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lutach 09.15.2008 02:38 PM

Testing a couple of 1/10 120A ESC (Pictures of the 200A is in here too)
 
Hi all,

I've been testing a couple of 120A ESC that can be used in sensored or sensorless mode. I've tested one unit with a Mamba 5700 and now I'm running a 5.5T sensored motor. It's been going great so far. The other unit is in my TC3T and I have a HV4.5 motor in the truggy and it's been doing great as well. I have just received my 200A ESC with the same sensored/sensorless technology and it'll be used in my 2S Speed Run try with the HV1.5 and/or HV2.5 motors. Here are a few pictures, hope you all like them:
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC01317.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC01318.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC01319.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC01321.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC01323.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC01325.jpg

t-maxxracer32 09.15.2008 02:44 PM

those look like very nice quality ESCs

great job

BrianG 09.15.2008 02:48 PM

What's the voltage rating?

lutach 09.15.2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-maxxracer32 (Post 212831)
those look like very nice quality ESCs

great job

Yes, they look good and they work good too. I have posted other pictures of the 120A one in the other thread if anyone would like to see the inside and all.

lutach 09.15.2008 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 212833)
What's the voltage rating?

Brian,

They are for 3S lipos, but I can get the manufacturer to make a software to handle up to 6S lipos. The MOSFETs are rated for 30V and are the same as in the Hobbywing Xerun 120A.

BrianG 09.15.2008 03:18 PM

What's with the dual throttle cable output? I like the fact that it's a plug rather than a pigtail...

lutach 09.15.2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 212848)
What's with the dual throttle cable output? I like the fact that it's a plug rather than a pigtail...

Dual throttle cable?

BrianG 09.15.2008 03:57 PM

Well, probably not a dual throttle, but that's what it looks like:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC01319.jpg

The first two slots look like throttle cables, followed by a fan lead, and then the sensor port....

EDIT: NVM, I see in another pic it's a switch lead. The three wire switch confused me. :oops:

Takedown 09.15.2008 04:56 PM

Looks great lutach. Best of luck with them.

lutach 09.15.2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 212860)
The first two slots look like throttle cables, followed by a fan lead, and then the sensor port....

EDIT: NVM, I see in another pic it's a switch lead. The three wire switch confused me. :oops:

It actually three wires because of the program button is where the on/off switch is. The other one is for the fan and then there's a place for the sensor connector.

lutach 09.15.2008 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 212876)
Looks great lutach. Best of luck with them.

I hope the 200A ESC works well.

Takedown 09.15.2008 06:24 PM

Also sorry to say but I dropped your offer on the brushless 1/5 combo. Money is super tight and I dont want to put my giant brushed scooter motor to waste after just buying it. Ill explain more to you on msn "windows" messanger.

lutach 09.15.2008 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 212921)
Also sorry to say but I dropped your offer on the brushless 1/5 combo. Money is super tight and I dont want to put my giant brushed scooter motor to waste after just buying it. Ill explain more to you on msn "windows" messanger.

No problem. If the stuff comes in, I'll just put something together for it.

snellemin 09.15.2008 10:30 PM

The 200A got my attention. I have a sensored 4star LRP and a 5s power hungry hacker waiting for a compatible ESC. I was looking at the new Tekin sensored brushless esc's as an option.

lutach 09.15.2008 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 213031)
The 200A got my attention. I have a sensored 4star LRP and a 5s power hungry hacker waiting for a compatible ESC. I was looking at the new Tekin sensored brushless esc's as an option.

It got my attention as well :lol:. I tested the controller today and wow. I don't know if it was me going nuts, but my KX-One seemed faster with it then with it's little brother.

snellemin 09.16.2008 04:24 PM

If you can get the 6s capable feature to work on the 200A one, you will have another buyer. Could you pm me the est. price?

lutach 09.16.2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 213233)
If you can get the 6s capable feature to work on the 200A one, you will have another buyer. Could you pm me the est. price?

I'm not 100% sure if this units can handle 6S though. I'll have to actually get another test unit to see if it does. This are meant for 1/10 scale and as we can see, 2S lipos seems to be the standard for racing and this were meant for racing. I'm not going to get prices for the 200A yet as I need to test it. I did find a little problem with reverse that needs to be addressed, but everything else works like it should. I have the 200A ESC set for forward/brake only now.

lutach 09.18.2008 03:55 PM

Here is a video of the 200A ESC in action. I'm using my old Kyosho KX-One and it's geared for torque so it's not fast at all plus my rear diff is slipping a bit.

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tom255 10.11.2008 02:43 PM

Hi Lutach
I found and bought on ebay with exaclty same footprint ESC but different brand than SP or Feigao. And its rated 100A. Is it support 4S lipo with UBEC? Did you tried it on 4S?

lutach 10.11.2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom255 (Post 221610)
Hi Lutach
I found and bought on ebay with exaclty same footprint ESC but different brand than SP or Feigao. And its rated 100A. Is it support 4S lipo with UBEC? Did you tried it on 4S?

I will try 4S soon with my drag car. You have to disable the BEC to run 4S. Did yours come with the program card or you had to buy it separately? I know one other guys from Spain that bought one, but the company sold him the wrong program card and they didn't offer the program card that is supposed to work with the ESC.

stum 10.11.2008 11:04 PM

I'm about to buy a MM w/ BEC unless someone can hook me up with directions to one of these truck esc's. 120-200a would be nice... this is for my soon to be completed Losi 8ight-T tekno conversion. I'm running a neu 1515 1.5d in it... 4s lipo config

lutach 10.12.2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stum (Post 221704)
I'm about to buy a MM w/ BEC unless someone can hook me up with directions to one of these truck esc's. 120-200a would be nice... this is for my soon to be completed Losi 8ight-T tekno conversion. I'm running a neu 1515 1.5d in it... 4s lipo config

The above mentioned ESCs are for 1/10 scale and not for 1/8 scale. The software that they have is best suited for 2 pole motors unless some manufactures are willing to do a 4 pole motor with sensors.

BL_RV0 10.12.2008 12:20 PM

I might get one. After my HV Hyper ST is done, It looks like I'm getting bl-is-future's Hyper 7. I found a great deal on a 8xl, and will run on 4s. Your 120a ESC looks like it'll work well for my needs.

lutach 10.12.2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 221780)
I might get one. After my HV Hyper ST is done, It looks like I'm getting bl-is-future's Hyper 7. I found a great deal on a 8xl, and will run on 4s. Your 120a ESC looks like it'll work well for my needs.

My 1/10 ESCs will work fine with the Novak HV motors. I will try the 200A with 4S lipos to see how it does and I'll post something here.

BL_RV0 10.12.2008 12:25 PM

I'm not a novak fan. Not a fan of novak's fans or novak's fan club for their fans. :lol:

lutach 10.12.2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 221785)
I'm not a novak fan. Not a fan of novak's fans or novak's fan club for their fans. :lol:

Well, I wasn't a fan of Novak, but now with the 2 motors they built and the Velocity 4.5R kicking some butt, I can find myself liking them. I will soon be making some speed runs with the HV2.5 and later the HV1.5 motors. I hope they do good, because I plan on making a worl setting drag car to use the HV2.5 motor in. Picture this, if the 4.5R does good in drag racing, then the HV2.5 will be a killer. I'll try to be the first into the 1.1 or bellow.

BL_RV0 10.12.2008 12:39 PM

What KV is the HV1.5?

lutach 10.12.2008 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 221792)
What KV is the HV1.5?

12,600.

BL_RV0 10.12.2008 01:47 PM

:surprised:

e-mike 10.12.2008 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 221782)
I will try the 200A .

what is the brand of this esc?????im looking for one...but i dont know where i could buy one unit...

lutach 10.12.2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-mike (Post 221832)
what is the brand of this esc?????im looking for one...but i dont know where i could buy one unit...

You'll be able to get one from me soon.

e-mike 10.12.2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 221843)
You'll be able to get one from me soon.


nice!!!!!im waiting....anyway we dont really know when the v3 come out....:yes:i have a 35amps version (similar to your esc,case,wire)and work great!!!!!the 200amps should do the same....

lutach 10.12.2008 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-mike (Post 221847)
nice!!!!!im waiting....anyway we dont really know when the v3 come out....:yes:i have a 35amps version (similar to your esc,case,wire)and work great!!!!!the 200amps should do the same....

I would like to see pictures of that 35A ESC. I know the eZRun kind of looks like it, but it's a bite smaller. Here is a picture of the Recoil my sponsored driver is using with the eZRun 35A ESC (Here is the link for it http://www.hobbywing.com/english/Art...rticleID=411):

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC01474.jpg

e-mike 10.12.2008 06:33 PM

right this is a ezrun unit!!!!!....so the ezrun line esc stop to 120amps max amps

lutach 10.12.2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-mike (Post 221896)
right this is a ezrun unit!!!!!....so the ezrun line esc stop to 120amps max amps

The eZRun line are sensorless only and my ESCs will be sensored/sensorless. The 60A eZRun has a burst of 360A and Artur (GriffinRU) is modding mine and he said they can easily do 100A with the mods he did.

e-mike 10.12.2008 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 221904)
modding mine and he said they can easily do 100A with the mods he did.

:surprised:

tom255 10.13.2008 04:10 AM

Lutach
Did you tried run your Sensored/Sensorles ESC with 4 pole motor, Its interesting how it runs... I have MedUSA motor and think to use ESC with that motor.

And second question about Ez-Run Line ESC's, do you know how Arthur will mod your 60amp ESC? Improove cooling and some caps or he will stack to parralel two FET boards?

I have 60amp Ez-Run ESC too, but afraid to use it on buggy conversion yet. If he stack fet boards maybe I will do same, buy one Ez-Rune ESC additionaly. But wants to see how he do that...

lutach 10.13.2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom255 (Post 222029)
Lutach
Did you tried run your Sensored/Sensorles ESC with 4 pole motor, Its interesting how it runs... I have MedUSA motor and think to use ESC with that motor.

And second question about Ez-Run Line ESC's, do you know how Arthur will mod your 60amp ESC? Improove cooling and some caps or he will stack to parralel two FET boards?

I have 60amp Ez-Run ESC too, but afraid to use it on buggy conversion yet. If he stack fet boards maybe I will do same, buy one Ez-Rune ESC additionaly. But wants to see how he do that...

I did a bench test, but it was with the first 100A unit that I was having trouble with the software. It spun my Neu and my 6 pole motor. I couldn't do a road test because I don't have anything with a higher Kv at the moment.

He'll improve cooling. I asked him if we could add anoter FET boards and he said it wouldn't be needed.

One of my driver used the 60A in his ZX5 with out any issues (it's 1/10th scale though and the 60A might not have the grunt to run the 1/8 scale conversions), but he used the motr that came with the system. All I know is that the eZRun line can drive 4 and 6 pole motors with no problem. Just make sure you set the right timing. I'm running the 35A version in my Recoil with my own 4 pole 6000Kv motor, but the motor is only 24mm in diameter. I ran the 60A with my Mega ACn16/15/1 (9200Kv) and it was fantastic. I'm also going to try the eZRun 35A with my own 7500 and 9000Kv 4 pole motor.

tom255 10.13.2008 09:31 AM

I have tested Ezrun 60A esc too on 4S with UBEC and with my 4Pole MedUSA Motor, and it ran fine on my HPI Sprint 2, smooth and powerful. But Not tested yet on 1/8 buggy. Maybe I will do that soon.

lutach 10.13.2008 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom255 (Post 222067)
I have tested Ezrun 60A esc too on 4S with UBEC and with my 4Pole MedUSA Motor, and it ran fine on my HPI Sprint 2, smooth and powerful. But Not tested yet on 1/8 buggy. Maybe I will do that soon.

That would probably be too much for the little guy. The way I treat my ESC is this. If it rates it for 60A, I try to get a burst or spike of 60A only and after the vehicle gets rolling, I won't see those spike anyways. A lot of people think most ESC can do their rated current continuous, but they really can't specially when they are not designed by a Thermal Engineer. The 200A sensored ESC or example have gone to 178A and that's only spikes.


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