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Fast5sRevo88 05.30.2008 01:21 PM

FDM Hpi E-Baja 5b
 
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Would u pay $2835.00 for this E-Baja with Lehner 8hp motor, 150amp 4-10S Brushless Speed Control, 2 6S 6000Mah 30c Lipos, and 50mph.

Mozzy 05.30.2008 01:24 PM

No way!!!

I'm sure shopping around could get things alot cheaper.

Arct1k 05.30.2008 01:37 PM

This is a niche market - There are no other "shops" that I'm aware of doing pre-converted cars. If you add up the cost of donor car, motor, esc and bats - I'm sure it is getting above 2k.

Chris is running a business I'm sure he doesn't expect to sell that many and has to recover his time and investment. This is targetted at a few people with money who want a pre-done car.

My analogy - some people buy an old car and spend hours rebuilding it, some buy an old car and send it to a shop to renovate, some buy the once it is clean, some buy a modern replica. There are always horses for courses - variety and choices are the spice of life (eh linc)

Best of luck IMO

JERRY2KONE 05.30.2008 01:48 PM

Nice
 
Come on we all knew that a baja 5B would be converted sooner or later. That thing is pretty sweet needless to say, but the price reflects not only the material used but obviously their time as well. Lets be real here most of us would love to have it, but not at that price, because a lot of us could just build it on our own for less. Just a guess, but the buggy runs about $1000. The batteries are approx $400. motor $400. ESC like $500 and we will give them $500 for misc build materials, which adds up to about $2800 if we were to purchase and build this project. They probably got a few breaks on their purchases as a friendly slide, and Yea you could nickle and dime some of the parts, but that is a very real figure.

So is the purchase of this thing worth it? I guess it depends on how bad you want the E-Baja 5B(rare), and how limited your talent and resouces are. I would love to have that puppy in my toy collection, but I have enough projects going on already and that is more money then I am willing to spend at the monent. It will be a nice toy for someone out there. So if you have the money and your game for playing with a $3000 toy then go for it. I know that two of my SuperMaxx trucks have about that much in them already. So why not????

rootar 05.30.2008 01:52 PM

for 3gs you build could 3 very nice setups, instead of jsut having one larger not as capable one.......

JERRY2KONE 05.30.2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rootar (Post 177793)
for 3gs you build could 3 very nice setups, instead of jsut having one larger not as capable one.......

So what makes you think that it is not capable? Plus this is another E conversion which means no fuel to mess with, no plugs to foul, no tuning. Just plug and play. You can mess with the gearing and maybe get a little bit more speed or whatever you want.

lydiasdad 05.30.2008 02:12 PM

No way, I like mine much better. A fraction of the price.:lol:

JERRY2KONE 05.30.2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lydiasdad (Post 177799)
No way, I like mine much better. A fraction of the price.:lol:

MINE WHAT???

Jeremy1976 05.30.2008 02:41 PM

No, I love the fact that mine is a 2 stroker!!!! It would just be way too weird on a big 5th scale to have no engine sound..... Plus I have a ESP 27.2 Zenoah.

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...t=100_2238.flv

TexasSP 05.30.2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lydiasdad (Post 177799)
No way, I like mine much better. A fraction of the price.:lol:

I am with you! A fraction of the price, just as functional, with the body on it looks about the same.

Chris is on crack. I am not saying he doesn't have the money invested, but seriously, who is gonna pay that much for it. My guess, slim to none.

zeropointbug 05.30.2008 03:23 PM

I was going to say that the batteries would not be able to supply the power to that motor... but a quick calc later shows that it would. Seems to add up as far as what components he used, let's just hope he never cheated somewhere crucial.

The thing that really gets FD, is his attitude... I had a bad experience with him.

lincpimp 05.30.2008 05:22 PM

Not sure about his esc choice...

Plus those are not the best lipos...

Also, how good is his motor mount?

rootar 05.30.2008 05:31 PM

i guess i didnt really word it right, ive seen a baja 5b run and they are huge, not the nimblest buggy either, kinda clunkly to jump, and they dont like being cartwheeled (broken front arm when i was watching) the owner siad him self just the shear size and sound of it was really what made it fun. in his opinion and from what i watched 1/8th scales are much tougher and handle better plus there 4wd. i dunno i wouldnt mind getting a nitro one if i had an extra grand laying around but i dont think id ever fork over enough to make a brushless one.

Jeremy1976 05.30.2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rootar (Post 177833)
i guess i didnt really word it right, ive seen a baja 5b run and they are huge, not the nimblest buggy either, kinda clunkly to jump, and they dont like being cartwheeled (broken front arm when i was watching) the owner siad him self just the shear size and sound of it was really what made it fun. in his opinion and from what i watched 1/8th scales are much tougher and handle better plus there 4wd. i dunno i wouldnt mind getting a nitro one if i had an extra grand laying around but i dont think id ever fork over enough to make a brushless one.

I disagree on the jumping part. And in my opinion they are very durable right out of the box!! I do not baby mine at all. You really cannot compare the 1/5th scales with the 1/8th scales. Two totally different classes.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6/100_2355.jpg

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TexasSP 05.30.2008 05:45 PM

Looking at the pictures more after reading linc's post, the workmanship just isn't any where near justifying that price. The ESC is exposed to whatever can come at it, the motor connectors should be heat-shrink to protect from elements. It looks too much like a cheap hack job.

Also, on that motor at 22.2 volts it has the ability to pull over 300 amps, on a 150 amp controller, and 180 amp batteries? Wouldn't he had been better off going 12s, or am I missing something here?

It also seems to me this could have been done with a neu 1527 motor as well and if not then a 2200 series would surely be enough, I mean they toss some pretty stinking big and heavy aerobatic planes around so why not and at 300 bucks cheaper than the lehner.

Fast5sRevo88 05.30.2008 05:52 PM

Your camera man sure is good Jeremy, he/she has a future in hollywood:lol:.

TexasSP 05.30.2008 05:56 PM

^^^^^^What he said, those are some bad@$$ shots!

Jeremy1976 05.30.2008 06:08 PM

Thanks guys! I posted them on my forum I am admin at and some actually thought they were photoshopped. But they are not. That area we run in is Disneyland for Baja's. My wifes family owns the entire gravel pit. It is really impressive when you are actually down it with 60 foot high gravel piles and flying off the top of them. Pictures do no justice to this place. Sorry for the hijack by the way guys.... Have a good weekend!
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6/100_2288.jpg

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jnev 05.30.2008 06:18 PM

That looks like quite an amazing bashing spot to drive at!! :yes: I think that price for the FD baja is way over the top for it though. The craftsmanship is not that great, and it uses poor quality batteries and a not very known ESC...

As cool, as the baja would be as an electric, if I got one, it would stay gas for most of its life. Remember, it is not nitro so it does not need tuning, and there is very little upkeep to go with it. I think something that big would be awesome to bash. I also like the sound, and I have p[laces to run it, so it would add perfectly to my current fleet of rc's. :yes:

What's_nitro? 05.30.2008 08:06 PM

I think 6s is a little low for that buggy. Definitely should have used a 12s capable controller. OR just sell it with two 5s packs since the controller can handle 10s. Motor wind may need to be changed but w/e. Honestly, 50 mph is too slow for even a 1/4 scale buggy with 8HP in it!

tc3_racer_001 05.30.2008 08:25 PM

saw this buggy about 5 days ago, when searching for neu motors... and honestly, i didnt think that this buggy was suited to electric, esp lipos... if i ever got one, it would be through mud and gravel and sand and all those places smaller cars dont like going... and its cheaper than most brushless conversions... the reason im prolly not going to get one is the fact that they weigh almost 10kg and if that hit you it would do some serious damage, and the space required is not available in a small backyard in suburbia!

but a nice idea, 14s a123 would be awesome, the amps could be provided i think with a 2p setup and wouldnt really matter about the weight.

thats what i recon anyway. and 50mph seems too fast.

Desmo 05.31.2008 03:31 PM

leave it gas, those motors run allot longer and are way easier to maintain than a small 2 stroke. You could buy 2 1/2 5b's for the price of the brushless version.

DRIFT_BUGGY 05.31.2008 07:02 PM

The 5B retails for $899 with all the gas parts, there is no way this is worth more than $2000+ that price considering no gas parts

MetalMan 05.31.2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 178185)
The 5B retails for $899 with all the gas parts, there is no way this is worth more than $2000+ that price considering no gas parts

The SS maybe? Street price for the 5B RTR varies from $900-1000 typically.

lydiasdad 06.02.2008 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 177801)
MINE WHAT???

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...=electric+baja

cdis 06.03.2008 08:42 AM

I have a Baja SS and there's no way really that I would even consider making it electric. Mine runs through mud, dirt, puddles and trees lol; all places where I'd be scared to put almost $3k worth of electric stuff near, at least not without some industrial strength waterproofing. Plus it sounds awesome, especially with a decent exhaust.

I don't really see how it can compare:

On a full tank of gas I get between 30-45 min of run time, depending on how hard I am on the throttle. I doubt those batts would be able to provide more than 20 min. Even then, you gotta recharge for an hour. You could spend an extra $400 on a second set of batts, but then you'd be through them also before the first set was done charging. You'd also need some pretty serious power supply goodness to charge em in the field.

When I run out of fuel, I just put more in and off I go again :D. No need to wait for stuff to cool down, or for batts to charge. Usually if I have to wait longer, its because I broke something :D

As for durability, its 6 one way and half a dozen the other. My Hyper ST is only around 7kg. The Baja is close to 14kg... Nuff said lol. I have hit trees, poles, done huge jumps and had crazy crazy crazy cartwheels, and so far the only thing I've broken is the plastic spur gear a few times. They're fine out of the box.


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