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CrazyPhantom 11.20.2005 06:48 PM

BL Tc3
 
Hello,

I have started a new project. It will be a brushless TC3. It will be running a Feigo 540C 9L motor. For batteries I will be running 2 poly-quest 2s 3100mah lipolys. I have not decided on the controller yet. This is the chassis design so far. It is currently being machined as I type this by Andrew at Cold Fusion Racing.

Picture below
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...om/Chassis.jpg

CrazyPhantom 11.20.2005 08:37 PM

got pictures of the chassis cut. Thanks to Andrew over at Cold Fusion Racing.

Pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...m/chassis1.jpg

nbcaznmaster 11.20.2005 08:49 PM

Nice! a 9L motor is too much torque. You'll probbably kill ur diffs. Ur better off with a 6s or one of them smaller motors.

squeeforever 11.20.2005 09:20 PM

nbcazn-i think your wrong. i thin the 9l will be ok. maybe a 10l.

CrazyPhantom 11.20.2005 09:23 PM

Diffs will also be spooled;)

coolhandcountry 11.20.2005 11:29 PM

can't wait to see the project farther along. Keep us up to date.

CrazyPhantom 11.21.2005 12:20 AM

Yeah, I will for sure. Im currently working on a motor mount that will get the CG lower then my first design.

Serum 11.21.2005 02:42 PM

Looks great so far! have you got more plans/drawings of that truck to share?

nbcaznmaster 11.21.2005 04:27 PM

Wait! u can put a 9L? i was thinking about getting a drifter car with regualr brushed setup! lol, maybe i can use the crap cordite motor on it!

CrazyPhantom 11.21.2005 05:53 PM

yes, I will get some more drawings up tonight

CrazyPhantom 11.22.2005 09:29 PM

I think I am going to go with the 380C 7-9T motor instead of the 540C 9L. I was reading over at radio control zone, and I was reading some brushless TC3 projects, and they are all running the 380C becaseu they said that it is insanely fast still, and will for the most part not destroy the drivetrain. If you think different let me know.

Thanks
-Joe

Batfish 11.22.2005 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrazyPhantom
I think I am going to go with the 380C 7-9T motor instead of the 540C 9L. I was reading over at radio control zone, and I was reading some brushless TC3 projects, and they are all running the 380C becaseu they said that it is insanely fast still, and will for the most part not destroy the drivetrain. If you think different let me know.

Thanks
-Joe

I'm always a fan of keeping the drivetrain intact :)

CrazyPhantom 11.22.2005 10:27 PM

Do you guys think the motor(380c) will be able to with stand the 14.8 volts?

MetalMan 11.22.2005 10:41 PM

The 13t will be able to.

CrazyPhantom 11.23.2005 08:55 AM

ok, thanks. I will be ordering the 380C in a couple of days hopefully, and hopefully my chassis will be here in a couple of days aswell, so that I can start moving on this project.

CrazyPhantom 11.24.2005 12:28 AM

Hello,
I have changed my plans a little bit.
First off, I will trying to use the 380C 13T instead of the 540C 9L. I might just use 1 Lipoly battery but still run 14.8V.I want to mount the motor differnt the stock becasue stock is boring, but I might end up putting it in the normal position.I will hopefully be designing a custom carbon fiber top deck for this project. But I might just end up doing an aluminum one.

Does anyone know what the best controller would be to handle 14.8V?

Let me know,
Joe

MetalMan 11.24.2005 11:20 AM

You don't need a very powerful controller, as that motor will pull very few amps. My Feigao 540 12s on a 4s 3300mah(10C) Lipo in a Rustler would never make the battery heat up. The 380C is a smaller motor, so it would require even less. I would estimate that a controller that is rated at ~50amps would work well.

CrazyPhantom 11.24.2005 02:53 PM

Will any of the new castle creation controllers work? or do you guys not recrommend those? this will be my first brushless project so I dont know too much about controllers and stuff.

Let me know.

squeeforever 11.24.2005 03:14 PM

not sure but if your refering to the phoenix's there made for planes and i dont think they would work. i would go for the mgm 80 amp controller. i hear there good for low cell counts.

-corey

CrazyPhantom 11.24.2005 03:23 PM

I need a controller rated at max to 12-13 cells. I will be running 14.8 volts so I dont want to blow a controller

RC-Monster Mike 11.25.2005 01:17 AM

Castle will soon release the mamba maxx controller, which should be nicely priced, highly capable and good for up to 16 cells. This is also a car/truck controller, so it should be ideal for our applications.

CrazyPhantom 11.25.2005 02:58 AM

you know a specific date when that will be coming out? becasue I might be rdering the MGM 80 this week.

Serum 11.25.2005 04:06 AM

Yeah, all eyes on castle!

MetalMan 11.25.2005 02:33 PM

It's gonna be a few months, or more. Beta controllers still aren't out... The whole reason why it isn't out is because they are making sure that it will be as reliable, smooth, a just plain good as it can be. The beta period will be for working bugs out with the testers.

CrazyPhantom 11.27.2005 09:09 PM

Do you guys think the MGM 80 amp from http://www.modelflight.com.au/mgm_compro.htm
will work? It is different then the one they have in the r/c monster store. It is alot cheaper too. Which one should I get, that one, or the r/c monster one? If I get the one from that site, I can get the motor and controller this week, but if i get from r/c monster I will have to wait like 2 mre weeks for the controller.

Let me know which one I should get.

Thanks
-Joe

CrazyPhantom 11.28.2005 11:59 PM

I got the chassis from Andrew from Cold Fusion Racing today. Here is one of the picture I got, I took more but they came out blurry and then the batteries dies so this is all I got right now.

Pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...m/6da56de5.jpg

Let me know what you think.
-Joe

E-Traxxer 11.29.2005 12:38 AM

That looks awesome! The 80 amp one that is on that site is for airplanes, it won't work because it doesn't have brakes and it wouldn't nbe able to control the amp spikes that occur on a car/truck. The one in the Rc-Monster store would be your best bet.

CrazyPhantom 11.29.2005 12:45 AM

Oh, ok, thanks alot.

danhfvcsd 11.29.2005 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrazyPhantom
Do you guys think the MGM 80 amp from http://www.modelflight.com.au/mgm_compro.htm
will work?
I figure you know already - but just to be safe - that site's shop is in australia (adelaide to be exact hehehe) :)

oh - and btw - that chassis is lookin damn hot :)

CrazyPhantom 11.29.2005 01:18 AM

Yeah, If you think the chassis looks good in a picture, you should see it in real life. This is only the mock up chassis to beleive it or not. I need to change a few things here and there, and then have Andrew over at Cold Fusion Racing cut me another one. I decided that I am going to try to run dual lipoly packs. Now I have to find a pack that will fit with out me having to rearrange the steering setup on the car. I think Im going to get the poly-quest 3100N 7.4V batteries, becasue they are the closet thing I can find to fitting and still near the mAH's I'm looking for. The motor will be mounted above the spur gear, trying to keep it as low as possible still. Well, I gtg to bed, so more updates will be up tomarro if I have any (Final chassis design will most likely be done tomarrow)

Thanks
-Joe

CrazyPhantom 11.29.2005 07:07 PM

Final chassis design, waiting on the final check on measurements from the place Im getting my poly-quest lipolys from, and then the chassis will be cut.

Pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/9ff2b4f9.jpg

rchippie 11.29.2005 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrazyPhantom
I got the chassis from Andrew from Cold Fusion Racing today. Here is one of the picture I got, I took more but they came out blurry and then the batteries dies so this is all I got right now.

Pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...m/6da56de5.jpg

Let me know what you think.
-Joe

Crazy that chassis looks great. Are you going to have andrew make a top plate, to help with chassis flex ?.

CrazyPhantom 11.29.2005 09:08 PM

I do not beleive that there will be alot of chassis flex, but I do plan on getting a carbon fiber topdeck machined just for looks if anything.

nbcaznmaster 11.29.2005 09:12 PM

nice look, u got liek batt holders or stuff like tha tmade up yet?

CrazyPhantom 11.29.2005 09:17 PM

The batteries will sit in those pockets on both sides of the chassis, no need for battery cups.

Batfish 11.29.2005 09:44 PM

I just noticed foams on one side of the car and rubber on the other...educate me; if that's on purpose, what's the purpose?
If you just stuck them on there to see how it would look, I understand that as I just realized that all the pics I took with different bodies on my stock E-Maxx had the tires on backwards :)

CrazyPhantom 11.29.2005 09:53 PM

I put them on there to make the picture looks a little better from the side I shot it from, and also I wanted to see if the 30mm foams would fit in the front and the back. But good catch:cool:

danhfvcsd 11.29.2005 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrazyPhantom
The batteries will sit in those pockets on both sides of the chassis, no need for battery cups.
will you strap them in with velcro or something? :)

CrazyPhantom 11.29.2005 10:12 PM

I just ordered the Feigao 380C 13T from StarLuck R/C and I am going to be ordering the controller and the 2 Lipoly packs in a couple of weeks. But I will be getting a couple of parts machined in the mean time while I wait to order the controller and batts.

And also, it will most likely be velcro'd in

rchippie 11.29.2005 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrazyPhantom
I do not beleive that there will be alot of chassis flex, but I do plan on getting a carbon fiber topdeck machined just for looks if anything.
The CF top plate will look killer with the aluminum. There is more flex than people think in those little cars, especialy when you come to a sudden stop :L: .


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