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DickyT 04.26.2008 02:19 AM

New toy on the way!
 
I did it. I bought my 1st buggy in over 20 years. It should be here next week sometime. I will put an mm5700 that I have in it and an sr3100 rx for my dx3r.

Stock Photo
http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uplo...lazerzx5sp.jpg

My order:
Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 SP 1/10 4WD Racing Buggy
Xtreme Racing Kyosho Lazer Thick Carbon Fiber Front Shock Tower (4mm)
Xtreme Racing Kyosho Lazer Thick Carbon Fiber Rear Shock Tower (4mm)
Team Losi IFMAR Stud 2.2" Front 4WD Buggy Tires (Silver)Team Losi IFMAR Stud 2.2" Rear Buggy Tires (Silver)
Kyosho Spur Gear (48P-76T)
Kyosho Spur Gear (48P-78T)
Kyosho Suspension Arm Set (ZX-5 SP) x2
Hot Bodies Yellow Rear Wheel (Cyclone D4)
Hot Bodies Yellow Front Wheel (Cyclone D4)
Hitec HS-645MG High Torque Metal Gear Servo
Team Losi Rear Buggy Liner,Firm
Team Losi Front 4wd Foam Liners, Firm

Patrick 04.26.2008 02:33 AM

Nice. Are you going to race it? I'm interested to know what they're like, because I've been considering getting a 4wd buggy so I have a second class to race at my track. The kyosho is higher on the list of choices than some others, because I don't want saddle packs. Some of the others a belt driven as well, but I'm not sure which is better.
Which batteries you going to use?

DickyT 04.26.2008 02:38 AM

I will bash it mostly but may try my hand at racing, or at least a practice night or two. I will be running 2s 4000mah and 3s 5000mah max amps lipos.

I almost walked out of my LHS with a b44 today, but the saddle packs were the deciding factor. I already have the other batteries with less than 10 cycles on them.

Patrick 04.26.2008 02:43 AM

It's worth having a go at racing a car like that, it's what they're best at. 4wd buggies have pretty impressive handling on the track, plus they put the power down better than the 2wds.

DRIFT_BUGGY 04.26.2008 02:53 AM

I have owned a few 4wd buggies over the last 5 years - XXX4, XXX4G+, BJ4 & B44. Was looking at trying one of these out aswell

big greg 04.27.2008 03:34 AM

how much did that set ya back there dicky?

DickyT 04.27.2008 11:04 AM

The buggy + the spares I have lister was $420 shipped. I have the rest of the electronics and batteries already. Batteries was the only reason I did not walk out of the LHS with an AE B44. I did not want to buy saddle packs when I already have perfectly fine batteries.

big greg 04.28.2008 11:05 PM

man i thought that was a little cheaper than that, looking for a competition buggy myself

Patrick 04.29.2008 09:15 AM

His is the kit, racing version. The rtr versions are a bit cheaper.

big greg 04.29.2008 09:38 AM

figured the kits would be a little cheaper less the electroics, but then again the racing version

DickyT 04.29.2008 10:13 AM

The kit come hopped up already, the known issues have been dealt with, the suspension is completely different geometry from the rtr, higher grade materials are used, it is not uncommon for the high end kit to cost more than the rtr.

big greg 04.30.2008 01:03 AM

yea i geuss i wasnt thinking, ive been looking around and found that out

DickyT 04.30.2008 12:38 PM

The kit just showed up! I am at work and can not start the building, but looking through the parts trees this is quite the little buggy! It will need some sanding to smooth edges where I cut parts from the trees and the instructions are mostly in japanese, but I can live with that. it has very detailed pictures and exploded views.

Some of the translations for the little english it has are funny. "Make sure you are looking at the round side of the ball" lol

big greg 04.30.2008 04:21 PM

lol thats funny, my losi 8 is on the way cant wait to get it here!

BrianG 04.30.2008 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DickyT (Post 167859)
Some of the translations for the little english it has are funny. "Make sure you are looking at the round side of the ball" lol

Lol, I was taking a drink when I read that and almost spewed it out! I never new balls had sides, much less non-round ones...

ClodMaxx 04.30.2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 167917)
Lol, I was taking a drink when I read that and almost spewed it out! I never new balls had sides, much less non-round ones...

ok, that drink of water i was just taking? yeah. when i just read your post, i about spewed it all over my computer screen at work. :yipi:

DickyT 05.01.2008 12:51 AM

The kit is very nice quality. lot's of sanding to smooth out the areas from being cut from parts trees, but that was to be expected.

What came today:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...x5sp/zx5_1.jpg

The red box unpacked:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...x5sp/zx5_2.jpg

and the progress made this evening:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...zx5_4front.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...zx5_5front.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...p/zx5_rear.jpg

I have come to the realization that I HATE building ball diffs. The thrust bearings were troublesome to put it nicely ;)

DickyT 05.02.2008 01:57 AM

Made a bit more progress on the build this evening.

Top:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17.../build-top.jpg

Bottom:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...ild-bottom.jpg

Front:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...uild-front.jpg

Rear:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...build-rear.jpg

Left:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...build-left.jpg

Right:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...uild-right.jpg

I should be able to give it it's first test an tune on Saturday afternoon. all that is left is painting the body, gluing the tires, and assembling the shocks.

big greg 05.02.2008 02:11 AM

sweet what powerplant ya got?

DickyT 05.02.2008 06:56 AM

mm5700 for now.

DickyT 05.02.2008 08:33 PM

waiting for the paint on the body to dry, but took it for a body off run on 2s. This thing is fast! And the tires are not holding up well....

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...x5sp/done1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...x5sp/done3.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...x5sp/done2.jpg

DrKnow65 05.02.2008 09:34 PM

I have the Academy SBV2-Pro, very similar vehicle. It handles like nothing else, but man, the way they fly be careful where you run it :) I had a lady in a toyota prius pull up behind me jus outside my periferal vision. I was making a speed run and by the time I saw the car it was too late, I stuffed it under the back tire so hard she had to back up before I could get the RC free! Hahaha she said it was like some kind of terrorist attack "it just came flying out of no where!"

P.S. I was having problems with the diffs going out, I fixed it with Acer Cermic Nitrile balls and associated diff lube. They take a few runs to seat in, at first they slip a bit because they are so hard, but now they are bulletproof.

DickyT 05.02.2008 10:00 PM

great info thanks.I used AE diff lube, it's what i had on hand. I plan on doing a full acre ket for it after it starts blowing bearings.

DickyT 05.03.2008 05:29 PM

All done!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...sp/alldone.jpg

big greg 05.03.2008 06:07 PM

sweet you take that to the track yet?

DickyT 05.03.2008 06:09 PM

nope. I'm a basher type, and the local tracks practice day is Wednesday, I work. Only race day on Sat and it is a nitro track. I took it to a big dirt field today, will have some video footage up soon. nothing special just slinging a little dirt.

big greg 05.03.2008 06:12 PM

yea buggies are fun at the track but other than that i dont think i would like bashing with them, just me tho, i just do laps at the track nothing competitive, fun little buggers

DrKnow65 05.03.2008 09:43 PM

About time for tires already huh?

DickyT 05.03.2008 10:51 PM

yeah the tires did not last long. it is a fun little toy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jH3cPaaiJw4

rootar 05.03.2008 11:26 PM

at the track today i helped get a guys zx-5 going, the mamba he had in it puffed after only 2 days, so we put a vxl system he had handy in there, and got it going on a 2s orion 3200 sport lipo, and i was really surprised at how smooth it was, seemed alto better than the mamba did before it cooked, also whats so different about the geometry between the rtr and the kit, of course the kit has the upgrades everywhere but there were 3 kids runing the zx5 rtrs out there and they ran the crap out of them all day long and didnt anyof them break a single part, i was looking into getting my gf one to learn to race with it seems like a good class for her to start with since 3 local kids at the track just started running them too.....

DickyT 05.03.2008 11:43 PM

the difference are:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/13250

This is a rear middle conversion set for the Kyosho Lazer ZX-5. This set narrows the rear of the car slightly, and lengthens the wheel base of the car to make the car turn better, and at the same time make it more stable.

The set includes new rear lower suspension arms that are shorter than the ones included in the kit as well as a set of front arms that are the same as the original kit arms, new rear uprights (same rear uprights that are used on the RB5) with low height ball studs, new rear swing shafts to match the shorter suspension arms, new front shock shafts that are 2mm longer, a set of rear shock shafts that are the same as the ones that came with the kit, and new improved shock cartridges front and rear including e-clips, and o-rings (same shock cartridges that are used on the RB5).


anda conversion kit to make the rtr an SP:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/20007

* Shock Plastic Parts Sets (2) KYOW5194-01
* Steering Knuckles (2) KYOLA254
* 7 Degree Hub Carriers (2) KYOLA254
* 10 Degree Hub Carriers (2) KYOLA254
* Front Dish Wheels (2) KYOW5201W
* Rear Hub Carriers (2) KYOLA252
* Lower Suspension Arms (4) KYOLA255 x 2
* Front Swing Shafts (2) KYOLA257
* Rear Swing Shafts (2) KYOLA258
* Shock Cap Nuts (4) KYOW5189-01BL
* Steering Knuckle Spacers (4) KYOLA256
* Blue Aluminum Collars (2) KYOW0144
* 4.8mm Ball Studs (2) KYOUM128


the SP has different front wheels too, I'm not sure of the difference though. i'm running HB Cyclone D4 wheels though.

DickyT 05.05.2008 09:42 PM

I hit a stump hidden in the grass at about 45 yesterday. broke the rear tower mount and arm holder.

I ordered PN Racing 7075 tower mounts for front and rear, 3 degree rear arm holder, and inside front and rear arm holders.

I have a feeling knuckles and front castor blocks will be next to need the 7075 treatment.

This thing needs to be BL proofed. or me proofed :D


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