mbx5t vs a baja 5b?
 

I am building a mbx5t and had a set-up of racing, with the Neu 1515 1y, 4s pack and the MM. My LHS closed down there track ,and the closest track to me is about 80 miles away. So racing is out of my head right now.
Now How would it be possible for this BL mugen beat a baja? The guy has put a 5.5 HP engine in it, and this other stuff he wont tell me..My thought is it might to 60, if not higher? i have no clue. I saw on RCM that there is a flightpower 6s pack for $300
Would the 1515 1y on 6s work? I want this thing to hit 70+ if possible. I would like the highest quality batteries. I know NEU and castle creations is high quality already, should i go with polyquest or flightpower? the polyquest is 20C constent and 30C max, the flightpower is around 30C constant and 50C max. Would this mean more power? We are going to be drag racing, and it will be long so i need speed and i also need it so this is a reliable system. Also could i tame the 6s power? On the speed control could i set it up so it acts like its on 4s or is that out of the question? I wont want it controlable but i would like pure speed. What do you guys think?

Well the IY motor is 2200KV, so x by 22.2v = 48840rpm which is fine for Neu (60 000rpm max) but don't know how long the MM will last on 6S. May also have to install a wheelie bar :intello:

What do you mean you dont know how long the MM will last? Will i need a UBec? How could i make this not wheelie?...as much?

Well the MM is rated at 6-12 NiCad/NiMH or2-3s LiPo so you are doubling it's limit. You will need to run a BEC, aren't you using a BEC with the 4S?
A Battery Eliminator Circuit is a little device that eliminates the need for a receiver and servo battery pack. It draws higher voltage from the motor batteries and drops it to a voltage level that is suitable for your receiver and servos. This is required in applications which draw high power for multiple servos or use more than 3S motor packs, as most ESCs with linear BECs are not designed for these applications.

a 6s lipo on NEU 1515 1y will be too much for then mamba max you will need the Monster MM for the job, it will go 65 mph on 6 s lipo and you will beat that Baja on acceleration without a sweat:yes:

Gas engines are rally lugish off the line so you have one really good head start

I meant the monster max as the MM, didnt realize i was wrong with abbreviations. i was thinking of putting a BEC on the monster max due to the internal BEC frying? Something that i wont have to worry about. I would want it as durable as possible. I can get 65 mph out of a trug?

Funny thing, My monster max has arrived! i thought it would take awhile but it took 2 weeks from the time of ordering from Impaktrc RC. How long do you think it would take if i ordered a tekno edition NEU 1515 1y from imparkt rc? It says there not guaranteed in stock

I do like their version of the NEUs but it does bother me that they solder on 4mm plugs...at least they could have went with 5.5s

That bothers me too, couldnt i cut them off and put on 6mm's?

becareful with the plugs you dont want to shorten the leads they are an extension of the motor winds. I would remove the shrink tubing and desolder the plugs...if they dont want to put on larger connectors it would be better to leave them bare

Ummm :whistle:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vg3KOO6v1po


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q04Rj9_J_18

a baja with a nice gas engine is really quick and fast... there are some videos on Youtube of this... but a brushless buggy is still fully capable of beating the Baja, as long as you have the traction..

Yup....I plan to line up against a few gas RC's soon. Video will be taken :). We'll see how the XTM MMT will handle the big scale boys.

A fully decked out 5B up against a BL & Lipo 1/10 2wd buggy, surprised on how big of a crowd it pulled

a 1200 $ ++ setup vs 500 $ setup. The Baja isn't twice faster :|

But the Baja is more than twice bigger...and thats what you are paying for with the Baja, its size. Size comes with a price, and so does speed, so size and speed is just tons of money...

Its not surprising the Baja beat a 1/10 2wd Buggy. It was probably just running 2S Lipo and a sensored BL system (which is mild in comparison to the sensorless systems most of the members here run). I'd easily put my G2R or CRT .5 up against that 5B...I'd destroy it with either one no problem.

A Neu on 6S would surely destroy any 5B if you ask me.

Yeah, and on a local 1/8 track those Bajas look real slow, compared to 1/8 Buggies. With my BL truggie I'd pass them in every corner. :yes: They don't stand a chance against my "mild" 4S setup... but that's on a track where top-end does not really matter much... by the time their clutches bite, the BL is already entering the next corner.

I don't know about fully decked out though, but some of those guys seem to take their Bajas pretty serious. For me, on that track, they are more like moving obstacles :na:

Hehe, just playing... whatever floats your boat, eh?

wow what a comparison. a 2wd 6th scale gas buggy versus a 4wd 8th scale bl truggy. what information are we supposed to get out of that?

rhylsadar

Well, maybe the same as out of the 5B vs 1/10 drag comp?? :lol:

And hey, isn't the 5B vs 1/8 truck comparison exactly what this thread was about?? At least it says so in the title.... :neutral:

nevermind

yeah i was actually refering to the drag comp.
and yes it totally on topic. but still what new information can we expect?
just curious.

rhyls

From me? Just as I said, I only know the 5B vs 1/8 BL thing on the track, and there it was pretty obvious (to say the least)

Just thought I'd throw in what I have seen from 5Bs vs 1/8 BLs, that's all.

Cheers

Thanks for the replys, your on topic dont worry. the guy is getting a ported 27 kit that i doubt he will get any more then 3HP to the ground (clutch slippage, spool up time, tune, gas mixture ect.) and now i defiantly know i will win. Im going to buy FlightPower batteries, 1 4s , 5s and a 6s all 5000mah. What run time do you think i could get out of this? And is this a good choice to get 1 of each pack? (money is not an issue, i am getting a nice, fat settlement soon)

those 3 packs will be quite an investment I am thinking about $800

Yeah, I read my monster max manual (all of it) and there is no adjustment for any LIPO higher then 4s, will i be able to have a low voltage cutoff for a 6s? What would be a good gearing range for the 4s-6s?