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ssspconcepts 02.16.2008 06:26 PM

RC Monster direct drive unit for FLM E-Maxx
 
Just got it from Mike...

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ssspconcepts/TitanMaxx/photo#5167705962812325266"><img src="http://lh5.google.com/ssspconcepts/R7dhMYkYvZI/AAAAAAAABSQ/Px9WyFX3n8E/s800/IMG_2058.JPG" /></a>

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ssspconcepts/TitanMaxx/photo#5167705979992194466"><img src="http://lh5.google.com/ssspconcepts/R7dhNYkYvaI/AAAAAAAABSY/NeyiabnKHqg/s800/IMG_2059.JPG" /></a>

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ssspconcepts/TitanMaxx/photo#5167705997172063666"><img src="http://lh5.google.com/ssspconcepts/R7dhOYkYvbI/AAAAAAAABSg/qmM5ALJhlAk/s800/IMG_2061.JPG" /></a>

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ssspconcepts/TitanMaxx/photo#5167706010056965570"><img src="http://lh4.google.com/ssspconcepts/R7dhPIkYvcI/AAAAAAAABSo/MVvJx9iK7Dg/s800/IMG_2062.JPG" /></a>

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ssspconcepts/TitanMaxx/photo#5167706022941867474"><img src="http://lh3.google.com/ssspconcepts/R7dhP4kYvdI/AAAAAAAABSw/MIs73BVkjL4/s800/IMG_2063.JPG" /></a>

ssspconcepts 02.16.2008 06:28 PM

Two more photos....
 
Check out how low the motor sits compared to the G-Maxx tranny.

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ssspconcepts/TitanMaxx/photo#5167708183310417378"><img src="http://lh6.google.com/ssspconcepts/R7djNokYveI/AAAAAAAABTQ/8Y3FfDS9H-w/s800/IMG_2060.JPG" /></a>

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ssspconcepts/TitanMaxx/photo#5149877093746027138"><img src="http://lh6.google.com/ssspconcepts/R3gJ7nmnKoI/AAAAAAAABH0/GaJAv0E2mgA/s800/IMG_1961.JPG" /></a>

phildogg 02.16.2008 06:41 PM

now that looks good there,I'm liking the lower cog also.
phil

suicideneil 02.16.2008 06:56 PM

####! FLM chassis though... hmm, wonder what could be done for the Gmaxx chassis- something like the one in Serum's Erevo maybe?.... *ponders*

I assume you could mount it with the motor facing towards the rear of the truck, just a matter of finding driveshafts the correct length?

RCShocker 02.16.2008 07:46 PM

Well thats pretty sick !!!

I'm at a loss for words ................

ssspconcepts 02.16.2008 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 149603)
####! FLM chassis though... hmm, wonder what could be done for the Gmaxx chassis- something like the one in Serum's Erevo maybe?.... *ponders*

I assume you could mount it with the motor facing towards the rear of the truck, just a matter of finding driveshafts the correct length?

I tried mounting the unit with the motor in the rear...the shafts were fine...the problem was that the truck was very heavy in the rear end and there was no room for the massive MGM ESC. Note that I had to dremel the chassis top plate so the diff spur would fit. This setup seemed to work best for me. Mike will probably be selling these in the RCM store soon.

Mike is suppose to be working a unit that will fit the Gorillamaxx chassis.

suicideneil 02.16.2008 08:05 PM

Ah, that sounds about right about the weight/balance issue, and I see that the MGM esc is rather chunky to mount it any place else. All very good news though, I've been waiting an age for someone to design a centre diff/motor mount like that for the gmaxx chassis- I dont like offset motors, doesnt look balanced (even if it is weight wise). I figured the chassis rails would need trimming though, they are just too narrow for a reasonably sized spur to fit between them, so that fine with me.

One question I have on behalf of someone on another forum- what centre diff is that you went with? cheers.

mkrusedc 02.16.2008 08:34 PM

Forgive my ignorance but, what center diff is that? Looks like my next upgrade :mdr:

ssspconcepts 02.16.2008 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 149612)
Ah, that sounds about right about the weight/balance issue, and I see that the MGM esc is rather chunky to mount it any place else. All very good news though, I've been waiting an age for someone to design a centre diff/motor mount like that for the gmaxx chassis- I dont like offset motors, doesnt look balanced (even if it is weight wise). I figured the chassis rails would need trimming though, they are just too narrow for a reasonably sized spur to fit between them, so that fine with me.

One question I have on behalf of someone on another forum- what centre diff is that you went with? cheers.

I used a 48T spur...it just barely fit between the chassis rails. However, I did have to trim the chassis top plate.

ssspconcepts 02.16.2008 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 149616)
Forgive my ignorance but, what tranny is that?

Its a custom center diff mount that Mike made for me. It replaces the stock tranny with a 1/8 scale center differential.

mkrusedc 02.16.2008 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssspconcepts (Post 149619)
Its a custom center diff mount that Mike made for me. It replaces the stock tranny with a 1/8 scale center differential.

Which 1/8 diff is it? That just look so sick. I would love to try it. Thanks.

Mark

ssspconcepts 02.16.2008 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 149620)
Which 1/8 diff is it? That just look so sick. I would love to try it. Thanks.

Mark

I used the Spider diff that goes to the hyper 8.5 (I think)...but any standard 1/8 scale Ofna diff will work.

mkrusedc 02.16.2008 10:09 PM

Thanks. I am going to read and learn about buggy diffs...........

lincpimp 02.16.2008 10:20 PM

Anyone thinking that one of the slipper/diff units that we recently had a thread about would be killer with this mount setup? I would add a pair of the hybrid bulks and a full rpm treatment for a grat basher that was also track worthy.

ssspconcepts 02.16.2008 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 149629)
Anyone thinking that one of the slipper/diff units that we recently had a thread about would be killer with this mount setup? I would add a pair of the hybrid bulks and a full rpm treatment for a grat basher that was also track worthy.

Yep...I am running the hybrids with UE diffs and also eagerly awaiting the slipper diff...if it takes too long, I may try to use the center slipper diff from the Ofna Monster Pirate.

I'd also like to see a diff mount like this for the Gorilla chassis...

mkrusedc 02.16.2008 11:02 PM

Where can you get the Ofna diffs?

lincpimp 02.16.2008 11:05 PM

Any chance for a link or parts list for the monster pirate slipper setup?

ssspconcepts 02.16.2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 149634)
Any chance for a link or parts list for the monster pirate slipper setup?

http://www.nitrohouse.com/ofna_pirate_monster.htm

Here is the Manual (Pirate MT Sport):
http://www.ofna.com/manuals.html

lincpimp 02.17.2008 12:22 AM

Well, I read the manual and cannot seem to find the parts on nitrohouse. Ofna #18987 appears to be the assembly that is required.

mkrusedc 02.17.2008 12:33 AM

Would this work?

http://www.rcplanet.com/Transmission...tial_s/681.htm

lincpimp 02.17.2008 12:37 AM

You mean the 2 speed?

I was looking for the plastic gear (66t?) with the slipper assy, as pictured with the monster pirate: http://www.ofna.com/mon_pirate_80.html

Middle of the page there is a pic of what looks like a plastic spur with a slipper assy.

mkrusedc 02.17.2008 12:42 AM

No this. It is a complete 1/8 center diff:

http://www.rcplanet.com/Ofna_Torsen_...p/ofn10597.htm

jefierro 02.17.2008 01:21 AM

How many teeth is in that pinion you R using?
would this work on a HV4.5 on 12 cells?

drkros3 02.17.2008 01:55 AM

does rc-monster sell them those direct drive units yet. cause i cant find them on there site.

or im a just dump and keep over looking it.

mkrusedc 02.17.2008 02:01 AM

Here it is again at Tower. Would this work?

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCXA3&P=7

mkrusedc 02.17.2008 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefierro (Post 149649)
How many teeth is in that pinion you R using?
would this work on a HV4.5 on 12 cells?


Can you gear a Hvmaxx motors that low? Feigao/Neus should be ok.

lincpimp 02.17.2008 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 149653)
Here it is again at Tower. Would this work?

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCXA3&P=7

From what I have heard, these diffs cannot handle brushless power. The std 6 gear diff seems to be more sturdy and just alter the fluid for desired feel.

tashpop 02.17.2008 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefierro (Post 149649)
How many teeth is in that pinion you R using?
would this work on a HV4.5 on 12 cells?

i see no reason why it wouldn't. remember that this takes away the transmission, so gearing will be way different than it was before. you'll use setups simular to what the truggys uses. make sure to use the speed calculator to get the gearing right.

captain harlock 02.17.2008 10:01 AM

Hey guys, when is the G-Maxx unit going to come out?

ssspconcepts 02.17.2008 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkros3 (Post 149651)
does rc-monster sell them those direct drive units yet. cause i cant find them on there site.

or im a just dump and keep over looking it.

Mike made these custom for me, but I understand now that he knows all the parts fit and work fine he will be selling them.

ssspconcepts 02.17.2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock (Post 149671)
Hey guys, when is the G-Maxx unit going to come out?

I wish I knew...I have a G3R just waiting for one! But it IS COMING.

Serum 02.17.2008 10:30 AM

it's missing a slipper, that's for sure.

i don't like the high cg of the flm chassis in general.

GorillaMaxx360 02.17.2008 10:57 AM

one quick question. You did say that the motor can be turned around and is made to be turned around right. You just did not like the rear weight bias of the motor on the other side. I am i correct.

captain harlock 02.17.2008 11:16 AM

From the looks of the design, it is very possible to turn it to the other side.

macr0w 02.17.2008 11:21 AM

Very nice! I may be looking at one of these in the future. :mdr:

mkrusedc 02.17.2008 11:27 AM

So the 9.5 won't work, right. I need to find a monster pirate diff?

ssspconcepts 02.17.2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360 (Post 149684)
one quick question. You did say that the motor can be turned around and is made to be turned around right. You just did not like the rear weight bias of the motor on the other side. I am i correct.

You are exactly correct...I also did not like the way my MGM ESC fit with the motor positioned to the rear.

ssspconcepts 02.17.2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 149681)
it's missing a slipper, that's for sure.

i don't like the high cg of the flm chassis in general.

I am patiently awaiting Mike's new slipper diff. I hear you on the FLM chassis...its definitely not a racer...but it suits my needs.

ssspconcepts 02.17.2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock (Post 149687)
From the looks of the design, it is very possible to turn it to the other side.

Yes it works either way...

suicideneil 02.17.2008 12:02 PM

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXCWK5&P=SM

A cheaper alternative maybe? Does the center diff use 8x16 bearings?


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