Nikon D60 or D80?
 

Sup Guys?

What Camera do you think is the BEST out of those two? The Nikon D60 or the Nikon D80?

Nikon D80

Nikon D60

What so you guys think?

how would you rate your camera expierence and the application of the camera...my guess is that since you are asking our opinion is that you are not too sure yourself if you must stay with Nikon I would go with the 60 model ...it seems like the 80 has a few more bells and whistles you dont need. I am a Canon man myself and I have a 10mega Digital Rebel that I am very happy with, and over 1/2 the stuff I dont use...and I dont have to buy the Canon lenses Quantum makes compatable lenses for about 1/2 the price

I was disappointed in Nikon when I started having trouble with the battery door on my 990 (cost almost a grand when I bought it). The little housing the batt door finger went into broke off and after repairing it (CA) a few times, it was no good. They basically told me it was time for a new camera, they wouldn't help.

After many, many years as a Nikon owner, I bought a Canon. Been very happy with it too.

if I spent a grand on a camera and I was told I need a new one due to the battery door I would have made something work even if it ment using a strip of duct tape...did you buy it at a camera store? or was it online

The D300 if you can afford it with a nice DX VR lens.

Assuming you are here in the states make sure that no matter what you get you get it with the US warranty and not the grey market products with international warranties - it's not worth the 50 dollars of savings.

This is one of my favorite sites for digital camera reviews:

www.dpreview.com

Also for purchases: www.adorama.com or www.bhphotovideo.com They are two huge stores out of NYC that have been around forever.

I've had my eyes on the D80 for a while. It seems like what you get over the D60 is worth paying the extra for, at least considering what I want to use it for.

If you're going for action shots then the D80 is a must. It's all about responsiveness, and the D80 kills the D60 on that front.

If you're just doing artsy still shots, then the camera doesn't matter as much as the lense, because once you get into the D-SLR territory, the most important features for still photography are usually included.

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/home.aspx

Ok, Thanks. Seems like the D80 is good for me.

Seems they had 2 design probs with that one - uses 4 AAs and they made it such that there was a lot of pressure on the door I guess to insure good contact. The other was the placement of the shutter is such that any rubber band wrap or any other kind to secure batt door will run over the shutter and prevent its operation (keeps it tripped).

Made an external batt pack and hard wired it into camera body and velcroed the pac to the other side of the camera. Worked, but balance and grip was odd, made it harder to use and it looked like heck. Just needed a new body. Very poor design, Had the same thing happen to my wife's Nikon too, another batt door prob. The location of the shutter was moved on the her Nikon and its is still working with three hvy rubber bands across the batt compartment. Fell out of favor to a pink Kodak however.....

Canon's design uses a purpose built batt and a little internal catch to hold it, there is no pressure on the door and the catch the way its used has little pressure either. My last camera store camera was a Nikon FE SLR, everything since has been online from a store in NY.

What package do you think is better?

http://photodynasty.com/catalog/prod...ducts_id=6689&

http://photodynasty.com/catalog/prod...d70db9ab2bee70

Don't go there - There is no physcial adress for that store - If you see a really cheap deal for a bunch of shops in brooklyn they are not worth it. A bunch of con shops...

if this is your first expensive camera (digital SLR) you might want to buy from a camera store, you will have more resources and piece of mind untill you have more expierence ...my wife bought my Digital rebel XTI from Ritz

Don't buy from those links. It is a scam. You will get a phone call a few days later with someone trying to strongarm you into buying tons of accessories and they will tell you the camera is not in stock when you don't buy them. Either that or you will get not what you ordered and trying to return it will be a truely painful experience if you can.

Pay the extra few hundred and buy from a reputable dealer. And also - ALWAYS BUY WITH USA WARRANTY - I can not stress this enough.

The two I mentioned above are reputable, also consider J&R Music World as well.

Here is the one you linked to with the 18-135mm lens.
http://www.adorama.com/INKD80K2.html

Also - keep in mind that when you are buying a digital-SLR camera, you are still buying a camera lens whose focal length is rated in regards to a 35mm film camera, so there is some conversion to be done. That dpreview.com site I gave you a link to usually provides the information that will look something like this (1.5x FOV crop). What this means is that a DX sensor is only 24mm compared with a full (or FX) sensor or 35mm film slide which is 35 mm wide, so when the image comes through the lens the digital sensor is only seeing 66% of what a full 35mm sensor would see.

In order to get the DX relative focal range of the lens or zoom lens you need to multiply the focal length by the FOV crop - which in the case of most SLR cameras is 1.5x (although some Canons are 1.6). In standard 35mm film photography a 50mm lens was considered the standard for a 1:1 picture. Lower was wider angle and higher was narrower angle (ie: zoom).

For the 18-135mm zoom lens, the DX equivalent you would have would be 18x1.5 - 135x1.5 = [27 - 202.5mm]

The 28 - 200mm zoom lens would a DX equiv. of 42 - 300mm. You actually would not be too happy with this as a primary lens because you would not be able to zoom out much past the 1:1 50mm length.

I would recommend the 18-135 as a very good all around lens to start off with.

Why? What will happen if I order from there?

Do you read the longer replies or do you want to get burnt for $500 before you learn your lesson?:neutral:

Don't buy from those links. It is a scam. You will get a phone call a few days later with someone trying to strongarm you into buying tons of accessories and they will tell you the camera is not in stock when you don't buy them. Either that or you will get not what you ordered and trying to return it will be a truely painful experience if you can.

If a camera and lens cost $900-$1000 everywhere else and you see it somewhere for $500 doesn't a red flag go off somewhere?

FYI - I'm not trying to be a d**k either to you, just trying to prevent you from losing your money. Please see this link:

http://thoughts-of-dave.blogspot.com...eviews-on.html

They also trade under a bunch of other names too - Avoid anything based in Brooklyn...

Avoid anything based in Brooklyn...now thats a good rule to live by.....lol

Yes - I grew up in Brooklyn for 30 years - I would avoid me too.......:lol:

Except for L&B Spumoni Gardens in Sheepshead Bay - best Sicilian slice you'll have in your life..........

.......slight digression from thread.

Aight, Thanks alot guys! I am NOT ordering from there.

Is http://www.cameraaddict.com/viewproduct.aspx?id=3616673 that place good?

If not can you guys find me a Nikon D80 w/ 18-55mm Lens (Not VR) the cheapest possible?

I would say no:
http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...com-c8671.html

Best bet to checking out a company is to do a google search with name of the company and word scam: (ie: cameraaddict scam)

I would trust the three places I mentioned earlier in this thread as they are where I bought my D300 and lens from. Adorama and B&H Photo are New York institutions for professional photographers - you may even be able to find a used D80 body on their website at a good price and then pick up the lens separately.

No there Mailing Address IS
325 E. 89th Street
Brooklyn, N.Y. 11236


I WAS SERIOUS ABOUT AVOIDING BROOKLYN - it is all the same con setup

Ok. Adorama has the lowest price but is still high. For a Digital SLR beiginner do you think the Nikon D60 is ok for me? From moving up from a Point and Shoot? Or should I get the D80 from the start?

Before I say anything - no racial slurring intended.

These are all Hessidic (sp?) Jewish shops in a very Orthodox section of Brooklyn. Very old school and shaddy businesses.

When I was growing up in Bklyn my dad and I went out there when I was first getting into photography and I think we were actually had once (I was pretty young at the time) before we figured out the bait 'n' switch they had going on with their newspaper ads.

I would say go with the nicer body and a more simple (ie: less zoom range)lens to start with. Later on you can always upgrade to a nicer lens (ie: larger zoom range or a "Prime" lens - very high quality fixed lens capable of a lower f-stop at the popular focal lengths of 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 100mm, 200mm, etc) as time goes on.

Check out dpreviews forum:
Nikon D80/D70/D60/D50/D40 Forum
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1034

There's a few threads in there where people make comparisons of the D40, D60 and D80. Usually these people are experienced amaturs or professionals (some have links to their portfolios that are beyond impressive - and you will see as you browse that not all of the most impressive shots are made with the best camera on the market). Take a few nights and read through these threads - just like you would here to figure out the best battery, esc, or motor for a project. Become an educated consumer and then you will be able to make the best decision for yourself - not us making a decision for you - figure out what features are important to you, what features you think sounds interesting, and what features you would never use. This way you buy a camera that you will grow into and be more experimental with as you learn what it can do - and what it can do that a point-n-shoot could never do.

Also - remember you are moving from point and shoot to SLR - so there are no live previews anymore. You have to look through the viewfinder and frame your shot.

Almost all of these cameras have fully automatic modes to start off with so you can take pictures with ease, but as you learn each feature you will be able to figure out how to say - take a picture and intentionally blur the foreground or background of the shot.

Ok, I am going to TRY and get the Nikon D80 with 18-55mm VR Lens. This is for my B-Day and I think $900 is a bit too much. But I don't know. We'll see. If I can get it I was going to get the Nikon D60. For now what do you guys think? D60 or D80? I am going to take still pics and some action pics but not serious action pics.

Any nikon SLR will be a massive improvement over a compact.

See if you can get even a D70s only 6mp but fantastic

Agreed - Nikon is the cream of the crop.

The XRay of cameras, so to speak. ;)

You will not be disappointed no matter what your decision.

bait and switch is nothing new..here in Phoenix Fry's Electronics is famous for that, anything that they have in thier ad I take with a grain of salt

WOW! That's great to hear. I'll get the Nikon D80 with 18-55mm VR Lens Kit ($900):surprised:

How will the D60 be with everyday photos and some action pictures? Or is the D80 better for everyday photo's and action pictures?

How far can the 55mm on the 18-55mm Lens zoom into??

Using the 1.5 fov factor is a 35mm camera equivalent of a 82.5mm lens. Zoom will be maybe around 2x.

It depends on how you're taking the photos. If you're using the automatic features, you probably won't notice a difference. The biggest difference is going to be in the features and the responsiveness of the camera. Apparently the D80 turns on, what seems like, instantly, and shoots the photo just as fast. The D60 lacks just a little bit, but unless you're trying to take photos of raindrops hitting the ground, you probably won't need the ultra fast response.

Where this comes into play is for action shots when you're using manual focus, where you have a very narrow window of time in which to take your shot.

You won't regret choosing either of them, and chances are neither of them will leave you wanting more until you get to the pro-am (so to speak) level of photography.

Sweet, I have the XT8 and the D80 18-135 . . . looks like a match:lol:

And by the way, if you can get the D80 18-135 kit for $900 I would say that's a sweet deal. It's less than I got mine for by several bucks. But then again I got mine just under a year ago so maybe prices have dropped. Good luck, you will be stoked with either a D60 or 80 they're awesome.

My B-Day is on June 13th. I am going to get the camera then! I think its the Nikon D60. CAN'T WAIT!