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brushlessboy16 10.16.2008 07:29 PM

Anyone think traxxas is killing the market?
 
They always seem to come out with what everyone wants(not saying its a bad thing) but they seem to be sucking the market up with there new product. even though most of there products are the previous models with some new wheels and some graphix..

now with the brushless e-revo, slayer, slash, (slash vxl?) and there minis which might be brushless.. They are just eating up everyones share of the cake... but then again you have to applaud them for being able to sell soo much of the same product:oops:

Happywing 10.16.2008 07:45 PM

Hey BB, They are good, but they don't have a monopoly on the hobby. They don't make a competitive 1/10 truck, buggy or 4wd buggy for the track. They don't have a 1/8 buggy or truggy. For years, the only Traxxas you'd see at the track is a Revo. Just lately, there's the Slash. They are clever though!

rootar 10.16.2008 07:52 PM

they are making it easier for people to get what they want in the hobby, their cars are "fun" veichles not full blown racers, most people dont care if its rebadged or revised, if it looks good and works good and they can get parts for it, %80 of people could care less about anything else..... beside you know a 1/16 scale revo would be a blast!

i think it be awesome for them to bring a couple minis to the table.

id be disappointed it they just relased a slash vxl and E slayer tomorrow........

JaySki 10.16.2008 08:24 PM

I think part of their strategy, in these times, is to get as much out there in hopes of keeping some momentum in their sales. With the Economy tanking, Consumer confidence tanking, and credit drying up... Hobby spending is going to dry up fast as well.. for obvious reasons. It's a toy. I think Traxxas is merely trying to get their stuff to market now in fear of releaseing some later.... Just my $.02

MetalMan 10.16.2008 09:55 PM

In a sense, Traxxas is killing RC somewhat. At the LHS I work it, the Traxxas parts section is ever-expanding. When new parts come in, they get sent to a box down below because they have no place on the parts panels.
Every 6 months or so we re-do the parts panels for any given brand. With Traxxas, it is difficult to find enough space for everything since they don't discontinue many parts (the store often stops carrying them long before Traxxas stops making them).

This also makes any particular Traxxas part more difficult to find and/or keep in stock. I suppose this isn't so much of an issue for online hobby shops, but for the brick-and-mortar type it is.

Another thought concerning Traxxas and hobby shops - if Traxxas redesigned a whole new truck, they'd have a whole new line of parts. There's no way a hobby shop is wanting or even willing to carry a whole new line of parts when a company releases so many vehicles within such a short period of time. So from this perspective, it's actually better that Traxxas is just changing around platforms to come up with something new.

DRIFT_BUGGY 10.16.2008 10:12 PM

Well there out to many other cars out there as durable as Traxxas and value for money is excellent. Main worry with Traxxas is their forum

E-Revonut 10.16.2008 10:25 PM

Of all their new releases the only one I really like is the brusless E-REVO, they're just making it easier on us, I would have rather bough that than my E-REVO just to pull out the titans, evx2, and AM radio! I also think the locking diff on the summit is cool but don't really care for the rest of it. I expect that if they're releasing 2 more tomorrow and one is supose to be a 1/16 revo/slayer that the other would almost have to be a brushless edition E-MAXX unless the 2 are 1/16 e-slayer and 1/16 e-revo

DRIFT_BUGGY 10.16.2008 10:39 PM

A 1/16 E-REVO would be alright. Couldnt' care about the 1/16 Slash/E-Slayer

E-Revonut 10.16.2008 10:41 PM

With Traxxas releasing all these new trucks ready to run Lipos I guess it's the right time for me to be getting rid of my Hyperion eos0606i ac/dc charger. If anyone's interested it will be on ebay soon unless you pm me first

Finnster 10.16.2008 11:41 PM

I don't think you can blame TRX for killing anything. If anything blame the other makers for not being as competitive or well organized. We've been doing BL for a while now, made it work, but only TRX (and Losi kinda) is waking up to this.

Otherwise I think its good for customers to be able to find TRX parts for nearly any vehicle easily. Nice to know your fav truck is going to be around a while. I really like my Hyper ST, but parts support is iffy in LHSs, and Ofna I guess is fairly renowned for dropping lines. Its completely confusing between the OFNA and Hobao lines.

There are a few good other makers, they just seem to be run not as well, which is a shame as they tend to be higher quality than TRX, and not necc more $$$.

DRIFT_BUGGY 10.16.2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 223298)
Otherwise I think its good for customers to be able to find TRX parts for nearly any vehicle easily. Nice to know your fav truck is going to be around a while. I really like my Hyper ST, but parts support is iffy in LHSs, and Ofna I guess is fairly renowned for dropping lines. Its completely confusing between the OFNA and Hobao lines.

And then Hong Nor and Jammin :no:

TexasSP 10.17.2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 223298)
I don't think you can blame TRX for killing anything. If anything blame the other makers for not being as competitive or well organized. We've been doing BL for a while now, made it work, but only TRX (and Losi kinda) is waking up to this.

Otherwise I think its good for customers to be able to find TRX parts for nearly any vehicle easily. Nice to know your fav truck is going to be around a while. I really like my Hyper ST, but parts support is iffy in LHSs, and Ofna I guess is fairly renowned for dropping lines. Its completely confusing between the OFNA and Hobao lines.

There are a few good other makers, they just seem to be run not as well, which is a shame as they tend to be higher quality than TRX, and not necc more $$$.

I will ditto this post. I like knowing my trucks will have steady parts supply for a while. One of the reasons I have ditched other vehicles is lack of support.

crazyjr 10.17.2008 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 223175)
They always seem to come out with what everyone wants(not saying its a bad thing) but they seem to be sucking the market up with there new product. even though most of there products are the previous models with some new wheels and some graphix..

now with the brushless e-revo, slayer, slash, (slash vxl?) and there minis which might be brushless.. They are just eating up everyones share of the cake... but then again you have to applaud them for being able to sell soo much of the same product:oops:

One of the rules for capitalism is filling niche markets, Traxxas seems to not be afraid of trying something new and be first to profit. Look at the Slash, Revamped stampede for a growing demand for scale rc's, usually dominated by Tamiya, Traxxas got there first

DRIFT_BUGGY 10.17.2008 01:14 AM

Tamiya had a CORR truck out before Traxxas

crazyjr 10.17.2008 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 223331)
Tamiya had a CORR truck out before Traxxas

True, as did tenth tech and Losi. The tenth tech and tamiya were based loosely on a touring car platform, the Losi was 1/10 buggy based. All were ahead of their time and needed a special track (smaller, more scale-like jumps) the slash is the first one that can work with the current tracks. I never meant to say that Traxxas did it first, but they have mastered the idea of using current models to fill niche's and making them work good.

jhautz 10.17.2008 01:25 AM

IMO Traxxas doent make great vehicles. The make good vehicles for a reasonable price.

The thing Traxxas is great at is Marketing!

DRIFT_BUGGY 10.17.2008 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 223332)
True, as did tenth tech and Losi. The tenth tech and tamiya were based loosely on a touring car platform, the Losi was 1/10 buggy based. All were ahead of their time and needed a special track (smaller, more scale-like jumps) the slash is the first one that can work with the current tracks. I never meant to say that Traxxas did it first, but they have mastered the idea of using current models to fill niche's and making them work good.

Wasn't Losi's just a truck body you could buy to convert the XX-4 over?

bdebde 10.17.2008 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 223333)
IMO Traxxas doent make great vehicles. The make good vehicles for a reasonable price.

The thing Traxxas is great at is Marketing!

Exactly!

Way back in my early days of rc, a real rc enthusiast wouldn't be caught dead with a traxxas vehicle, they were considered toys. At the time all rc's were kits you had to build (OMG), but traxxas was the only one making rtr's. They filled a niche, less mechanically inclined people could now get into rc's (and trouble lol).

What's_nitro? 10.17.2008 03:21 AM

As a direct response to the thread title: This is a classic example of Darwin's theory.

If other manufacturers can't keep up, they will eventually cease to exist. Survival of the fittest. I don't think there can be such a thing as a "monopoly". If there are no competitors, that's it. Period. No sense in penalizing a manufacturer for being the best and/or only one.

hoovhartid 10.17.2008 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 223352)
I don't think there can be such a thing as a "monopoly".

I agree. any mfgr can release new product, and traxxas doesnt do anything to stop or prevent them.

The only "monopoly's" that I know of are local electric companies. I can only choose to use FPL (Florida Power & Light) for receiving my power at my house. I used to feel the same about cable companies, but now that you can get the dish, guess you at least have options.

seems impossible to have a monopoly in the RC industry.

lincpimp 10.17.2008 04:08 AM

Traxxas makes good products, and they are well designed. Not the best out there, but better than alot of stuff.

They are marketed towards beginners (most of the nitro stuff) and will always be popular for that.

Their electric products were lacking a bit until the revamped emaxx and erevo came out. The slash appears to be a hit, although I do not like mine...

I am a basher, and traxxas has stood up as well as anything else that I have tried. All of the mfg products have weakness, just in different places.

I am glad that traxxas are releasing new vehicles, keeps their product line interesting and encourages other mfg to make similar products that may be better!

What's_nitro? 10.17.2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 223362)
I am glad that traxxas are releasing new vehicles, keeps their product line interesting and encourages other mfg to make similar products that may be better!

Hey, some day we might have the "perfect" RC! :lol:

TexasSP 10.17.2008 01:02 PM

I don't want the perfect RC, it would negate the point of a hobby and make things really boring.

I am with linc on his opinion of the traxxas deal. They are continually challenging the market instead of hedging all their bets on "safe" products. Kind of like how x-ray came out of no where and has shook the racing market by storm and axial who turned the crawler world upside down. We need companies like this in the hobby.


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