Crawler
 

I see some people run the juagernuat. Other people have a clod buster. What is the difference between the two? They look alike to me. I have only seen pics of them as well. I like to know which is better. I want to build me something pretty and not really a speed demon. I love the way they look over other trucks. I think cause they so realistic looking.

What i would do is search for the exploded views of both trucks.

Ryan has got some of those beauties on his site here

Here is another site with some vids and a custom chassis.:eek:

I was checking out the beauties ryan has. I think the look so close the the real thing. I had a site the used to have right many parts for them as well. thanks ya'll

I was looking at the difference. I notice the clod has the motor mounted on the rears like a stampede. The juggernuat has the motor mount to a tranny like an emaxx. Can run an emaxx tranny in one. :cool: is this the case or is there more.

i would look to pay ALOT!!!!!!!!! a new jugg and clod sold on ebay for like $1400.

Dude that is kind of high. I have found one for 600 shipped to me brand new. Hey squee do you know if that is the difference of is there more.

i think that is the only MAJOR difference. but then again i am not a clod or jugg expert.

I have found a few around. Seems the juggernaut was dicontinued. That really sucks. Is there another truck in production that is built like them. I don't want to get something that is not in production and the parts are going to be like hard to find. I need to find some juggernaut peoples. Does some one no of a site for after market parts for these. The place I found sells custom made chassis. I may have to email him. Any other help would be appreciated thanks all.

The TXT (by Tamiya) also has a center transmission like the Juggy.

Wait for Dabid to come on, he will fill you in on the crawler info. :)

I'm here, whaddya want? :D

Clodbusters are unique because they're one of the few trucks that have the motors mounted right on the axle, like this:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/4718/DSC01969.jpg

This is my truck:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/4718/DSC01966.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/4718/DSC01965.jpg

True, as MetalMan said, TXT's and Juggernauts (and Jugg. 2's, the second edition of the Jugg) have center trannies with driveshafts that go down to the axles. This is the major difference between Clods and the ones with trannies, and defines the two different types of basic crawlers: Clods, and "shafties". I would go with a Clod as a first crawler, that way you don't have to worry about driveshaft length and stuff.......:D

Oh yeah, head over to www.rccrawler.com if you need any help.

I think the shafties look a little better. Well not reall better but more 1;1. I don't really have a place to crawl. I want to build like a beauty. I have to search my options more. Thanks for all the help. Does any one no of a good site to get aluminum stuff for these trucks. I build one out of parts if I can. Like my maxx.

I have a clod, jugg2 and a txt1 myself. The clod is the better crawler hands down(none are stock, mind you), but the jugg2 and txt1 definately look more realistic. I haven't played with them in quite a while, though. I have an -emaxx tranny conversion kit for the txt1(still haven't mounted it, though!). Jugg2 is no longer in production, so I wouldn't build one to use, but thentxt1 is the same basic truck, but with a much better chassis and suspesnion design(stock vs. stock). Sounds like the truck for you, Leroy.

So you think the txt 1 or a clod? I like the txt 1. Some one made aluminum rears for them. I can't seem to find them. I found aluminum rears for the clod.

From what you say I think the TXT-1 is for you too. I have one that really got this whole Monster Truck thing going for me, along with a modded Juggy. The TXT really is a thing of beauty in design, assembly, and scale looks. With that aside though, I haven't played with either of mine since I got an Emaxx a couple of years ago. I thought about pulling it out last summer but never got around to it. Maybe this winter inside since I have 4 wheel steering for it and that works better for inside, but when it comes down to to it for me, speed, turns, and big jumps are what I like, and the crawler, well it only crawls! :p

I would have to disagree, a Clod is a born crawler, and few mods are needed to get it going. TXT's and other shafties make you have to figure out driveshaft angles and how to minimize chassis twist (common problem with shafties, it was gosh awful with my TXT), and still have it crawl good. Also, a Clod can do something that a shaftie has yet to be able to counter: a stick chassis. Unparalelled center clearence and super low weight in a single package, both are readily availible with a Clod because of the independant gearboxes. The weight is already down low because of where the motors are, so you don't have to worry as much about the center of gravity.

Any more questions? Feel free to PM or post them up! :D

I planning on building the truck more for looks than rock crawling there dabid. I can understand what you are saying. The txt is so life like. The clod with the motor on rears are no as life like. If you know what I am saying. It is not something that I am going to rush as well. I figure some thing out. I thank you all for the input and sites.

Dude, I had a TXT, would have taken way too much work to get that thing going as a crawler, even to make it a basher would have taken quite a bit. When I say the chassis twist was gosh awful, I mean it: running 10 cells on my Super Chicken to make it kinda cool would make the chassis flop from side to side with every throttle input......looked terrible on top of giving bad performance. Plus, that truck had such a high cg and narrow track, it'd flip over just taking a turn too tight.

Whatever you plan to do, you'll most likely have to do some kind of basic mods. First off, go with a 15" MINIMUM wheelbase, preferably 16" for me, helps out so much when you're wheeling. Just ask about anything else, crawler tech isn't that hard, and most can be done in your garage too.

If you're making a big scale rig, I would go with a clod. If you're making a 2.2 crawler, go with a shafty.

I made my first crawler, Bergsteiger, about a year ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...d/DSC00763.jpg
It was alright, but the rear links were too long causing the rear gearbox to get stuck on rocks.

Then, I made a TLT:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/...T/DSC01336.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/...T/DSC01356.jpg
But, I cut corners, so consequently, it sucked.

Then, I made Bergsteiger Zweite, which used the same axles as the first one, but had some major mods (behind the axle steering, new chassis, cut tires):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...d/DSC01989.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...h/DSC02046.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...h/DSC02047.jpg
It worked pretty good, but the motors were crap, so I sold it to get a MT2. I kinda regret it, but I know I'll get another crawler eventually.

If you want to build something "pretty" you may want to check these sites. A little pricy but nice looking!
www.inerbeecrew.com
http://www.nowinghobby.ye.ro/shop

What kind of controller does everyone run? I would assume a 4 channel for the rear steering.

My crawler "project".
[IMG]http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/3105/img15924bg.jpg[/IMG]

From what I can tell people are using 3 channel with the rear servo turning the rear wheels in opposite direction of the front in standard mode and this site has a mod for a 3 position toggle to lock out rear steering or switch the rears to turn in same direction as the fronts for "crabwalk". I can't tell you from experience because I haven't gotten to the point of actually having a running truck.
http://thecrawlerstore.com

I love the way crawlers look. I can't look. I drool to much. :D
You all are trying to get me into it. I want to too.

I got hooked just by cheking out some of the vid on the inerbeecrew site. I actually bought the crawler chassis before I ran across this site and have been buying BL parts for my trucks but am still working on getting my crawler up and running during the winter:)

rkman, hate to tell you this, but those front and rear bumpers are going to kill any kind of performance, they'll hit the rocks before your tires. If you're just building more of a pretty truck, it's okay, but I went as far as doing behind the axle steering on the front to get the best possible approach at any time. My servo mounts are rock solid too, they're tied into the axle braces and aren't going anywhere without having the axle ripped in two.

I personally run my MX-3 on my Clod, and use the 3rd channel to ghetto steer the rear. It's only a toggle switch, so the rear is either all left or all right, with no in between straight. Nice thing about having it independant from the front (even if it isn't the best way to do it), is that you can just swing the rear when taking on something, or crab walk (all 4 wheels pointed in one direction) to hit it from a different angle.

For a "controller" though, I run the tried and true Super Rooster with dual Integy 55x1 comm lathe motors wired in parallel.

If i built a crawler i would use a clod, because i could use two esc, that way i could set one up to run the front axle and one to run the rear axle kind of like the dual transfer case setups in real crawlers

That could be very doible. Get a four channel radio with daul stick. Left be the foard back left and right for the front and the right one be the same for rear. That way you would pull the front end around some. You run the dual transfer case in a 1;1 for lower gearing. You run the dana 300 with twin stick for the difference in ratios. If this helps you. You can also do the np 205 trans fer case.

I would like to have both:D Pretty and functional that is.
But I haven't had the chance to try it out yet.
I'll take your word for it since you have actual crawling experience.
There are some cool vids of the chasis on the inerbeecrew site that shows the chassis working pretty well on some crawling but who knows how many times they tried. I think if I get some large diameter tires it should help the bumpers clearance some.
Thanks for the input.

In the worst case you could still modify the front bumper area, rkman. The chassis itself looks very nice! One of the more attractive designs I've ever seen. Don't know about its performance, but it looks awesome.

If I would build a crawler for actual rock crawling, I would also go for a clod design.
I have seen this torque-twisting on vids, and it's not a nice thing to see.

also, I liked Camels Bergsteiger2. (Still can't believe you sold it)

I should have made a vid of my TXT during the short month or two I had it, but I don't think we had our camera yet.

I seen a maxx crawler that was tight looking. I can not find the site no more. Can some one point me to a maxx conversion kit. I like to convert a emaxx to a crawler.

Would it by any chance be the one that RcBro did?

I've never seen a kit for the maxx axles,just home builts,any TXT chassis will take the tranny with the mounting plates.

I've got some ideas in mind for this chassis as a shaftyhttp://www.junfac.com/conversion_r1.htm

Here's my crawler

http://www.rcbros.com/uploads/images/rcbro/rc_488.jpg

Cool. I like that. How does it do rc brother? I seen you was building one on your forum. I hadn't been back to see if you finished.

I'm waiting on some new shock mounts that connect on the links then I'll be able to know for sure.

With crawlers the links and suspension are everything and they keep sliding so I can't do much till my mounts arrive.

Seems like plenty of power but I still may get another motor just for added power. Articulation may be to much but its hard to say until I get my mounts.

I'll have some video when its done.

Cool on the video. Well I thought about if you have to. You can put some of the hb truggy diffs in it for really make it crawl. But not sure how you would hook the slider up to it. What all do you have in yours motor wise and stuff?

that is a sweet looking crawler

If you are still intrested. You should look at the SW2 chassis from Bender. It uses slider shafts from a Emaxx, a stampede transmission, and TLT axles. You end up with a really nice 1:10 scale truck that is really capible of crawling and looking nice. Go to www.thecrawlerstore.com to check it out.

As for a controller I have a stock Traxxas TQ3 from a Emaxx. I changed the wiring inside the controller so that the red toggle switch works as a on/off switch and sent the power to two pots I mounted at the top of the controller. One is used for end point so the servo doesn't get to much power. The other is used as a independent rear "steering wheel". It is by far the best "bang-for-buck" crawler controller.

~john