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skellyo 06.11.2008 08:27 AM

Interesting Info...Nitro Shortage
 
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122983

cmcclive 06.11.2008 09:34 AM

maybe now I can get my brushless to work reliably and convice some of the nitro guys at the track that brushless is better.

TexasSP 06.11.2008 09:42 AM

Glad I don't use nitro!

bl-is-future 06.11.2008 09:52 AM

as my name prevails..... bl-is-future

BrianG 06.11.2008 09:59 AM

I bet that's good news to Mike! Hope Neu can keep up with the increase in orders of BL motors. :smile:

Hmmm, also makes me wonder if battery prices will go up for a while because demand will increase?

rcmonkey 06.11.2008 12:48 PM

Awwww no the poor nitro people:na:


Now I just wish CC would makes some more Mamba Monsters!

MetalMan 06.11.2008 12:56 PM

This is a sure thing. At the LHS I work at we've been hearing about more than just $45/gallon as stated in the RC Crawler thread, closer to $80/gal. We will see.

But on the other hand, this is good news for the most part :angel:.

Duster_360 06.11.2008 12:57 PM

I think everything is going up due to the cost of energy...

Bad news on the nitro deal, wonder what NHRA, AHRA are going to do??

Thirdgen89GTA 06.11.2008 01:03 PM

The problem is the cost of converting to brushless in the 1/8th scale market. If a manufacturer would make a 1/8th scale buggy that starts as an electric then it would easily become more popular.

I haven't converted any of my cars yet simply because of the cost to do so. At least $450 for every 1/8 I own. I like brushless, I like the fact that I can simply plug it in and go without tuning. However I love the sound of a Nitro screaming past, its sounds like a mini F1. I also like that fact that I don't have to worry about toasting a battery if I shock it too bad with a bad landing.

Traxxas is paving the way with the eRevo. Now if only one of the big 1/8th mfg's would put out an electric kit version of their big nitro 8ths.

magman 06.11.2008 01:04 PM

I have an unopened can of 20% that i have had for a while....may be I will put it up on e-bay when the shortage hits!!! Sorry nitro :rofl:.....just kidding

bl-is-future 06.11.2008 01:06 PM

i have 1/2 gal of fuel that has been sitting here since i converted.

magman 06.11.2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA (Post 181327)
The problem is the cost of converting to brushless in the 1/8th scale market. If a manufacturer would make a 1/8th scale buggy that starts as an electric then it would easily become more popular.

I haven't converted any of my cars yet simply because of the cost to do so. At least $450 for every 1/8 I own. I like brushless, I like the fact that I can simply plug it in and go without tuning. However I love the sound of a Nitro screaming past, its sounds like a mini F1. I also like that fact that I don't have to worry about toasting a battery if I shock it too bad with a bad landing.

Traxxas is paving the way with the eRevo. Now if only one of the big 1/8th mfg's would put out an electric kit version of their big nitro

8ths.

I heard rumblings somewhere that at least one man. is working on a brushless setup from the factory. Unfortunately, you can bet it will not be as good as if you by the better components separately...IMO Also, noise is becoming a much bigger issue over the last several years and so BL conversions will be the wave of the future.

skellyo 06.11.2008 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA (Post 181327)
Traxxas is paving the way with the eRevo. Now if only one of the big 1/8th mfg's would put out an electric kit version of their big nitro 8ths.

I wouldn't call what traxxas is doing with the E-Revo paving the way. It's still considered a 1/10th scale MT and has the same power system as the E-Maxx. It's hardly a revolution IMO.

skellyo 06.11.2008 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magman (Post 181331)
I heard rumblings somewhere that at least one man. is working on a brushless setup from the factory.

Actually, a manufacturer already has one designed. They're also ready for pre-orders IIRC.

http://www.casterracing.com/en/produ...&productid=227

crazyjr 06.11.2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 181344)
Actually, a manufacturer already has one designed. They're also ready for pre-orders IIRC.

http://www.casterracing.com/en/produ...&productid=227

caster and Losi both seem to be designing an E-1/8 buggy, I am fixing to do my 8T into a brushless truggy

BrianG 06.11.2008 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 181344)
Actually, a manufacturer already has one designed. They're also ready for pre-orders IIRC.

http://www.casterracing.com/en/produ...&productid=227

And I won't mention any names, but a member of the forum here had a pretty big part in that design. It's not me, but someone fairly close. Don't know how much I should say but if he comes online here, he can add the details...

brushlessboy16 06.11.2008 03:03 PM

www.nitro.justgotowned.com


Enuff said.

jayjay283 06.11.2008 03:22 PM

$45 a gallon is what premium unleaded costs in chicago. Ill just run my 1/1 on nitro. j/k

thank you for small favors. Less nerve racking eye burning nitro noise at the tracks and bashing grounds! probably mean lipos go up and motors too until the supply levels with new demand, then big sale pricing.. then again im just a negative person who recieved 2 30c lipos in the mail today. LOL@ nitro guys :lol:

Traxxas really should have made that erevo brushless out of the box. Would have been perfect timing. :: watches ship sail past ::

jhautz 06.11.2008 06:01 PM

I'm sure there is more than one manufacturer working on a factory electric 1/8. Its just a matter of time now. The writing is on the wall and it will be the next boom like the truggy was a couple years ago.

On the flip side... if nitro does get that expensive and become that hard to get it will sure thin out the crowd at the track. Who will I race against untill they revolution happpens. :mdr: I dont see this hobby getting maore expensive as a good thing no matter how you look at it. Its already expensive enough. It will just become that much more prohibitive for the masses and I hate to say it but the hobby has been struggling to grow for some time now. Anything that make growth harder in any area of the hobby is a bad thing IMO.

I hope this is just a nasty rumor.

fromdaboz707 06.11.2008 06:33 PM

O no i use nitro but wish i could run BL but i can afford the batteries and a battery wont last an 30 minute main. but if everyone ran bl at my track then i would not mind running a 15 minute main.

brushlessboy16 06.11.2008 07:07 PM

Batteries can last 30 minute main....i get 45 mins of runtime with a 4000mah pack...

entjoles 06.11.2008 08:53 PM

i guess that most fuel is made in china and they are shuting down production for the olympics, so its temporary

FG101C 06.11.2008 09:44 PM

Good gives me a reason to convert my 808 before I stink it all up with nitro. Think I'll finish off my bottle of nitro with my Hyper 8 and sell what nitro stuff I can. :great:

DRIFT_BUGGY 06.12.2008 02:22 AM

It was going to happen, surprised it took this long.

TDC57 06.12.2008 03:35 AM

This has been an extremely interesting thread to read, this issue of lack of Nitro fuel has its positives and it negatives.

The biggest positives being:
• Less Nitro vehicles at the track, which helps keep down the crowds, noise and exhaust fumes.

The biggest negatives being:
• Hurting our hobby in a way that would now exclude the mass population and driving up further demand on items that are already highly sought after. Manufactures will be required to pour tons of money into keeping up with the (E) generation, thus passing the cost for the new R&D back to the consumer which then increases the overall initial investment by what?? Hundreds of dollars?.


This is going to hurt us too gentlemen.. This is not a good thing if it last!, If it going to be temporary for say the next 6-8 months?? Well than SUCK IT UP NITRO!..:rofl: Haaaa!.. :na:

Personal opinion

TexasSP 06.12.2008 10:18 AM

It's amazing to me what this thread has become. Yet another "end to nitro" type deal. This is just a phenomenon related to plants closing, not the end of all things to be. I highly doubt in the grand scheme of things it will change much as a way of hobby life. Nitro will still be around and electric will keep growing. What I don't understand is the attitude by some that this is somehow great and ha ha on the nitro guys. I respect their choice of nitro for their reasons although I don't like nitro and prefer electric. The more people in the hobby the better no matter if the gravitate toward nitro or electric.

People let this pass and stop the doom and gloom predictions.

rcmaxxer 06.15.2008 05:21 PM

Lets hope this doesnt drive prices to high and keep people from getting into the hobby

azjc 06.15.2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by entjoles (Post 181425)
i guess that most fuel is made in china and they are shuting down production for the olympics, so its temporary

Fuel is not the only thing...I have heard through the grapevine @ work that some of our vendors have warned us already. From what I have heard the area surronding where the Olympics are being played have manufacturing plants that cause a lot of pollution and everything will be shut down.

wallot 06.15.2008 06:18 PM

well RB fuel I use in my racing Mugen costs $70 without VAT here

BL racing will have hard time getting even with nitro, especially in europe. The best thing about nitros are long mains and pit stops.

Weekend race i went to yesterday had an OPEN - totally open to get as many people as possible (1:10, 1:8 electric monster/stadium whatever truck) - class. Only 3 people registered and two showed up - one of them being myself with my maxx finally looking on testing it agains my friends LSP (me being better driver agains him with obviously better truck). it seems like people with electric trucks are afraid of racing. anyway i at least won the IC truggy class :)

When i bought my MBX5-T a month and half ago i got Mike's motor mount for it, but next day i got it my friend told me " whats the point getting another 1/8 BL truck when noone will want to race with you ", so i just threw RB in it and love it (my first nitro as I always prefered electric and BL thanks to this forum). I race almost every weekend, race at nationals and love it


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