 30C 4500mah like nativepaul suggested.

But I am also partial to those venom 1500 packs too. those thing pack some mean punch. But Linc, you forgot the platinum standard. Nothing beats using a pair of Duracell 9v alkaline batteries. Dude, 18v... and think of the weight you're saving.... game over.

... trying to keep a straight face....

I do not have good enough equipment to hold up to the duracell 9v. I once tried some dollar store 9v batts and blew up my tranny and toasted a motor, the windings just melted from the raw power. The performace was spectacular while it lasted. From what I have heard schultze is the only esc that can handle that knid of power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmo (Post 148189)
sure, in a 380 brushed motor grasshopper :rofl:

Way to much power with the 380 motor, it will tear that grasshoper apart. I usually save the 380 brushed motors for my 1/5 scale builds, even then I am constantly changing diffs!

jordan... 02.10.2008 09:47 PM

one time i hooked 2 car batteries into my stock EVX for 24v, worked like a charm. with a 30+ pound car with stock titans i think i was reaching speeds in excess of 70mph!!

just recently as well i made a v-tri, three velineon motors, each running on a 12s pack. Wasn't too happy with the performance though, topped out at around 10 mph, also wrecked my new custom painted bodyshell when my truck burst into flames :tongue:

:lol:

but seriously... if the MMM is rated up to 6s, is it wise to be running 6s, will it shorten the life of the ESC and motor? Should i back it down to 5s?

thanks
jordan

jordan... 02.10.2008 11:00 PM

another thing, i was wondering what the runtimes of the 4500mah batteries compared to the 5000mah batteries are, would there be much difference?

what runtimes do you think i am looking at for each?

thanks alot
jordan

nativepaul 02.12.2008 12:42 AM

well there's 10% difference in capacity but with the 30C battery giving higher voltage under load you may find yourself using more throttle control or breaking traction and unloading more and seeing similar or maybe even longer run times.


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