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bustitup 08.08.2008 12:06 AM

strange neu deal
 
well I called neu about there "special deals" when I saw they updated there photos on the site and asked if they hads any 1515's or 1512's and the girl told me that all the motors on the webpage had been taken but asked if i would hold and she would go look in the box to see if anything was added...she comes back and tells me theres a 1512/2.5d s........so I tell her I would take it...so it came today and when I took it out of the mail box it felt heavy to me...heavier than i expected a 1512 to feel like...anyway I brought it in to my office desk and was handling the motor thinking man this sucker seems well built and BIG...glancing at the white sticker that comes on the motors I thought all day today that it said 1512/2.5d/s and i left it lay on my desk and went on about my business for the rest of the day.......which brings me to now sitting here handling the motor again I look at that white tag and realize it says 1515/2.5d/s....could this be a 1512 marked 1515 or is it really a 1515...this is my first neu so i'm including a picture....it measures almost 2 3/4" and is bery heavy

if it is a 1515 did I get a better motor for my converted revo than I expected or should i sell this ......can i get 45mph out of this motor on 4's and still run cool? and what can I get out of it on 6's?

http://www.rgcbuilders.net/neu1515a.jpg

George16 08.08.2008 12:11 AM

Quote:

Neu 1515 2.5d/F Sensorless Brushless Motors
This motor has a smooth can.
1515/2.5D 1700Kv 12.70oz. 2.7in. long
The Neu motors are 4-pole motors and will work with the Quark line of controllers as well as the MGM controllers (with the latest software).
Quote:

Neu 1512 2.5d/f Sensorless Brushless Motor
1512/2D 2000Kv 10.23oz. 2.4in. long
The Neu motors are 4-pole motors and will work with the Quark line of controllers as well as the MGM controllers (with the latest software).

You just hit the jackpot :yes::yes:. How much did you pay for it?

bustitup 08.08.2008 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George16 (Post 199464)
You just hit the jackpot :yes::yes:. How much did you pay for it?



your going to faint...$100 shipped...lol

and there isnt a scratch on it....the tip of the pinion shaft has some heat stains you can see in the picture


so I can get 45mph on 4's?

MTBikerTim 08.08.2008 12:17 AM

That will be an awesome 6s motor.

MTBikerTim 08.08.2008 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bustitup (Post 199466)
your going to faint...$100 shipped...lol

and there isnt a scratch on it....the tip of the pinion shaft has some heat stains you can see in the picture


so I can get 45mph on 4's?

The heat marks are probably from heating it up to get a pinion off or something.

What's_nitro? 08.08.2008 12:22 AM

That's some deal! I'll give you $150 for it... :mdr:

jnev 08.08.2008 12:31 AM

Holy $%&!! $100 for a Neu 1515/2.5d? Thats a hell of a deal. :yes: Just don't expect to find any more brand new Neu's for that price. :wink:

bustitup 08.08.2008 12:37 AM

nobody has answered my question..can I run 45mph on truerc 8000mah 15c lipos with mm and run cool

I will be using my maxamps 2/8000mah 3's when my mmm finally gets here

this is my truck for this motor

http://www.rgcbuilders.net/build13.jpg

What's_nitro? 08.08.2008 12:44 AM

I think that motor will do fine at 45 mph. The batts may heat up from the extra current draw at the lower voltage. On 6s you could do 60 mph if you wanted to. Or keep it at 45 mph and have everything stay cool.

ffactory666 08.08.2008 03:18 AM

Wow nice pick up.
Why don't those things ever happen to me

George16 08.08.2008 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ffactory666 (Post 199507)
Wow nice pick up.
Why don't those things ever happen to me

I'm on the same boat with you :cry::cry:

Byte 08.08.2008 03:58 AM

CC Special deals? What are that?

But that's a nice price! :)

Patrick 08.08.2008 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bustitup (Post 199466)
your going to faint...$100 shipped...lol

I hate you. :lol:
I got my finned 1515 2.5d when they were $275, plus shipping to Australia.
Don't know about 45mph on 4s, maybe high 30's-40 with ok temps, but on 5s and 6s 45mph with low temps hasn't been an issue in my e-maxx and truggy.

danhfvcsd 08.08.2008 04:30 AM

I know i'm gonna cop it for this, but...
Am i the only honest one here thinking this motor should be sent back and replaced for what was originally ordered and paid for???

Before you answer that - just imagine you owned a company, and your workers screwed up an order the same way... wouldn't you want your customer to be honest and send it back??
Even better - i know how ppl tend to worship Mike round here - so what if it was him that made the same mistake?? would you have sent it back or said nothing??

This is clearly the same thing as stealing... no wonder the world is turning to shit, with all the decency shrivelling away from society...

Does anyone agree with me here?? Or has this even crossed anyones mind??

tc3_racer_001 08.08.2008 06:05 AM

i would email them again and ask them what they shipped out... and if they really meant to ship out a 1512 then tell them, but if they sent it out on purpose then :party:

Byte 08.08.2008 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danhfvcsd (Post 199525)
I know i'm gonna cop it for this, but...
Am i the only honest one here thinking this motor should be sent back and replaced for what was originally ordered and paid for???

Before you answer that - just imagine you owned a company, and your workers screwed up an order the same way... wouldn't you want your customer to be honest and send it back??
Even better - i know how ppl tend to worship Mike round here - so what if it was him that made the same mistake?? would you have sent it back or said nothing??

This is clearly the same thing as stealing... no wonder the world is turning to shit, with all the decency shrivelling away from society...

Does anyone agree with me here?? Or has this even crossed anyones mind??

Castlecreations is a pritty big company, they have money enough.. :lol:

Mike is 1 person, I dunno how much money Mike has, but I don't believe hes very rich. If Mike makes such a mistake it's not very good, if CC makes such a mistake than it's not such a big problem...

Again, sorry for my Englisch, I hope you guys will understand what I mean :neutral:

83gt 08.08.2008 07:00 AM

No way I would send it back, unless they contacted me and asked me to. For all I knew, she said 1515 on the phone and i misheard her....

J.

rootar 08.08.2008 07:22 AM

the motor is clearly used and im sure she miss read it too you, but it is the same motor they were gonna sell for a $100 to anyone else anyways, id call them and make sure they know what you recieved and let them know what you were told it was, if its still not what you want sell it to some one on here and buy what you want.....


but thats a badass motor i just got the updated version from mike and paid 3X that much for it and the front and rear covers.....

bustitup 08.08.2008 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rootar (Post 199536)
the motor is clearly used and im sure she miss read it too you, but it is the same motor they were gonna sell for a $100 to anyone else anyways, id call them and make sure they know what you recieved and let them know what you were told it was, if its still not what you want sell it to some one on here and buy what you want.....


but thats a badass motor i just got the updated version from mike and paid 3X that much for it and the front and rear covers.....

sir you are correct..these motors are sold on a Neu site and all the motors sell for about the same price weather they are 1515 or 1512......they are motors that have been used for testing or returned for some reason.......nobody got screwed...they also come with full factory warrantee also

btw what are using the motor in rootar?

brushlessboy16 08.08.2008 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bustitup (Post 199462)
well I called neu about there "special deals" when I saw they updated there photos on the site and asked if they hads any 1515's or 1512's and the girl told me that all the motors on the webpage had been taken but asked if i would hold and she would go look in the box to see if anything was added...she comes back and tells me theres a 1512/2.5d s........so I tell her I would take it...so it came today and when I took it out of the mail box it felt heavy to me...heavier than i expected a 1512 to feel like...anyway I brought it in to my office desk and was handling the motor thinking man this sucker seems well built and BIG...glancing at the white sticker that comes on the motors I thought all day today that it said 1512/2.5d/s and i left it lay on my desk and went on about my business for the rest of the day.......which brings me to now sitting here handling the motor again I look at that white tag and realize it says 1515/2.5d/s....could this be a 1512 marked 1515 or is it really a 1515...this is my first neu so i'm including a picture....it measures almost 2 3/4" and is bery heavy

if it is a 1515 did I get a better motor for my converted revo than I expected or should i sell this ......can i get 45mph out of this motor on 4's and still run cool? and what can I get out of it on 6's?

http://www.rgcbuilders.net/neu1515a.jpg


what thehell? i called yesterday and they told me they had no 15 series :no::no: that kinda upsets me but glad you like it:yes:

bl-is-future 08.08.2008 08:56 AM

what is the number you guys call to get these motors?

brushlessboy16 08.08.2008 08:59 AM

858-674-2250
thats what i called, the lady was being rude and told me there wasnt any 15 series :no:

BrianG 08.08.2008 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danhfvcsd (Post 199525)
I know i'm gonna cop it for this, but...
Am i the only honest one here thinking this motor should be sent back and replaced for what was originally ordered and paid for???

Before you answer that - just imagine you owned a company, and your workers screwed up an order the same way... wouldn't you want your customer to be honest and send it back??
Even better - i know how ppl tend to worship Mike round here - so what if it was him that made the same mistake?? would you have sent it back or said nothing??

This is clearly the same thing as stealing... no wonder the world is turning to shit, with all the decency shrivelling away from society...

Does anyone agree with me here?? Or has this even crossed anyones mind??

Personally, I'd at least call them and let them know. Even if they asked for a few extra bucks, it's still a heck of a lot cheaper than a new one.

Mike accidentally sent me two lipo packs once when I ordered (and paid for) only one. I let him know and he was grateful.

Another time, I ordered a CRT.5 from someplace, but there was a bit of confusion between the warehouse and retail area. The truck came, but I ended up not paying a penny for it. I called the store and explained the situation, but no one ever did anything, and the credit card still wasn't charged.

What goes around, comes around. Call it karma, but I'd at least give them a heads up.

bl-is-future 08.08.2008 09:45 AM

Yeah i agree you should call them and tell them what you got. Granted it is tempting to just keep it but as Brian said there is what is called karma.

BTW thanks brushlessboy for the number

brushlessboy16 08.08.2008 09:51 AM

well said brian, my mom and i purchased a big craftsman toolbox for my dad's b-day
the one we wanted was 12 drawers and ballbearing slides. well we go into Sears and the one we wanted was right by the door all shiny and all :D...its taken and they have no more instock (sears warehouse had a fire) so we go back and fourth with the department guy and he eventually calls his manager. my mom goes down this big list.. we want this,this,this, and this, just like the floor model and dont want to pay more then the 400 dollars. after 2 hours in the store being very patient they struck up a deal i higher model all ball bearing drawers, ball bearing caster wheels, griplatch 18 drawer for the price of of the floor model 12 drawer.. the biggun' sells for 975 dollars and she walked out of sears with it for $451


shows what a bit of good can do for you :lol:

bustitup 08.08.2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 199554)
Personally, I'd at least call them and let them know. Even if they asked for a few extra bucks, it's still a heck of a lot cheaper than a new one.

Mike accidentally sent me two lipo packs once when I ordered (and paid for) only one. I let him know and he was grateful.

Another time, I ordered a CRT.5 from someplace, but there was a bit of confusion between the warehouse and retail area. The truck came, but I ended up not paying a penny for it. I called the store and explained the situation, but no one ever did anything, and the credit card still wasn't charged.

What goes around, comes around. Call it karma, but I'd at least give them a heads up.

I just tried to call but they are not open yet....but I am going to get in touch with them today to tell them what happen

brushlessboy16 08.08.2008 10:24 AM

when did you buy the motor?

skellyo 08.08.2008 10:31 AM

If your packing slip/invoice shows a 1515/2.5D I don't see a problem. If it says 1512/2.5D, I'd definitely call them.

bustitup 08.08.2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 199567)
when did you buy the motor?


I paid them on 8-04-08 and received it yesterday

what know one seems to understand here is that they have a box with these tested motors in it..at the time I called this motor was the only 15 series motor that was available but it wasnt even put up on the webpage yet so she didnt know what to charge me for the motor so she told me to call back when she talk to the person in charge (steve) and when I called back she said they wanted $100

now you must realize that when the motors are posted on there website all the motors are priced at around $100 some higher for big big motors or motors with fans built on..even there smaller series motors are $100

bl-is-future 08.08.2008 10:35 AM

i dont think cost is really the point. It is a point of honesty. If you are dishonest it WILL come back to bite you in the ass sooner or later. I have seen it happen to many before.
Quote:

Originally Posted by bustitup (Post 199570)
I paid them on 8-04-08 and received it yesterday

what know one seems to understand here is that they have a box with these tested motors in it..at the time I called this motor was the only 15 series motor that was available but it wasnt even put up on the webpage yet so she didnt know what to charge me for the motor so she told me to call back when she talk to the person in charge (steve) and when I called back she said they wanted $100

now you must realize that when the motors are posted on there website all the motors are priced at around $100 some higher for big big motors or motors with fans built on..even there smaller series motors are $100


bustitup 08.08.2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 199569)
If your packing slip/invoice shows a 1515/2.5D I don't see a problem. If it says 1512/2.5D, I'd definitely call them.

well thats another thing..I wasnt given any paper work what so ever....just a motor bubble wrapped in a small box

but I am going to call them today again to ease everyones mind

lincpimp 08.08.2008 10:41 AM

Looks to me like the girl on the phone read the numbers wrong, so she had the same motor in her hand. I am sure that the price was marked on it, so she just relayed that over the phone. So the mistake was hers, and probably had nothing to do with the price. The fact you can still use it for you application is great. The cost difference between a 1512 and a 1515 new are no that much. I do not see this as stealing. The motor may have been a test motor, or a repaired motor that had very little use and a caring first owner.

I recently bought a neu from a forum member for $100 bucks. It had a loose shaft, and he offered it to me for that price. I shipped it back to neu and they fixed it for me free of charge and returned it to me. So I also have a 1515 for $100 and do not feel like I stole it...

If Neu accidentall refunded your money for the motor, I would call them about that, otherwise I would enjoy the motor!

coolrunnings 08.08.2008 11:24 AM

The motor is not brand new it is used.

bustitup 08.08.2008 11:55 AM

OK..everyone can relax and rest assured that there isn't a thief in the forums...j/k

I just got off the phone with the man at neutronics (Steve) and explained what happened....he was def surprised but whenI said I called because I didn't want to cheat anyone he said not a problem.....if I was satisfied he was OK with it and I didn't owe them a dime

bl-is-future 08.08.2008 12:08 PM

now good things will happen to you. :lol: seriously though, see all is well.

rootar 08.08.2008 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bustitup (Post 199537)
sir you are correct..these motors are sold on a Neu site and all the motors sell for about the same price weather they are 1515 or 1512......they are motors that have been used for testing or returned for some reason.......nobody got screwed...they also come with full factory warrantee also

btw what are using the motor in rootar?


i knew exactly what had happened, i had called about 3 weeks ago asking if they had any testers or rebuilt ones forsale, but they didnt have any at the time so i shelled out and bought mine from mike, but mine is the new updated version, with bigger bearings, flatspot on shaft, and thicker screwed on endbell, (basically a teckno version but black with holes in the ends.)

im using mine in an Xray 8xb on a 5s 5000 flightpower pack

if i was you id keep it these are awesome 5s and 6s motor from what i understand, but on 4s they arent quite as "explosive"

bustitup 08.08.2008 12:43 PM

Thanks for the confidence Rootar......I also knew I was ok but do feel better since i called

anyway the 1515/2.5 has a 80 amp rating ....you guys think these batts would suffice?

NEW TrueRC 5000mAh 11.1V 3S1P 15C Pack




HIGH PERFORMANCE PACK FOR AIRPLANE OR CAR




Balance plug, works with all of our balancers. Can be modified for AF Blinky for use without adapter.




Size
28mm x 45mm x 160mm

Weight
395g / 13.9oz 12AWG WIRES

Discharge
Up to 75A Continuous
100A Max burst

Price
$89




Fits PERFECT into Traxxas E-REVO

with the L shaped bracket removed.

L shaped bracket is for holding down shorter packs and can be easily removed since this battery fully utilizes the battery bay. For best fit, install the battery into the bay with the wires first.

PERFECT FOR MMM or NEU motor setup and any other 6S capable ESC and Motor

bl-is-future 08.08.2008 12:47 PM

i feel the only thing lacking is voltage. 3s is a little low for a revo. 4s min i woudl say. But if you are saying 2 of those above than YES they will be fine. I just got a set of 2s (4s total) true rc and run them with a 15151y in a hyper 7 and they dont even get hot, barely warm and NO PUFFING. great lipos for the money.

bustitup 08.08.2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bl-is-future (Post 199630)
i feel the only thing lacking is voltage. 3s is a little low for a revo. 4s min i woudl say. But if you are saying 2 of those above than YES they will be fine. I just got a set of 2s (4s total) true rc and run them with a 15151y in a hyper 7 and they dont even get hot, barely warm and NO PUFFING. great lipos for the money.


yes I meant 2 of them for 6's...they only had 75a cont. so I didnt know if they would be ok

I have the same 2s2p 8000 15c two of them for 4's in my medusa 36-60-2000 and they are great

TexasSP 08.08.2008 01:03 PM

Give the guy a chance. He is obviously not dishonest as he came on here honestly seeking advice. I am sure he will make an effort with neu and all will be well.


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