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My son drives a supermaxx with plettenberg maxximum. He has an UE suspension with 8mm drive shafts.

Now first he was using RPM monster clawz with offset. After a few runs one rim on the rear was broken.

So I have mount him to RPM titans without offset. After a day on the road he had a similar problem, the hole of one rim had been rounded.

So now I am thinking of alu wheels, some friends told me I should purchase Dace 23mm hex adapters and use 40 series wheels.

Please, could you tell me somebody, what are the advantage of 40 series. Of course they look nice, but do they only have advantages and no disadvantages?

What are the advantages and disadvantages of alu rims?

I am seeking for a durable solution and my son wants to use his truck anywhere, so on the street, on the tennis court and also in the gravel pit.

Thank you very much for your help.

Gusit

Are you breaking the rim itself, as in cracking? Or is the hex stripping? If the later the 23mm dace adapter helps to resolve this issue. In addition to the 40 series 23mm wheels proline has recently made the 23mm wheels in the standar size velocity series, currently in a 1/2" offset and standard max offset. Depending on your tire wheel combo, the 40 series will offer greater ground clearence, contact patch, trac width, and more weight than the standard. The standard velo's are not bling bling where as some of the 40's are.Many love the RPM wheels, the material used though appears to be somewhat soft / flexible, they do take a beating, but the smaller hexes tend to deform or strip when used with high torque motors. I have never owned aluminum wheels. My concern however would be weight. Love the Bling Bling though of the ones that UE/Supermaxx offers. Mike ought to be able to hook you up with some if you choose.

Hi Papa

Thank you for your answer. So one of the monster clawz cracked. One of the titans the hex was striping.

Some people said, the reason for this are the UE metal hex. With the stock plastics, this may not be a problem.

However, my son has this UE stuff on it.

So if I understand you correctly is the only disadvantage of the 40 series, the greater weight? All other things are better, compared to the wheels?

Is the total size of the wheels (40 series) different to the standard wheels (different gearing)?

Thank you for your help.

Gusti

Granted the UE 8mm drive shaft and hex are very strong. Many people will say that when making one component stronger you move breaking points to other weaker components. This is true to a point. In this case, the strength is in the driveshaft cvd, and axle. The Hex itself is the same size and steel. The 23mm adapter spreads the forces over a greater area there by reducing the stress on wheel. I have not heard of anybody stripping 23mm hexes. However now the tire /wheel glue area is now in jeapordy. So keep up on the glue job. And so on, and so on.....

The 40 series is wider, thus reducing turning/ steering and may not suit your needs. The taller tire may require different gearing. Wich is better is a matter of personal preference, and your individual needs, or wants as the case may be.

It sounds like you are questioning the wisdom of the UE cvd. I have them on my own truck and would not have it any other way.:Love: Go for the Dace 23mm Adapter, and pick a wheel that suits your needs.

The 23 mm hex is what you need. I had same problem with stock plastic and metal hex. I have had no problem since went to the 23mm. The 40 mm is a little heavier. Depends more on the tire you choose. I have not noticed any difference in turning. I think the 40 series handle a lot better because of shorter side wall on some tires. A good glue job well hold well. Have not reglued a couple sets of tires. Hope this helps you out.
What kind of tires are you running or want to run? If weight is not an issue the bead locks work real well. Just add weight. The aluminum rims are heavier than plastic and cost alot more. Paid 170 for the 4 i have.:eek:

I normally glue the hex into the rim, it even worked with the stock savage rimms on my bigmaxximum. I ordered a set of 23 mm wheels as well, because i didn't liked the hexes being stocked to the wheels, and in addition i ordered 40 series cheyennes (i love 40 series, because of their perfect handling) and i got a few sets of the proline dish, normall size offset. With 23 mm you can't go wrong for sure..

Thank you very much for your information.

Ok, so I will take the dace adapters for sure. Mike got it in his shop. So my son drives with his maxx on the street, on the socker field, on the tennis court and some times in the gravel pit.

He likes very much chrom rims. So what rims and tires you would recommend me. Currently he is driving a maxx masher and sometimes Proline road rage. Mostly he is using the maxx masher, because the road rage you can use only on the street.

If I would buy him a 40 series tire, it should be a tire for all terrains.

Thank you for your help.

Gusti

Well, how about the 40 series mashers!

Ja Gusti, get 40 Mashers on Mambo rims! (mambos seem tougher than Velo6 chromes)

If your son wouldn't be a fan of chrome, I would suggest dishies. But if you want chrome, get the Mambos.


Edit: Oh, my bad! Mambos are non-23 :o How about those Cheyennes, then!?

Dafni, Mike

Thank you very much. I was not aware, that Masher is also available in 40 Series.

How ever, does somebody ever used on of these two wheels?
http://www.pro-lineracing.com/prolin...2680/2680.html
http://www.pro-lineracing.com/prolin...2679/2679.html

Ok without glue sounds interesting. The question ist, are they really durable? Or do I have only some screws more to lose? On the oter side, I don't need to change the tires every day?

What is your opinion?

Thank you for your help.

Gusti

Big Joe's might be a good all around tire, aggressive tread for offroad and low sidewall profile for less flex onroad. The Moab is the biggest tire they offer and it looks scale. Those Commando Beadlock wheels look awsome, a bit heavier than brother Cheyenne.

Do not forget about foams....proline tires come with some stock, but they will not last the life of the tire. I like Racers Edge multi-stage foams. The firmer foam will help the tire hold its shape, and improve handling.

On the commando. I have not lost a screw yet. The only suggestion is to drill the hole all way through the rim where screws go. They are a little heavier but not as much as you may think. For all around traction i have been running the dirt hawg. The big joes are excellent as well to. The dirt hawg has a little less tire roll for high speed that i go. They even give you extra screws on the cammando. Hope this helps you in your decision.

If you really don't like the glue hassle, I would go for the Comando Bead-locks. Coolhandcountry sais they are good. As for the rubbers, the Mashers would get my vote. But show the Mashers, Big Joes and Dirt Hawg to your son, and let him decide.
Street use will wear any tire down, especially on our gnarly swiss asphalt ;)

Dafni

Thanks for your posting. So I will see what Pictures I get from Mike. How ever, with this glue job you are right. But screws in plastic I don't know about the durability.

Cheers Gusti

As long as you drill the hole threw. It works real well. If you don't the chrome flakes off and jams up in the bottom of screw hole. A good glue job hold nice to. If you buy aluminum rims. Need to get a primer on the bead of rim. It will help alot. Good luck on RC.

Agree, if you don't want to change the rubbers anyway, a small drop of C/A glue will take care of those screws (I imagine :) )

You're welcome Gusti.

The Cheyenne wheels are the ones I described to you on the phone, Gusti. These are the wheels I modify to make then narrower, which make the 40 series Bowtie similar in size to the standard bowtie when mounted, with a lower sidewall. These are the ones I was suggesting for your son, as he seems to like the Chrome look(I like these wheels myself).

@mike, you got my cheyennes on time as well?

and hava you got pics of those tires when modified Mike?

On the 4o series. You can mount a set of traxxas 3.8 size tires to them. Just to let you know. Not sure if any one else has done it.

It's tight isnt it?

No not really. Not on the tires i did. The tires are light to. I use them to shed some weight on truck. I wish i had duct taped them though.

coolhand- do you have any pics of your 40 series wheel with a 3.8 tire?

Sure do. I had to take it but that ok.

Yes, Serum, I did get your wheels. I am working on some pictures of the modified wheels and tires(need batteries for the camera). I will post them when I get them done.

It looks like the wheels might be a bit too wide for the tires but the smaller tires keep the weight down. Not bad at all though.

If you run the wider rim. It pulls the bead from the tire some. The up side to this is that the tire does not slide from side to side. It handles fantastic. They are the best handleing tire i have. They have like zero roll cause they are pulled apart. Hard on the glue though. :D

Guys

Today I got the wheels from Dafni, he did a fantastic glue job for me. Thank you Dafni.

No I have mounted the dace on the wheels, this works pefectly. Than I tried to mount the complete wheels on the truck. This is impossible.

The reason is very simple. I am using the 8mm UE CVD's. So the CVD has a 5mm winding with a 10mm screw nut. So the diameter outside of a 10mm wrench is 14.2 mm, but the diameter of the hole from the dace adapter is 12.8mm. For this reason I can't tighten the nut.

Guys I had so much misfortune with this supermaxx, this is unbelievable. Does somebody of you have an idea how I can solve this problem.

I went to a special screw shop and was asking for a 5mm winding nut with 9mm outside diameter. But this is not available, because the dealer told me such a nut will not hold.

Thank you for your support.

My understanding is that this is a common dilema. I think you are saying that there is not enough space to get a socket wrench on the nut? If so the remedy is to grind away enough material from a dedicated socket, to permit space.

I have one thing to say. Grinder.
I took a ten mm socket to a grinder and it fits great. I have not broke the socket either. I hope this helps. I run the dace adapter with 8mm ue cvds.

I use this to tighten the nuts;

http://static.marktplaza.nl/images/1...-22-749174.jpg

Hi Coolhandcountry

Thank you for your help.

Gusti

It is not a problem gusti. You are welcome. I help any time I can. Where you get that from serum?

Hi Coolhandcountry

The idea came from a guy called standard_63. Mike offered me to make such a nut. However, it takes several days to got it here in Switzerland.

For this reason I made it this morning myself. I made 2 of them, so then I have a reserve.

I wish you a nice day.

Gusti

I am sorry gusti. I was asking serum. Where he got his wrech from. Same Idea I had just better equipment. I guess I should make my self clear. I get confused sometime. :C: Have a great day.