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Losi 8IGHT Brushless Kit and ESC/Motor Combos
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Wouldn't mind knowing what that ESC is rated at
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wow, losi is cranking them out, wonder how good the motors are
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Looks like god sent a rival to compete with the MMM. Hope the specs are up to par.
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i still think with losi's recent release of hard shell 4s lipos, i doubt it willl be a contender with the MMM, maybe the MM though.
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The motor/esc combos are on there site... 3-5 cell lipo
http://www.losi.com/Products/Feature...rodId=LOSB9557 |
God, I wonder when it'll be out. Looks to be a good MMM contender. Just wish it would handle 6s. 150a cont and 720a peak is pretty good. Im dying to have the esc.
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Im going to back order it here in a few days. But Im having 2nd thought on the MMM.....
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I wouldn't trust it, or anything from losi ever again. I had two stock MLST2's - both of them would thermal in total stock configuration, right out of the box, if I drove them hard (not even that hard). I asked Losi about it expecting maybe for them to at least try and diagnose the problem. Their solution: The ESC shuts down to protect it from overheating if you draw to much current, try not to use full throttle from a standstill.
After dropping a Mamba 25 system in one of them I understood why they were trying to limit the power so much. I will NEVER trust in or spend a cent on anything made by Team Losi again. Absolutely pathetic. CC on the other hand have usually at least met, and exceeded my expectation of any of there products or customer service. The exception being that 2 of 5 BECs I bought were faulty out of the pack. |
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It's great that a big name company like Losi has finally gotten the hint about how popular electric 1/8th has become.
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I like that the ESC comes with a programming card. It will be interesting to see how it holds up.
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Cool, they have a $80 conv kit too for the 8. That motor mount looks suprizingly similar.....
Does anyone see the the esc only price? It just may come out before the MMM does. Novak is the one really screwed here tho. The HV system just looks like a dinosaur. I don't understand what they are doing trying to milk that thing out w/ "5mm upgrade" kits when now the OEMs have better controllers. Nice going losi (and nice to see they got it out before TRX ;) ) |
Interesting looking stuff! I'm surprised that Losi have released this kind of system so quickly, but here it is. Sensible-looking motor KVs too, though they won't match the CC Neu for efficiency.
I just wonder who REALLY design and make that ESC, though... |
looks like the ones on hobbycity... and they are 1/2 the price there... but the larger ones dont exist on their site yet.... perhaps soon
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Anyone know how makes the Lipo Batteries for Losi? |
They are all on horizon now with pricing.
http://search.horizonhobby.com/index...d=11BE23513ECA $189 for the esc only and $334 for the esc/motor combo. Not bad. Might look into testing one. Looks like its designed for racing, nothing more than 5s is needed for racing. Looks solid from the specs. I cant seem to find dimensions on the esc. Id like to kow how big. it sounds like what I wanted from CC. A MM that supports 5s and a built in switching BEC. If its not much bigger than a MM (it looks like it wont be) it should be a very nice choice for a race setup. Lutach will be disapointed with only 5s. :lol: |
looks like from the motor combos and voltage limits they are shooting for motor rpms arond 25,000. Not very high. but most likely very eficient and cool running. Also based on those rpms and the 15T and 16T pionin an45T spur that is suppiled in ther conversion kit they are targeting speeds of only around 35mph. Very tack oriented looking sertup IMO. 35mph is probably not going to satisfy the basher.
Looking forward to seeing how it works out for them. This will certainly mean that the losi guys will have an easy path to the electric side. and I'm gonna bet that the winter racing scene indoors this year is littered with electric Losis. It looks like a total no brainer drop in system. Just buy the losi battery, esc, motor, and conversion kit. In a way I am disapointed though. Everyone was hoping for a buggy designd from the ground up for electric power, at least thats what I was hoping to see from Losi. This is nothing more than a factory branded conversion kit. Not really different from what has already been available from RCmonster and others for a long time. Good to see the big guys gettting into the game. Still... I think I was hoping for a bigger splash. Still need to buy a nitro roller and toss out the nitro related bits. I wonder if they have an Eight-E Race Roller planned for the near future, or even an Eight-E RTR. |
Motors are 4 pole like the Neu and Plet so the esc should run a Neu just fine.
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Today is a historic day for Electric RC! Losi has redeemed themselves (in my eyes)! Let the deluge of Electric 1/8th racing popularity begin!
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Quote From Todd Hodge The ESC accepts up to 5S, with all of our testing we have found that 4S is the best all around battery to use. |
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Very tempted to try this setup |
I read it in one of the spec sheets somewhere on horizon. I cant find it again now. It was the 2nd line of the motor spec right below the 720 motor size spec. I know I'm not crazy... :tongue: I know I read it somewhere, now I gotta keep searching.
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Now if they can just get rid of all the imperial screws in their kits and go all metric..lol. Very nice and nice price. Really looks like a good setup. Wonder what the drivibility will be like? I'm sure an all E will eventually come out, but this makes the most sense. Its easy to do so they get it out fast, and the 8 is already huge so lots can make the jump and not a bunch of new parts to have to be supported. It make take a bit more popularity to get a dedicated 1/8th E kit, but BL has grown so much so fast it won't take long. |
It is interesting that it is going to be using motor braking.
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Why on earth is the motor by itself 180 bucks (even if it's 4 poles, it's still gotta have something significant going on in there- Medusas are only about 120 IIRC for the 60mm versions and they're great motors!)? I wonder what diameter this "720 size" motor is (hopefully that nomenclature is not just a marketing scheme, and really denotes a larger-than-540 diameter size). If it's the same diameter as a Dewalt 700 motor....that'd be SICKENING torque.:gasp:
In fact, that size motor would probably be ideal for these conversions; far less stress on the motor with such a large potential rotor. |
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found it http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=900834 |
The motor diameter has me confused as well... We need some clarification for sure. For a race buggy a 540 diameter (36mm) is plenty. A 720 would be what, 45mm? That's way too much weight for a buggy.
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I dont know this for sure but I suspect the 720 motor means its 72mm long like a Feigao XL motor. Its probably 36mm diameterx 72mm long.
Just a guess, but it makes sense in my easilly confused brain. |
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This kit looks cool. I just picked up a losi 8 kit roller that is super clean. I was going to use a rcp motor mount and make the rest myself, but the losi setup looks too nice to pass up...
I will run a hacker and a MM in mine, alot cheaper than the losi setup. Nice to see more stuff available in the larger scale brushless dept. |
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So let's recap what we supposedly know about this motor; 19 series sized, 4 poles, and low kv. The description "torque monster" comes to mind.... |
My guess is that jhautz is correct. It isn't going to be a 45mm can cause that is huge.
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If it runs well and the fan doesn't break this esc will be a hit and for only a bit more than the MMM . |
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Just blew up the picture of the esc from the Horizon site . It looks like the fan is intergrated into some kind of heatsink which wraps around the esc and this has the mounting tabs attached to it ?
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ffactory - There was a diagram posted somewhere on the forum that shows exactly what you said. Using those 4 mounting tabs, it mounts straight to a another mount on the chassis. As long as those tabs on the ESC are metal, it should be a very durable and secure way of mounting the ESC. :yes:
EDIT: I didn't find the post, but here is the exploded view of how the ESC is mounted: http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/8IGHTEexplode2.pdf That a very clever design of how the gear mesh is adjusted too. :yes: I actually like that better because you can loosen only one screw instead of loosening two in a very awkward position. While looking there, I also found the body for the "E-8ight": http://www.losi.com/Products/Feature...rodId=LOSA8097 Although not much info on it... |
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