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TDC57 08.15.2008 01:14 AM

Next build = Rock crawler
 
I need / looking for ideas and links for killer crawlers please..:intello: I’ve got the Itch again and I'm done with all my builds.. :whistle:

As always thanks for your time gentlemen.. :yes:

Shaun.

MTBikerTim 08.15.2008 01:18 AM

I've always been a bit of a fan of http://gmade.net/ just because they look so damn cool.

jayjay283 08.15.2008 01:38 AM

Yeah you need the gmade like this dudes sweet build http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...tealth+crawler

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...2832/gmade.jpg

TruckBasher 08.15.2008 01:51 AM

+1 on the GMADE although i dont have spider (crawler) I had the dragoon but I sold it. They are tough though.

Shaun you like Traxxas releasing one truck after the other but only difference is you release different models lol

TDC57 08.15.2008 02:02 AM

LOL... thanks for the laugh TB.. :mdr:


Tim and Jay.. That’s what I'm talking about!.. mad maxx “bite me” :na:

But how will it work in the creek or in the woods on the rocks with moss and dirt and crap (?) does it run as well as it looks. Looks heavy! :whistle: Are they suppose to be (?) how many motors would it have and what KV / turns should it have (?) is there a proper length advantage over another (?) :neutral: sorry I'm just clueless, but I'm doing research so that got to count for something.. lol.lol…

Thanks for your help and times guys..

MTBikerTim 08.15.2008 02:08 AM

Yeah I'm clueless as well but they do look cool and they do require 2 motors. From what I have heard they are not as good as some of the other stuff out there for crawling but they are still pretty good.

jnev 08.15.2008 02:19 AM

If you're looking to go completely custom, you may want to take a look at the RCP Hustler crawlers. :yes: Linky:
http://www.rcpcrawlers.com/home.php?cat=26

You will need to find axles to use and a couple other items as well. :yes:

TDC57 08.15.2008 02:23 AM

Josh.... Nice pull...
I've got the site in my fav now..

Thanks Sir..

MetalMan 08.15.2008 02:33 AM

It's about time...

Here are just a few of the local crawling places (I've been to all of these):
-Corona del Mar (on the beach)
-Tewinkle Memorial Park (right next to the OC Fairgrounds)
-Mile Square Park (in the dried up stream off of Edinger and Ward)
-Central Park in HB (around the lake)
-indoor crawling at RCP Crawlers in Upland

If you want to be competitive, go 2.2 class, which stands for 2.2" wheel diameter. It's all the rage right now. The best set of axles would definitely be Axials IMO, in fact I switched to them from my modified Wheely King axles and have had great luck with them.

jayjay283 08.15.2008 02:34 AM

Those Hustlers look cool, then you get to pick out everything, some fat unbreakable cnc diffs... those crawlers look huge, you could fit a couple 1521 Neus and 10s in there. Do they take points off for flying over the rocks ? j/k hardcore crawlers stop thinking of ways to lynch me with your servo winch

Man theres alot of parts for crawlers, unlimited setups- I dont know how you will decide, bad ass stuff though !!

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k.../rc4wdaxle.jpg

TDC57 08.15.2008 03:10 AM

I was hoping you would jump in Travis.. Ok the 2.2. Got it.. The sites referenced above are killer.. (Thank you, I dint have a clue that there are that many places around me to do it).. Great pull Sir.. :yes:

What about this.. (sorry for all the of the Newbie questions).. :eyes:
• Do I want to custom build it or buy a kit (?) I really don’t care about the cost, so no budget restrains
• Where can I go to read or is there a crawler magazine out that has different builds for viewing (?)
• In rock crawling I want functionality over looks right (?) IE No bling!..
• Do they use Brushed or BL motors (?)
• The batteries / lipos are different that what we use in our RC’s right (?) are they more like plane or Heli Lipos (small with low runtimes ?)
• Does weight mater (?) heavier or the lighter what is the goal (?)


Thanks for your time Sir.. and please remember to bring the tires to work tomorrow,:whistle: I’ve got to be in Simi Valley until 6:00pm so I'm hoping I can make it buy 8:00 pm..

Sunday works for me, what time do the races start (?) and should I bring my 808 or Slash (?)..:neutral:

TDC57 08.15.2008 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jayjay283 (Post 201857)
Those Hustlers look cool, then you get to pick out everything, some fat unbreakable cnc diffs... those crawlers look huge, you could fit a couple 1521 Neus and 10s in there. Do they take points off for flying over the rocks ? j/k hardcore crawlers stop thinking of ways to lynch me with your servo winch

Man theres alot of parts for crawlers, unlimited setups- I dont know how you will decide, bad ass stuff though !!

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k.../rc4wdaxle.jpg


:surprised: That bitchen and hard core too the Maxx... Great pull Jay!.. :yipi:

YOUR THE MAN...

TDC57 08.15.2008 03:14 AM

can you Please provide the Link JAY (?).. where are going to find this stuff (?).. Dam..

BlackedOutREVO 08.15.2008 03:39 AM

All I can say I CANT wait to see it done, im positive it will be amazing!

Good luck with the build Shaun!

jayjay283 08.15.2008 03:41 AM

saw it here..look at the shocks, reservoir piggybacks with a hose like on an ATV. This may be your most expensive build yet lol http://rc4wdstore.com/index.php?cPath=62

TDC57 08.15.2008 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jayjay283 (Post 201872)
This may be your most expensive build yet lol http://rc4wdstore.com/index.php?cPath=62

I like the sound of that / challenge.. :wink:

Thanks for the link Sir..:yes:


Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 201870)
All I can say I CANT wait to see it done, im positive it will be amazing!

Good luck with the build Shaun!

Thank you for the vote of confidence Sir, I'm really getting excited and these guys are will help me take it too the next level (witch is exactly were I want to go).. :yipi::yipi:

I’ll be sure to do another step-by-step on this one, OOooo I’m excited.. Yeah for me.. :lol::lol:

bustitup 08.15.2008 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDC57 (Post 201877)
I like the sound of that / challenge.. :wink:

Thanks for the link Sir..:yes:




Thank you for the vote of confidence Sir, I'm really getting excited and these guys are will help me take it too the next level (witch is exactly were I want to go).. :yipi::yipi:

I’ll be sure to do another step-by-step on this one, OOooo I’m excited.. Yeah for me.. :lol::lol:


hey man was just looking at your sig...what happened to your revo convert?

Arct1k 08.15.2008 08:57 AM

How about this instead given you live in CA and certainy like to bash!

This would be a perfect platform for a 1/5 elec conversion...

http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.p...roducts_id=851

skellyo 08.15.2008 09:21 AM

Depending on what you want to do, you should probably go dive into some heavy reading on rccrawler.com. Right now, I have 4 Axial based crawlers and wouldn't buy anything else for a 2.2 build unless it was a Berg (http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/23788). While you're looking around, be sure and check out some of my favorite brands/products:

Wheels:
Mayhem Engineering: http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103930

Creat A Crawler (CAC): http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showt...&highlight=cac

Eritex Inc: http://www.eritexinc.com

Chassis:
HBZ Warthog: http://www.hbzusa.com/WARTHOG.htm

Death Metal Garage DCV Pro: http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83451

Vendors I recommend:
RPP Hobby: http://www.rpphobby.com

RCP Crawlers: http://www.rcpcrawlers.com


Also, both amainhobbies.com and stormerhobbies.com have good selections of crawler parts too.

The biggest thing is to read a lot before you dive into your build.

GorillaMaxx360 08.15.2008 09:51 AM

Hey Shaun maybe i can help you out with these questions. I am not into crawling yet but because it might come up as a future project i have done quite a bit of research.


• Do I want to custom build it or buy a kit (?) I really don’t care about the cost, so no budget restrains it is personal preference really but i like the combination of kit and custom, that way you can start out with something to build from (especially helpful if you don't know where to start building a rock crawler) and use parts from it to make your custom rig.
• Where can I go to read or is there a crawler magazine out that has different builds for viewing (?) The sites they gave you are a good start but because it is becoming more main stream check a look at rcca every once in a while and they will have articles on Crawler tips, and it is also very helpful to talk a look at the RC crawling National rides in the magazine to know what the pros use.
• In rock crawling I want functionality over looks right (?) IE No bling!.. What is cool about rock crawling is it is all about doing what works for you, and it is all about the little tunning secrets that allow your truck to crawl better. Fortunately when building a rock crawler you need to beef it up (mainly around the axles) so "Bling" can be achieved it just may not be all bling, just the needed areas(and then there is CF)
• Do they use Brushed or BL motors (?) I like BL motors but most of the guys use lathe motors which are powerful hight torque brushed motors. Integy sells some. They used brushed because it is easer to control but it is defiantly possible to use Brushless.
• The batteries / lipos are different that what we use in our RC’s right (?) are they more like plane or Heli Lipos (small with low run times ?) yes they are smaller have a lower run times but they get an hour or two of runtime because they are always going slow. Also a lot of guys run 3s lipo so 11.1 volts to get more torque out of there motors.
• Does weight mater (?) heavier or the lighter what is the goal (?) In rock crawling weight is about 40 percent of the game. there is not one set answer for this but generally less weight at the chassis and loads of weight at the axles are the way to go. For example many use weights glued around the outer edges of the rim and on the Axel. For a general rule guys like to have more forward weight than rear.

Lastly if you are going 2.2 it would be a good idea to check out what they call a disconnect Assembly which allows you to engage and disengage 4WD to gain more or less steering.

Hope i helped, Sorry for the long rant.

kulangflow 08.15.2008 12:00 PM

Definitely check out the Berg axles that Sean referenced. I've had a few crawlers, but if I were building something totally new for competition, it would definitely have the Berg axles.

The people I know who have switched from an Axial comp rig to a Berg comp rig have all noticed a difference due to the lower CoG and built-in "clod-stall" that assists with steep vertical climbs. I'm not going to switch from my Axial comp rig, but if I did it would be Berg.

If you want something a bit less capable but a lot cooler (scale), then check out the Tamiya LandCruiser crawler (aka CR-01). That might very well be my next kit just for fun crawls.

TexasSP 08.15.2008 01:58 PM

Linc has one of those and seems pleased with it. I would hit him up. I also like 2c4wd's scale crawlers which can use the tamiya bodies.

rc4x4nut 08.15.2008 05:50 PM

Visit http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/and look over at some of the builds to see what you would like to build and go from there. You will also get some ideas of parts that you will need.

TDC57 08.19.2008 01:29 AM

WOW you guys are all SO FRICKEN ASSUME or should I say ###ume (?) LOL.LOL..

Tons of great information.. GM360 – DAM SIR.. Thank you!! That was a huge help..

I spent a good part the weekend (when I wasn’t playing dad) doing research, LOTS of fricken research. (I'm now on two other forums) and I joined the So-Cal Rock basher club.. http://socalrcrc.org and had to add another folder in my fav just for Rock Crawling (it’s a whole world by itself).. Who new (?)

Anyway, every time I would added up the numbers (parts) on all of the different builds I'm entertaining, I kept coming up to the same dam number (over 2K), over 2k, OVER 2K… AAAAaaaHHHHhhaaaa.. So I looked around and realized I have too many toys and It’s time for some to go.. So I posted up my trade offer (808 Pro E RTR) on a few site for a killer Rock Crawler (TRADE) IE one of my 2k+ builds for one of your 2k Rock crawlers.

So far I’ve got one strong yes and one I'm waiting for pictures on anther.

If you have the time please review what I have up on the table now / will be looking at later this week. I really value ALL of your opinions. Or if you have a bitchen RC that you would like to offer up as a trade for something I’ve got let me know (?)

Thank you all for your time!..

Shaun.

Here is the replay I received”

Hmmmmmm
Well lets see. I have a custom state of the art 2.2 crawler you might be interested in.
Axial base, although all thats left of it is the axle housings
Blackjack chassis, with custom gusset and skid plate
RC4WD R2D trans with Rocksmith teflon shift bushings for dig
Holmes hobbies Crawler sport brushless outrunner, 1000kv
RCP Alum c's
RCP alum knuckles
Rocksmith titanium lockers front and rear
Rocksmith titanium links all around, lowers, uppers and steer, with axial rod ends
RCP rear alum lockouts
RCP SS one peice axles for rear
MSD Six shooter billet beadlocks with Proline badlands and NWtractech memory foams
Stock axial wheels cut and narrowed with new Losi claws and foams
TCS Rear upper 4 link plate, alum
TCS front upper 4 link plate delrin
TCS front 3 link bracket, alum
custom radio and electronice plates
Jato drivelines
TCS dig servo mount
JR 8711 servo for steer
Hi-tech 645mg for dig
CC external bec w/programmer module
Losi crawler shocks built as droop setup with internal springs 35w fr,40w rr.50w lr

Plus tons of stock parts, shock, links, springs and more stuff than I can post. Plus the stock chassis, extra tires and on and on.

This is a national level crawler right from the get go. It is used and scratched up a bit, but I am a machinist and all the inner working are immaculent. Would even include 2 containers of my patent pending GearJelly with the deal.

My build thread can be found here.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showt...inest+insanity

Let me know what ya think.........

MetalMan 08.19.2008 02:06 AM

Aww, building it's half the fun :sleep:. Although that is one loaded crawler...

ffactory666 08.19.2008 06:06 AM

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Best forum on crawling by far http://www.rccrawler.com/ heaps of info for you to research .
Pitty i just sold this custom tube crawler last night , you would of just had to put it together and put your elecs in there , i had the Axial axles , links , shocks , tires etc.

ffactory666 08.19.2008 06:12 AM

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My next project will be based on a Proffits crawler . Proffits make 1:1 Landcruiser crawlers in the US .

The guy who built this tube chassis which is also based on a Proffits cruiser is building my chassis.

ffactory666 08.19.2008 06:19 AM

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This is the 1:1 Proffits cruiser that my crawler will be based on .
Any questions just ask , i use to compete in RC Crawling down here in Australia but most questions will be answered if you go to the forum i linked .

TDC57 08.20.2008 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffactory666 (Post 203308)
This is the 1:1 Proffits cruiser that my crawler will be based on .
Any questions just ask , i use to compete in RC Crawling down here in Australia but most questions will be answered if you go to the forum i linked .


WOW is that yours :gasp: that thing is BAD AZZ... Thanks for link, those guys there are just / well almost as knowledgeable as we are here.. :lol::lol:

I'm looking forward to your next build.. Please post it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalMan (Post 203269)
Aww, building it's half the fun :sleep:. Although that is one loaded crawler...

Agreed but I'm short on funds and long on builds / spars gathering dust.. And I hopping to just jump right in and start to have some, were going RTR or RTR..


Thanks for your time gentlemen..

Have a great week..

TDC57 08.20.2008 04:23 AM

Here are some pictures I recently received..:whistle:


http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...f/P8190578.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...f/P8190579.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...f/P8190580.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...f/P8190584.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...f/P8190583.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...f/P8190582.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...f/P8190581.jpg

Now this is just the rig and not all that will come with her. Extra shocks, links, chassis, parts and peices and a new Losi crowd pleaser body that I never painted......

Arct1k 08.20.2008 06:02 AM

Honestly you build V nice rigs - I think you would be VERY dissapointed (and I would be) if you went down the prebuilt route...

We won't get shots of lots of nice parts - Build from scratch! You know you want to!

skellyo 08.20.2008 10:42 AM

If it were me, I'd start with an Axial AX10 ARTR and build it up from there. It's super easy to use as a platform to build off of and parts are readily available for it. It also allows you to ease into crawling and build upon a solid base of a vehicle without having to jump in with both feet and a big credit card.

bustitup 08.20.2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 203755)
If it were me, I'd start with an Axial AX10 ARTR and build it up from there. It's super easy to use as a platform to build off of and parts are readily available for it. It also allows you to ease into crawling and build upon a solid base of a vehicle without having to jump in with both feet and a big credit card.

great advice unless you have bottomless pockets....looks like an awesome platform to get your feet wet in crawling

btw what part of fl you in skellyo?...i'm in Jupiter

skellyo 08.20.2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bustitup (Post 203759)
btw what part of fl you in skellyo?...i'm in Jupiter

I'm in Orlando.

MetalMan 08.21.2008 12:21 AM

Damn, that is one fine crawler. It's got some nice parts for sure. Those wheels are some of the best BTW, $100 a set, and they are the EXACT ones on my crawler. Only thing I'd do differently is the body...

lincpimp 08.21.2008 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 201989)
Linc has one of those and seems pleased with it. I would hit him up. I also like 2c4wd's scale crawlers which can use the tamiya bodies.

Not too sure if TDC wants to compete or just bash (not going to read the entire thread...)

If you want to bash and play, the Tamiya cr-01 landcruiser is great. I currently have a novah crawler esc with a 13.5 motor in it. Good speed. 13mph or so, and it crawls very well with the sensored motor/esc. I have 4 wheel steering, and a few mixes setup thru the M11. Great kit, fun to put together, and looks to be very upgradeable. Plus you can get great runtimes with a 2s 8k true rc pack!!!

I have only change one part so far, the stock slider style driveshafts suck, but electric pede sliders fit right in and can handle everyhting I can throw at the truck. I really beat this truck up, and it keeps coming back for more.

TDC57 08.21.2008 04:39 AM

Well I'm going out to look and drive it tomorrow, well see.. :neutral:

Here is some video of it!. :mdr:

http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w...rrent=run2.flv


Looks like it can crawl :whistle:

TDC57 08.21.2008 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bustitup (Post 203759)
great advice unless you have bottomless pockets....


Mine are all filled wtih bills at the moment,:lol: I dont have jack swat to spend on a new project..:no: Reality bites.. :eyes:

kulangflow 08.21.2008 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 203998)
If you want to bash and play, the Tamiya cr-01 landcruiser is great. Great kit, fun to put together, and looks to be very upgradeable. Plus you can get great runtimes with a 2s 8k true rc pack!!!

I have only change one part so far, the stock slider style driveshafts suck, but electric pede sliders fit right in and can handle everyhting I can throw at the truck. I really beat this truck up, and it keeps coming back for more.

Great endorsement! I just picked up a CR-01 myself. Now I just need time to put it together! I really hate the Phillips head screws though. Do you know if someone makes an Allen's head kit for it?

What's_nitro? 08.21.2008 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDC57 (Post 204046)
Well I'm going out to look and drive it tomorrow, well see.. :neutral:

Here is some video of it!. :mdr:

http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w...rrent=run2.flv


Looks like it can crawl :whistle:

That is a nice crawler. One day I will have one too. :cry:

PS: I love that song!!! :great:


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