lst2 bl conversion
 

hi guys i have a bl revo that has cost me a fortune but not really that impressed with it
so im looking to convert one of my nitro cars i have a lst2 and a muggy i was wondering wich one you guys would recomend

i do like my lst alot more than the muggy so im leaning more towards that but does any one do a conversion kit
.ie. motor mount

i have found the bits that mike does like the 2 speed pinion addapter and the battery tray but no motor mount
can anyone point me in the right direction please

i see mike has the motor mount for the muggy so im thinking that this would be a a simpler conversion but not to sure if i want to convert this as i do like the lst the most

i have found fine design conversion but have heard lots of bad reports about the service and quality so i would rather not go down that road

any help would be much appriciated

Do the conversion to the LST2 since you like it the most.

Maybe the motor mount for the Muggy will fit the LST2? They're both Losi's.

I think you should ask Mike for a LST2 motormount.

The motor mount for the Muggy will not fit the LST2; Muggy has center diff, LST2 has transmission (and it is mounted sideways).

I think it would be fairly easy to fab your own motor mount for the lst2 with an pieces of angle aluminum. You could then use mikes pinion adapter and the nitro motor mounts for adjusting the mesh. Your other option is a direct to diff outrunner which desmo has done on here.

Just curious what about the revo setup you don't like though? What are you running in it?

I'm doing my LST2, but, still haven't gotten around to going to the milling guy to mill my mount. I've got the metal & the design all ready to go.

Just no motivation. Still converting my CRT & MP 7.5 at the same time, plus, being sick makes things a little more challenging.

Have fried a Mamba Monster V1 in my truggy & the Quark SSB MkIII couldn't cope with the weight of the BLST & also went bye byes. Had it replaced for free as the guy recommended it to me for it. Have since put that in my buggy.

Waiting on CC to send back my repaired MM V1 & have ordered another 5 V2's for me & a few other guy's that have yet to be sent.

I am collecting parts to build a brusless lst2 also, im 90% there. I need an adjustable mount too. Somethign that can hold a 1527/1521 nicely. Good info on LST2 conversions and some custom parts for sale that Mike needs to make us :mdr: LINK

http://www.impaktrc.com/product_info...oducts_id=2865

I forgot about these motor mounts as well. Linc has one and I think they would work well for an lst2.

i Have any outrunner for sale if anyone is intersted in a direct drive conversion

I did a Muggy already (made my own motor mount). It is a blast to drive and very fast (see my sig for build thread).

I am also working on an LST2 conversion. I didn't like the layout with the transmission; doesn't give you much room for batteries. I have seen a couple on here that have used an emaxx tranny to put it in the center with batts down either side. This looks like a better layout to me, but may require a custom upper deck. I had an extra center diff for the Muggy and will be using that along with front and rear Muggy diffs (closer to truggy ratio than LST2 diffs). I will likely do custom top and bottom chassis plates (maybe CF).

I have an aftershock to convert, and planned running a kb 45 10xl motor on 8s lipo. Was going to move the brake servo next to the tranny, and make a pair of battery trays. One would be between the steering servos and the tranny, and the other would be where the fuel tank usually is. Going to use a hv85 esc, so the mech brakes and the 2 speed will stay. I like the idea of the lst mech high and low gear tranny internals, I may swap that in...

I've recently started an LST2 conversion too and am considering the fabrication of a motor mount. I'd rather wait on one thats already fabbed but may not be available by my next race. It's being made by "TheDude" (TDR Racing)on LSTForums: http://lstforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=12549
The Latest posts indicate he has sent the proto's out for testing and final mod. suggestions; I'm guessing it'll be a month or two before his production units are available. I've already got one of his Single Speed Hubs coming:
http://lstforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=11130
I'll be running it with a FOC with "swap mod", a 59T TiNi Losi spur, a 25T pinion from Mike and my MMM/1515/1y combo. Calcs out at just over 35mph on Brian's speed calc. I'm hopin' to be Smokin' Revos with it in the near future.:smile:

I considered trying to use the Tekno mount but I think spacing, pinion adjustment, and the Tranny mount may cause more issues than I want to deal with.

Thanks for the info Chapito and be sure to keep us updated on your progress.

I converted an aftershock to brushless. I am using the FD motor mounts, however, I will never deal with them ever again. They sent me two different sized mounts, wouldn't return phone calls or email, so I've had to make a shim using some cardboard to run the mounts, and there is no way to adjust for using different sized pinions, even if you have the same sized mounts.

If you can, wait for the mount that Chapito talked about. I've dealt with "The Dude", running his single speed spur adapter and pinion mount, top quality work and great customer service. If chapito's links don't work go to hdrcvideos.com and look under the custom conversion project area section, same site, lstforums, but that's an old link chapito put up.

Well, I'll be!

I never actually thought of using one of those mounts.

It may work quite well, but, would need a definite confirmation from either Mike or someone that's already using one.

I had been debating the tekno mount for the LST2. I was waiting for the 40mm mount to be available, but they dont sell the adjustable motor mount plate option, so it wouldn't it be just another unadjustable stationary mount. ?

Note: Tekno RC V3 Motor Mount Plates (TKR40002, TKR40002A) not included and are not required. Your application may vary and the motor mount plates may make it easier to adjust gear mesh.

The 36mm tekno mount I have has the 4 m4 thread holes placed in a square pattern, 34mm apart on both sides. If the slots for the nitro mount line up with those specs, then you should be able to use it. Problem is that it will sit too far back from the spur, unless you use the tekno clutch adapter and a clutch setup to make up the space.

34mm would work.. clutch huh, so many options yet so limited lol

That really depends, if you're still using the 2 speed clutchbell type setup & the gears line up nicely next to the spurs all that the mount would need to do is slide from back to front (of the truck) to adjust the mesh. Just like the nitro motor mount does.

The nitro motor mount doesn't move any other way apart from the forward/backward movement up to the transmission & to & from the tank.

I know a guy here that bought one & I want to see if it'll suit my truck & clutch set up. If so, giddyup(!!):mdr::party:, I'm buying one.

By the way, is there a pic of these plates?

I just measured the screw holes from the nitro motor mount still mounted to my motor & they are not even close to being the same distance. Maybe these plates will solve that issue??

Im hoping to have one of these to test these weekend. With a Neu 1515 1y in my lst2. The guy I am getting the mount from is one very smart DUDE.

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That is slick! This Dude needs to get with Mike about selling these on RCM. That would be an awesome compliment to Mike's already nice array of conversion parts.

Let us know how that goes. I was going to make my own mount for the aftershock, but time is always against me...

Yeah the dude is who I was talking about in my 1st post, didnt want to come out and say it. His mount will be sick, and the 1 speed hubs are great. Theres 5-10 conversions going on just here another 10-20 on that site. Mike needs to make stuff like that or get into an lst2 conversion collusion with him :lol: !!

Yeah, just to clarify for everyone, I'm one of Mike's biggest fans and always recommend purchasing from him first. If he had an LST motor mount or one speed hub I would already have ordered one from him. As far as I know, TDR racing(TheDude) is the only one making the Hub and developing a mount; just sharing the knowledge.:yes:

mind made up
 

ok guys well i have decided to go with the lst rather than the muggy

i have orderd the impakt rc motor mount and mikes 2 speed adapter

i will probably fab my own battery tray i will try the motor mount out but will probably have t fab some thing up to get it to work right but when it all turns up i will let you no how it went and get some pics up for ya to check out
cheers for ya advice
now i just have to weight :whistle: :whistle:

dudes engine mount
 

hi guys had a look at my truck now thinking that the engine mount fron impakt wont fit has anyone tried the motor mount that dudes made on a lst yet and the single speed gear hub
whats the quality like
ease of use
ease of mounting
cheers

the motor mount isn't out yet, The Dude uses the Captain as a tester, that is why he is expecting one. Otherwise I have one of his single speed hubs and they are great. Definitely recommend it.

i received it today will test fit it tonight and run it tomorrrow. Let you guys know what is up. how it performs.

hot diggity, were rolling now. fingers x'ed GL :great:

ok guys has any one put the emaxx gearbox in the lst if so do you need to change the gearing i have a emaxx chassis plate and gearbox i could bolt up to the lst chassis
but what would the best gearing be to use i do have the strobe slipper and the ofna spur that i use on my bl revo would this be any good and what size pinion would you recomend

You could...
 

I did this, it works with some mods to the LST chassis, the gearing is ok. The maxx box in stock form won't hold up well if you're running any serious power though.

ok chassis mods not a problem emaxx box alreadt upgraded but did you use std emaxx spur or somthing diffrent
cheers mate

Ok I got the motor mount installed did not have time to run it. Fit and finish were nice bet the production model will be sweet. The dude and I were worried about bracing the larger Neu motor. I can honestly say that I do not believe a brace is necessary. It took quite a bit of force to get the motor and the mount to flex. It fit perfect in the mounting locations and some 4mm button heads to secure it to chassis. It is very rigid. The swivel action is a great feature for setting the gear mesh. So far overall looks like it will be another homerun. I am going to use plastic spurs this weekend so I can tell if the motor mount is flexing causing funny spur wear. Here are some quick pics of it mounted up. gonna have to do some creative work to get the gear cover on. LOL

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Different!
 

I was using one of Holmes Hobbies early custom jobs, It's a large, low kv outrunner directly running the input shaft. It's a neat set up for speed runs but it's not really very good for the application, too much mass to spin from start-up and it's very sensitive to driveline shock. If I did it again, I would use a slipper and an inrunner motor. However, with what I learned between the e-maxx and the LST, I ended up building a BL Muggy which is way better than either one imho. The Muggy is simply much better handling, mostly due to a low cg but I do wish that Mike would make with the Slipperential!!

Here's one I built with an E-Maxx tranny. AS long as you do all the upgrades to the tranny ( upgrade pin on input shaft gear, steel idler gear, and gorilla maxx drive adapter ) it works great. Here's a couple of pics.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...splates007.jpg
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hi mate i was gonna try do something with my chassis but what you have there looks ideal any chance on some info on where i can get one like that or did you make it your self
what spur and pinion you running on that

That maxx-tranny job looks factory. Nice job on it for sure.

I think there is an excellent market for someone who comes out with a nice lst/lst2/aftershock electric conversion kit.

Hi I made it myself, I'm running mod1 gears 9XL with 18t pinion and 52t spur, I'm using an MGT spur/slipper, it's exactly like an E-Maxx slipper only mod1.

ok mate well good job done on making it your self look great
thanks for the pm and if you do ever make any more bear me in mind its better than i could ever do

If you have the chassis designed on cad you could at least sell the file, I am sure many would pay for it. Or even better, make them yourself and sell them. I think basing it off the 3905 tranny would be best.

Again, it is a very impressive conversion to say the least.

Thanks for all the good words guys. The truck does work extremly well though, I personally think it's a better option than a Revo IMHO. I think you guys are convincing me to produce some of these, but make no mistake it is very time consuming pursuing things like this. I looked at the 3905 tranny, but I'm pretty sure it would not work for this application because the motor mount flares out right at the bottom of the tranny and it looked to me like it would interfere with the battery tray mount location. Thanks again for the compliments.