40 series tires for Revo?
 

Hey guys, I haven't come on the forum here in a while, it's nice to be back...

My question is, how to 40 series tires perform on the Revo? I need new tires here soon and would like something more 'precise' than a badland tire.

So for the guys that have run them, i would like to know everything about them, notable differences? In what way?

THanks.

My advice is to stay away from them, especially on a Revo. They make you pop your knuckles off the pillowballs very easily, and they eat up knuckle bearings much quicker. When I got sick of popped knuckles and upgraded to alloy knuckles the bearing headache sarted... regular wheels solved those problems (to an extend)
This was like 3 years ago, before we had those narrow truggy wheels. If you want a "precise" tire, go the truggy way.

Just my opinion and experience.

Daf

A different opinion - the stock revo wheels/tyres are similar to 40 series for starters, and I have run them plus many other 40 series and non 40 series wheels/tires during the 12 months since I bought my Revo 3.3. I have never popped a knuckle off a pillowball or killed a wheel bearing - they all actually feel pretty smooth.

That said, although I'm technically a basher (ie never been in a proper race, and am rarely on a proper track), my bashing is more than just driving off cliffs and into walls and crap that I often associate with bashing from youtube or whatever. I do high speed runs, I like to build my own jumps or spend time shaping jumps out of natural terrain (ie have a proper landing, no flatlandings) and dont go mudding and stuff like that.

If the knuckles do become a problem, I imgaine the RPM hub carriers would be a good upgrade, much more reinforced around the pillow ball area with oversized bearings - I've always wanted to get them but have never needed to :)

Which reminds me of another thing which could account for my added durability - one of the things I liked about the revo was how all the pillow balls and drive shafts etc were sealed - if ever i notice a frayed/broken seal I like replace them. Only had to do each corner once so far, and it was in one sitting just recently (well... it wasnt a single sitting because I only just received the last kit to complete the truck and havent put it on yet, but I havent used the truck either :P)

You talking 40's like BIG JOE 40's or the Bowtie LPR 40's. The Big Joes/Mashers big ones seem to really hinder the performance of it. They are heavy and really limit you steering travel. You get more tire for trackion and they can look pretty cool. I put my big joes on when I know I'm gonna do some jumping. I like the extra cushion they seem to provide with the revo so low to the ground it nice. But I don't run them for long.

I like the Low Profile 40's they are wider but they are not taller or heaver then say the stock tires. Give you more tire for traction and a little more stable. But I seem to also loose a little off the steering. It doesn't seem as responsive with them on compared to a stock size tire.

The Badlands have been recommended to me for the revo by some that use them. I have been looking for a buy on them. Being a Truggy style they should be a more precise tire for handling.

So I also wouldn't recommend a 40 series tire for an all around tire. If your looking for something to just throw on once in a while they are fun and give you the MT bounce.

As far as recommendations go, I have settled on badlands - definitely my fave of the bunch :)

Thanks guys, I do already have badlands, and I love them... just not the ballooning department.

Well, i guess I will stick to the Badlands then. :neutral::smile:

Why not belt the badlands to stop the balooning?

Goood idea Lover72... I have wanted to do that anyways. I'll maybe pick up a new pair and use fiber glass and resin on them. :rofl:

ZPB, good to see ya. I love the badlands for bashing as well, but hate the ballooning too. One thing I was considering doing so I didnt have to rebuy the tires is to cut them off of the wheels they are now right at the bead and then get a set of the new LPR wheels from proline or losi, belt the tires and then glue them on the bigger dia wheels beadless. I saw an artical in one of the magazines on how to mount a standard MT tire on the new LPR wheels by cutting off the bead on the tire and it looked pretty straight forward.

The combination of the lower sidewall and the belting should make them very stable at speed. Plus the added bonus is you dont have to buy new tires (those badlands last forever) or fight with the "un-glueing" process.

Just an Idea I have been thinking about doing, but haven't gotten to it yet.

EDIT: I had some 40s for a little while. I thought they were a bit clumsy IMO. I eventually went to the truggy style wheels too.

I think gtx just did this for his crt in the truggy forum - I think there were pics of the actual process

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10202

What about Badlands balooning???

I've buy it for my e-revo, mount on Ofna half offset wheel but not try it yet.

You say that this tire baloon alot??

I don't have a brushless 1/8th but I'm suprised about the ballooning. My badlands don't balloon at all on my savage but I suppose it mustn't be going fast enough. Bring on the brushless savage.

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:oh:pizza cutter:surprised:
But they allow for some free m/h:rofl:

What are your setup on your revo Sammus?

Yeah, they do balloon more than the Bow-Tie's, for instance... not near as bad as the Mashers though. More than ideal, however. Acts as a gyro at speed, stabilizing the truck to keep straight.

I think I'll just belt the badlands in the end, you can't go wrong with the tread.

Yes, the Badlands tread lasts and lasts; even when gunning the throttle on rough gravel, and having them balloon... you would think they would be worn down in no time. :neutral:

I have been thinking about getting some preglued tires. The Badlands are what I am looing into. I have not been real successful with the balancing of the tires when I glued them and the ones I have gotten used that were glued. I was wondering about how to "Tape" a preglued tire. It sounds like you belt a preglued tire. What is belting a tire or How do you belt a tire?

BTW, I have been using the Badlands on the OFF-SET Velocity wheels. What has everyone else used? (Standard, or OFF-SET) And has anyone used both standard and off-set on the same tire?

I've Ofna dish 1/2 offset.

Okay, so belting is the same thing as taping the inside of tire. Sorry I now realize that was a dumb question. Never heard it called belting before and misread lincs post and thought he was going to belt some tires that were already glued.

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10169

Am going to get some proper footage of it soon, also fix up the battery tray! and get a new ESC.. i hate that stupid sentilon now. I think ill wait for the MMM though, or buy a new motor and run 4s over the MM if the MMM isnt released by late april...

Lincpimp, fiberglass yes, resin no.

I used to work for a realy cool old guy who loved to use his truck as a bird dog of sorts, he would put it into 4wd/low and let it idle along in 1st gear. As it scared out the quail, he would hunt them.

He never got flat tires though the truck would return to the shop with huge sticks and cactus poking out of them. I pulled the debris from the tires for months before he let me onto how he was doing it.

He would run standard mud/snow tires, add a layer of rubber cement, add a layer of fiberglass resin to the still wet cement, then let it dry. Another layer of rubber cement and let it dry. Finish off with a tube at 15 p.s.i. and no flats.

When a stick would puncture the tire, it would hit the fiberglass, turn sideways and never puncture the tube.

I have yet to try the fiberglass/rubber cement on an RC tire yet, but it seems like it would carry over. Just clean out the "mold release agent" from the inside of the tire before you stick anything in there (even packing tape, which I have tried).

If your tires are already glued on just stick them in your oven on a metal cookie tray for 350-400F for 20-30 minutes. Grab some really thick gloves and just take the tire off the rim, when the glue is melted they come off super easy. It will stink in your house for a 1/2 hour after you open the oven but it works great and saves lots of $$$$$

For killing the balloning this will work on any tire. Turn your tire inside out, scrub down the inside of the tire with rubbing alchol and then tape the inside of the tire with duct tape and make sure you overlap the duct tap by at least 1-2" inches. = Balloning permantly done!

Baking the tires has worked better for me then the boiling method. It actually took the burnt electrical smell out of the house.:lol:


Anyone got any tips for balancing tires? Before or after the tires are mounted. Best one I've heard so far is sell them and get new ones.

I use self adhesive lead tape (available at golf shops) to balance my wheels/tires. I use an old hub and lightly worn but still smooth bearings with seals removed and an old cvd axle. Mount the wheel/tire up and let it spin until it stops. Add weight to the top (light side) until in to longer stops in the same spot.

Great tip. Thanks. I'm going to try that. Got some decent tires they work when bashing but the speed runs are pretty shakey.

I had one set of 40 series that were so bad, hard acceleration would make the truck shake! After balancing, they go full speed and full throttle no problems.