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brushlessboy16 06.24.2008 09:54 PM

Industrial Castle link for RC uses?
 
I was wondering if there is any way of adaptings or getting a special edition of the Industrial Castle-link for use on the Mamba, Mamba Max, and Mamba monster....
I was browsing the "make a special edition" thread then looked at the software page on Castles industrial website... its got everything us Rc'ers want..

-Built in Data-logger
-RPM limiter
-spool-up time (accel limiter?)
and the list goes on ..:party::lol:

Pdelcast 06.24.2008 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 185342)
I was wondering if there is any way of adaptings or getting a special edition of the Industrial Castle-link for use on the Mamba, Mamba Max, and Mamba monster....
I was browsing the "make a special edition" thread then looked at the software page on Castles industrial website... its got everything us Rc'ers want..

-Built in Data-logger
-RPM limiter
-spool-up time (accel limiter?)
and the list goes on ..:party::lol:

A lot of those "features" will eventually go into the RC versions, as a software upgrade. It just takes time to port the software to all the different platforms.... :wink:

jhautz 06.24.2008 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 185369)
A lot of those "features" will eventually go into the RC versions, as a software upgrade. It just takes time to port the software to all the different platforms.... :wink:


:great:

brushlessboy16 06.24.2008 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 185369)
A lot of those "features" will eventually go into the RC versions, as a software upgrade. It just takes time to port the software to all the different platforms.... :wink:


how soon is eventually :lol:

azjc 06.25.2008 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 185372)
how soon is eventually :lol:

probubly something your great grand children will enjoy....:sarcastic:

tc3_racer_001 06.25.2008 03:31 AM

do it with the MMM as a suprise when you start running them off next week :lol: i wish! but in the next 6 months would be AWESOME!!!

imagine that. u can have 6s and a stupidly high kv motor, but limit the rpm to a sensable limit and have crazy take off speeds. or is that just a stupid idea??

could be sueful as a way of learning how to drive a new powerful setup... or using different gearing. :)

DRIFT_BUGGY 06.25.2008 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 185369)
A lot of those "features" will eventually go into the RC versions, as a software upgrade. It just takes time to port the software to all the different platforms.... :wink:

Great News

TruckBasher 06.25.2008 07:32 AM

That would definitely be great speacially if they can put it on the MMM :wink:

brushlessboy16 06.25.2008 08:36 AM

or the Mamba Max

TruckBasher 06.25.2008 08:41 AM

Yeah, MM included I hope....specially since my MM is on its way.....I bought 1 so I can at least play with my toy while I wait for MMM :wink:

Pdelcast 06.25.2008 11:28 AM

Just wanted to point out that some of the industrial features will not be available in the Mamba software -- because of the lack of hardware to support some features.

For example, current datalogging will never be available in the Mamba, because none of the Mamba designs have high accuracy current sensors.

And datalogging (if it becomes available for the Mamba) will be limited because of limited available memory on the Mamba.

jhautz 06.25.2008 11:36 AM

Even some very simple data logging would be very usefull.

For instnace, Maximum current and minimum voltage and max motor RPM from the last pack would be very nice info for it to be able to display.

BrianG 06.25.2008 11:38 AM

I would think basic datalogging would be a useful feature for Castle because it can help your repair techs see who was abusing their ESC with high V or high A...

brushlessboy16 06.25.2008 11:50 AM

hey, shhhhh brian! dont tell them that

jhautz 06.25.2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 185520)
I would think basic datalogging would be a useful feature for Castle because it can help your repair techs see who was abusing their ESC with high V or high A...


Not if all that gets sent in is a pile of ash. lol :mdr:

Although, that really hasnt been a problem with CC controllers.

Dagger Thrasher 06.25.2008 11:59 AM

Even basic datalogging would be incredibly useful...max/min voltage and max motor RPM from a run (if there's not enough memory to store a a run's worth of data at 1hz, or whatever it may be). Current logging even if not very accurate, could still be useful for checking the ballpark figures. If it was only accurate to within 10A, even that would be helpful for checking out maximum rough current draw with a motor...but if the hardware isn't up to that, then it's no big deal.

Simpler things like hard RPM-limiting would be great, or even some kind of rudimentary traction control that goes beyond the current Punch Control; I don't know how or if it could work, but perhaps it'd be possible to be able to set a *minimum* voltage level (voltage drop) which the Mamba won't go below during the run, and limits acceleration so as to stay above that voltage. I'm not sure how you'd get the controller to distinguish between that and the LiPo cutoff voltage though, and it might not work well at all...but it wouldn't require current measurement. Just voltage measurement, which is a function of current draw.

Now that I think of it, it's a terrible idea lol...but there sure is a lot of stuff that could be done with the software. :smile:

Mister-T 06.25.2008 12:07 PM

Still need a good current limiter/control. Monster would be an awesome controller for E-bike

Mamba Monster Bike, wheelie on demand :D

BrianG 06.25.2008 12:53 PM

How about "datalogging" that would just show min, max, and average voltages and currents vs time? There has to be enough memory for 6 total data points. :smile:

Pdelcast 06.25.2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagger Thrasher (Post 185531)
Even basic datalogging would be incredibly useful...max/min voltage and max motor RPM from a run (if there's not enough memory to store a a run's worth of data at 1hz, or whatever it may be). Current logging even if not very accurate, could still be useful for checking the ballpark figures. If it was only accurate to within 10A, even that would be helpful for checking out maximum rough current draw with a motor...but if the hardware isn't up to that, then it's no big deal.

Simpler things like hard RPM-limiting would be great, or even some kind of rudimentary traction control that goes beyond the current Punch Control; I don't know how or if it could work, but perhaps it'd be possible to be able to set a *minimum* voltage level (voltage drop) which the Mamba won't go below during the run, and limits acceleration so as to stay above that voltage. I'm not sure how you'd get the controller to distinguish between that and the LiPo cutoff voltage though, and it might not work well at all...but it wouldn't require current measurement. Just voltage measurement, which is a function of current draw.

Now that I think of it, it's a terrible idea lol...but there sure is a lot of stuff that could be done with the software. :smile:

Current isn't even within 10A on the Mamba or Monster hardware -- I basically have two bits of current data.

The Phoenix-ICE series will have an integrated high precision current monitor, and will have hardware support for reversing modes -- so will work OK in a car.

BrianG 06.25.2008 02:01 PM

patrick, how are you measuring current, especially with such a large range? I can't imagine you are using a shunt to detect small v drops, and a current sample coil would be too large I would think...

Pdelcast 06.25.2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 185566)
patrick, how are you measuring current, especially with such a large range? I can't imagine you are using a shunt to detect small v drops, and a current sample coil would be too large I would think...

On the Phoenix-ICE we are using a 250 micro ohm (.00025 ohm) precision (1%) shunt.

bdebde 06.25.2008 03:15 PM

Something like: max amps, amps at full throttle, min voltage, max rpm and max temp would be nice (same as MGM has). And the amp readings on the MGM is way off, just use it as a comparison for different set ups.


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