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ANGRY-ALIEN 09.15.2008 03:28 PM

MIP CVD 2.5 Versus Traxxas 3.3 CVD (5451r)
 
Hi,

Anybody out there with any side by side photos or measurements of these two CVDs for comparison? Any help will be appreciated...

Alien

JAILBIRD 09.15.2008 07:52 PM

Tower has the measurements listed in the description for each. I think the 3.3s are about 3/8 to 1/2 inch longer.

-JB

JThiessen 09.15.2008 08:07 PM

The 3.3's arent any longer than the 2.5's. Both are interchangeable with the other - so if you are wanting to know if one or the other will fit your truck, they will. My vote is dont waste your money on the MIP's. I went back to the stockers after bending several sets of metal CVD's over the years.

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.15.2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAILBIRD (Post 212958)
Tower has the measurements listed in the description for each. I think the 3.3s are about 3/8 to 1/2 inch longer.

-JB

Thanks for the info man....

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 212969)
The 3.3's arent any longer than the 2.5's. Both are interchangeable with the other - so if you are wanting to know if one or the other will fit your truck, they will. My vote is dont waste your money on the MIP's. I went back to the stockers after bending several sets of metal CVD's over the years.

They'll fit? I thought the 3.3s were wider... I actually just bent one of my CVDs in the weekend... I didn't know these things were so soft....

Thanks for the quick reply guys.

Alien

George16 09.15.2008 10:08 PM

The 3.3s are wider because of the knuckles.

JAILBIRD 09.15.2008 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 212969)
The 3.3's arent any longer than the 2.5's. Both are interchangeable with the other - so if you are wanting to know if one or the other will fit your truck, they will. My vote is dont waste your money on the MIP's. I went back to the stockers after bending several sets of metal CVD's over the years.

This is news to me. Sorry for the mistake.

-JB

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.15.2008 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAILBIRD (Post 213025)
This is news to me. Sorry for the mistake.

-JB

Hey, no worries...

Quote:

Originally Posted by George16 (Post 213023)
The 3.3s are wider because of the knuckles.


Cool... thanks for the info man.

Alien

mkrusedc 09.22.2008 12:10 AM

I have used both. The 3.3s are more durable, cheaper and lighter. The only problem I have had with them is rubbing on shock spring cups.

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.22.2008 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 215092)
I have used both. The 3.3s are more durable, cheaper and lighter. The only problem I have had with them is rubbing on shock spring cups.

Well I recently tried to fit the 3.3s on my truck, but they won't work with the knuckles I am currently using which can be seen here..

http://picasaweb.google.com/khfranci...10649566615986

http://picasaweb.google.com/khfranci...48210753408882

Thanks
Alien

mkrusedc 09.22.2008 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANGRY-ALIEN (Post 215195)
Well I recently tried to fit the 3.3s on my truck, but they won't work with the knuckles I am currently using which can be seen here..

http://picasaweb.google.com/khfranci...10649566615986

http://picasaweb.google.com/khfranci...48210753408882

Thanks
Alien

Very nice. I used RPM knuckles. :oops:

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.22.2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 215197)
Very nice. I used RPM knuckles. :oops:

:lol: Cool... These are integys (UE knock offs).... Not as nice as you would hope them to be... Here's a side by side of the CVDs: http://picasaweb.google.com/khfranci...65333726770962

mkrusedc 09.22.2008 11:51 AM

Did UE make a shaft? If so that sounds like your best option if you could find any.

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.22.2008 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 215209)
Did UE make a shaft? If so that sounds like your best option if you could find any.


Well yah... the UEs would be nice, but they are the same length as the MIPs I have, I think :neutral:.... The main problem I'm really facing is the drive cup that came with the Hot Bodies Lightning diff...
It's a little short for the CVDs.. I have tried Mike's 1/8 diff output shafts which facilitates the use of longer dive cups, but they didn't last too long.... So I had to revert to the lightning cups... Now i'm in search of longer drive cups or longer CVDs..

Alien

mkrusedc 09.23.2008 12:24 AM

Will anything from here work?

http://www.turtleracingproducts.com/cups.php

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.23.2008 01:22 AM

Not sure.... but i'm going to have a look around for some specs on these cups...

thanks man..

Alien

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.23.2008 12:14 PM

mkrusedc, do you know of anyone trying these CUPS with the Hot Bodies Lightning diffs?

mkrusedc 09.23.2008 05:30 PM

No. I wonder if you sent UE an E mail they would give you the specs for that cup or maybe sign on to their forum and ask there. I use those same diffs with the cups from Mike and 3.3 shafts.

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.23.2008 05:59 PM

Cool, I'll send them an e-mail... I signed up with the forum, but I don't have the privilege of using it yet.. I can't even look at the photos.. :neutral:
Not so sure why the shafts from Mike didn't work for me though... I asked him about them, but I didn't get an answer yet..

Alien

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.24.2008 10:59 AM

Ok... Here's the question and answer (I kept it real simple):

Q- Hi, I would like to know if I can use these -
http://www.unlimitedengineering.com/...ore/85037.html
with these http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...GY_DIFF&cat=40

A- I think they’ll work but I’m not a 100% sure. I think that’s the same as the savage maybe and I know they’ll work in it.

I also requested some measurements from them to see if they are any differences with shafts.

I'm going to send a mail to billytrucks123 on ebay hoping he has a set or get can a set for me... For some reason, I can't buy them direct from the UE site:whip:

Alien

George16 09.24.2008 11:19 AM

The UE 7.5 diff outputs will still be short for what you're planning to do. I had tried that route before. I had better luck using my home made diff outputs like what Mike sells. I made mine from revo stub axles (I cut off the threaded portion).

My recommendation for you is to buy another set of drive cups and use them with the diff outputs you bought from Mike. You can try UE's 6mm drive cup. It measures 19.7mm from end to end ( I have a bunch of them). They are made from hardened steel and should last you long.

If you can wait for a day or two (it's midnight here now), I can take measurements of my UE 7.5 diff outputs using my digital caliper. Let me know.

ANGRY-ALIEN 09.27.2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George16 (Post 215734)
The UE 7.5 diff outputs will still be short for what you're planning to do. I had tried that route before. I had better luck using my home made diff outputs like what Mike sells. I made mine from revo stub axles (I cut off the threaded portion).

My recommendation for you is to buy another set of drive cups and use them with the diff outputs you bought from Mike. You can try UE's 6mm drive cup. It measures 19.7mm from end to end ( I have a bunch of them). They are made from hardened steel and should last you long.

If you can wait for a day or two (it's midnight here now), I can take measurements of my UE 7.5 diff outputs using my digital caliper. Let me know.


Hey George, thanks for the advice man... I have tried those OUTPUT SHAFTS from Mike before along with the MIP cups and this is what they look like now: http://picasaweb.google.com/khfranci...26057184813890 :oops:
I am not sure if the shafts extended far enough out the diff case for the mip cups to get enough surface area to hold on.. I am willing to try the shafts again if they'll work with the cups from UE...
If you have a enough to send four, PM me with a costing (still can't make the buy from the UE site):whip:

Did you use GRUBS or SCREW PINS to hold the cups to the shafts?

Alien

ANGRY-ALIEN 10.14.2008 10:37 PM

Hi guys,

Just updating and sharing my findings with the UE CUP experiment... it worked perfectly...:yipi: and now the MIP CVDs have no way of escaping anymore (more importantly, the arms can be adjusted freely now). :lol:

So, if you have Hot Bodies Lightning diffs and you need cups that will work well with them, the UEs will be a good option.

Alien

mkrusedc 10.14.2008 10:51 PM

Thanks. I am still running 3.3 sliders but do have a new set of CVDs hanging on my pegboard....


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