First pictures of the Hobbywing 1/8 scale system
 

Here you go folks. Right from the source. Here is the first real pictures of Hobbywing's 1/8 scale system. Lets see when Schumacher will show pictures of the Speed Passion version and just let them know you already saw it:

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Sensored I'm assuming? Hold on, I'll get on MSN and we can talk about it. :)

Both. It'll use the sensored/sensorless technology. I was actually giving some leads for them to do a sensored 4 pole motors. They might release an 8 pole motor. I told them 4 and 6 poles are good, but 8 pole would be nice too.

8 poles would be very nice.

any specs?
Happen to know the max voltage?

6S lipos, 150A cont.

Nice!

Are you selling these too? :lol:

I just sent you an e-mail BTW.

so when will this be coming out?

or is itout?

If Hobbywing doesn't pull a stunt like they did with the Xerun then yes. E-mail replied.

I should have a unit in a couple of weeks for testing. They'll be displaying one at the iHobby.

Sweet. My 1/10 Hobbywing ESC is still holding up strong. Those motor wires don't look very large

Those powerwires look rather small. Or is the ESC that big?

Do I see two sets of battery leads? Do you know if you have to run two packs or is one of those pairs for the switch?

I thought that two but the wires seem big for a switch

Do you have any info on the motor at all?

i figured it was just the picture...

they look like 14 guage compared to the 12 guage battery wires

capacitor?

I know, thats the first thing I told them, but that unit will be going to the iHobby and Hobbywing said the production unit will have thicker wires.

I'm not sure what those 2 extra set of wires are for. They might be for an external cap bank or like you said if you want to use 2 packs. I'll ask them tonight. The on/off switch will be right by where those pins are.

When I asked about the motor, they told me 3000Kv and I told them that if the ESC is rated for 6S lipos and people went with it it would be too much. They told me the 3000Kv is for 3S lipos, 2300-2500Kv for 4S lipos and 1500-1800Kv for 6S lipos. I then told them that 4 pole is what most people are asking for and I even mentioned they should do a sensored 4 pole and 6 pole. That's when they told me they were looking at doing a 8 pole. I even showed them ictures of my 6 pole with the shattered magnet and I told them they better wrap them with Kevlar. They asked me to give them info on motor manufacturers, but this time I think I'm going to keep the help to the minimum just because of what happened with their past products. I'm going to give the Schumacher and Speed Passion guys a chance to prove they really work close with R & D :lol:. I don't think they could've came up with the new program box idea that I told them :lol:.

I think you should get 10% of every sale.

Looks abit like a generic no-name esc rather than something identifiable (MMM, Hvmaxx, Tekin etc), but if it works, who cares what it looks like.

BL sector is really exploding right now isnt it...

I can't wait to test it out is all I can say.

8 pole motor would be pretty heavy, wouldn't it?

Would weigh the same as a similar sized 2, 4 or 6 pole.

did they hold out on there top of the line products (speed passion sales only)
or charge you more to buy direct because of speed passion
sorry but im curious at the moment :oh:

Speed Passion only has the right for the Xerun ESCs, but that doesn't make sense because Venom and Orion also has the Xerun ESC. I asked Hobbywing to make mine different, but for some reason they don't want to do it. They said the eZRun line has nothing to do with Speed Passion and gave me prices for the current 18, 25, 35 and 60A units, but they are too high. I'm going to wait and see how the 1/8 unit does as I have no clue if it'll work with 4 pole motors as they'll be offering 2 pole motors.

i know what you mean and why youll wait see how it pans out i fellow i know and buys alot of there gear off them wanted the 120 ampers 1/10 scales esc and they were hesitant as in no and he buys a fair bit of there gear too
and when he did get pricing for it .
it was over priced

sorry on a final edit have you spoke/emailed to fsd motors at all as there motors are rated to 50k rpm which i though was not bad
they have a 100amp esc similar too others currently sold

I have spoken to FSD and Keda, but the motors I want have to be 4 or 6 poles. I'm trying to stay away from Hacker clones as much as possible. I've just had enough with them failing.

frankly speaking germans run 2 poles and it is quite ok, why do you keep pushing towards 4 and more poles?

The 4 and 6 poles motors have better torque and electric motors also makes power from torque. I know the Germans still use 2 pole and that's why I have them. Have you see the new E50 from Hacker? Guess how many poles they have?

I've seen E50, quite nice, but not really mentioned for cars. Question is if we put this increased torque and power on loose ground or we just spin wheels faster not moving forward?

The E40 are marketed for cars and the E50 is just the big brother for 1/8 scale and it's a 4 pole design. I made a video of my MBX5T that I drove on a very loose surface and I was still able to pop wheelies on demand. I've learned a long time ago, that throttle control is very important in a electric vehicle since you get all the torque needed from start ups.

Hey there - sorry to drag this up. Has anyone had chance to run one of these as yet? I have them hear with me but just waiting for some motors to land..

You actually have the 1/8 scale ESC? I was supposed to get one to test, but Hobbywing said they had a problem with them. Things just keeps getting better. Did you get it from Hobbywing or a dealer? Keep us posted on how it does.

Doesnt sound good, yep I have them here..

are there a 80amp version of this esc to ? Because i have seen pics of an hobbywing esc that only could handle 80amp cont ? and 6s lipo ? The come with a brushless 1/8 buggy from casterracing !

I was supposed to get the 150A 6S version, but I've heard of a few problems that HW has to take care of, but I'll have to see as I keep getting only good news lol. Caster went with the 80A 4S and HW said that's all they need.

when you say germans, we have a company called "flyware" here in germany, which produce industrial Brushless motors as well as for hobby use. they are pretty popular at the heli and raceboat guys.

and they have up to 8 poles, like the max650 shark20. the big graupner inline 700 (for boat use) used to be a flyware. and they're not expensive, and known to have good efficiency. I will buy one i guess.

4 or 8 poles are great for car use due to the torque, as the motors are often used in "not-full-throttle", and therefore the 2 pole motors are not so good as they tend to get hot. the only problem could be with the esc, as 8 poles mean more work for the esc then 2 pole.

but, the flyware's are not as good looking as some of the chinese ones. but they work well. :smile:

maybe you ask them.

When Hobbywing mentioned the 8 pole I was a bit surprised, but I told them 4 pole is plenty. I showed the videos I have with 4 and 6 pole motors and they liked it. I was looking at the Flyware a few days ago and they have some nice motors. I really don't know why Hobbywing is having difficulties finding companies in China that will do a motor for them. I have a few sources, but I'm not going to share them :lol:.

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