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shizzon 10.31.2008 12:24 AM

Parallel 5s lipos for E-revo
 
I have been looking for a couple smaller mAH 5s lipos for running with a parallel connection in an E-revo with MMM and Teckno Neu 1515/1y. I am Looking for quality Enerland Based cells and I have been looking (especially at NeuEnergy's because there on sale right now) but i haven't found anything that looks large enough capacity.

Anyone with any links or ideas?

Thanks

MetalMan 10.31.2008 12:27 AM

How about running 2s and 3s in series? There's less complexity there, and weight distribution wouldn't necessarily be a problem, because you can mount the 2s on the ESC side and the 3s on the other side.

shizzon 10.31.2008 12:37 AM

That does sound like a possibility, ill look around and see what i can find. From what i have heard you must use cells of the same capacity, So a 3s 5000 and a 2s 5000 right?

E-Revonut 10.31.2008 12:39 AM

That is correct, when connecting LiPo packs together the capacity needs to be the same!

shizzon 10.31.2008 12:46 AM

K, so i found on Neu's site the 2s and 3s 4900xp for $67 and $95 respectively, pretty darn good deal, only thing is that they are their 25c batteries, will these be sufficient?? or should i go for smaller capacity 30c batteries?

stum 10.31.2008 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by shizzon (Post 227852)
I have been looking for a couple smaller mAH 5s lipos for running with a parallel connection in an E-revo with MMM and Teckno Neu 1515/1y. I am Looking for quality Enerland Based cells and I have been looking (especially at NeuEnergy's because there on sale right now) but i haven't found anything that looks large enough capacity.

Anyone with any links or ideas?

Thanks

The only way you are getting a 5s lipo config in an erevo is if you do 2s 5000 on one side and 3s 5000 on the other in series to equal 5s 5000. You get the longest run time from a 4s 8000mah setup vs any other voltage/size due to the battery compartment restraints.. you can get close with some 3s 5000's in series for 6s 5000 total, but the 4s 8k setup gets you a few extra minutes vs the 6s 5k setup. You would need to find some 3s 5400mah packs to sneak past the 4s 8k setup, and even then they have to fit in the battery trays.. 26mm tall I think max. I suggest going 4s 5k w/ the elite 35c cells, they rock and are pretty cheap. 8k packs that fit include the maxamps 20c 8k packs, the SPC 15c 8k packs and the true-rc 8k packs all these 8k packs perform on par w/ each other so get the cheapest.

stum 10.31.2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shizzon (Post 227865)
K, so i found on Neu's site the 2s and 3s 4900xp for $67 and $95 respectively, pretty darn good deal, only thing is that they are their 25c batteries, will these be sufficient?? or should i go for smaller capacity 30c batteries?

will that 3s 4900 fit or is it too tall?

go to neu's car section and they have their 2s 5000 hard case packs on for 60.00 also... if you don't get your 5s to work out.

shizzon 10.31.2008 12:56 AM

I already have some descent 2s batts (polyquest 5000mAh 30c hardcase) i was just looking for a little bit more voltage without going to 6s, and i thought the battery compartments were 30mm high...ill have to check

E-Revonut 10.31.2008 12:57 AM

3s 4900xp fits no problem after you remove the spring on top of the battery box. 6s on that 1y is gonna be a bit extreme though. But if you do these cells should hold up just fine

shizzon 10.31.2008 01:03 AM

no i'm going for one 3s 4900xp and one 2s 4900xp for 5s 4900...so it wont be too high on the revs.

stum 10.31.2008 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 227874)
3s 4900xp fits no problem after you remove the spring on top of the battery box. 6s on that 1y is gonna be a bit extreme though. But if you do these cells should hold up just fine

Have you tried to fit a 30mm height pack? My MA 8k packs are 26mm and take up every last bit of the available height.. they even make the top bump up a little.... strange..

E-Revonut 10.31.2008 01:07 AM

3s 4900xp is about 28mm high, pop out the spring on top and they fit easy. With the spring the chassis did have a bump.

shizzon 10.31.2008 01:15 AM

Just got out the trusty Digital calipers and sure enough they are 30mm on the dot

shizzon 10.31.2008 01:21 AM

And how exactly do you guys feel about the 1y on 5s, which is just over 40,000 rpm, still well below the 60,000 max. Anyone here with any experience of this motor on 5s?

E-Revonut 10.31.2008 01:30 AM

Just been debating this in a different thread! It's my opinion that 6s is to much for the 1y, It can handle it yes but for how long and the temps will be higher than ideal and generally the optimal operating range is 35k +/- a few thousand. 5s is out of the optimal range in my opinion, the 1y is ideal for 4s. A 2.5d is better on 5-6s, it's actually freakish on 6s! At 25MPH it will still flip over if I punch it. This is all just my opinion.

brushlessboy16 10.31.2008 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shizzon (Post 227881)
And how exactly do you guys feel about the 1y on 5s, which is just over 40,000 rpm, still well below the 60,000 max. Anyone here with any experience of this motor on 5s?

I have a 1515 1y in my truggy on 5s, its borderline unnecessary.. rediculous amounts of power, remember it will be turning 45k on a fully charged pack:yes:

Im debating steping down to a lower kv.

stum 10.31.2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 227907)
I have a 1515 1y in my truggy on 5s, its borderline unnecessary.. rediculous amounts of power, remember it will be turning 45k on a fully charged pack:yes:

Im debating steping down to a lower kv.

I agree for racing 1600-2000 is the max kv you want with a 5s+ system, if you are running 4s 2200-2700 is fine depending on your gearing and speed needs.. higher kv = more speed, lower kv = more run time. To be honest reguardless of the motor I won't gear any race truck for over 42mph anymore, I actually like shooting for about 38mph to be honest.. more than enough top end and leads to slightly longer run times.

azjc 10.31.2008 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by shizzon (Post 227881)
And how exactly do you guys feel about the 1y on 5s, which is just over 40,000 rpm, still well below the 60,000 max. Anyone here with any experience of this motor on 5s?

I run a 1515/2y on 10s...speed wise its equal to a 1515/1y on 5s, but runs cooler. I wouldn"t go any faster with the rpm's I feel it tops out there and any more speed it would be out of control

Patrick 11.01.2008 12:49 AM

1515 1y (2200kv) is pretty good on 5s for bashing and maybe some bigger tracks. Too much power for most tracks though.

e-mike 11.01.2008 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 228125)
1515 1y (2200kv) is pretty good on 5s for bashing and maybe some bigger tracks. Too much power for most tracks though.

your right...i try it on 6 cell in my local track...:surprised:to fast and to powerfull:party:

shizzon 11.01.2008 01:28 AM

I don,t race, im just a basher, so the extra power wont be unnecessary. Its either a 5s setup of just another pair of the polyquest lipos that i already have and love, i'm leaning towards the 5s setup because it will be cheaper and give me more power...win win

Ryu James 11.01.2008 08:46 AM

this site has some of the best batts on the market. http://www.hobby-lobby.com/lithium-polymer.htm

sikeston34m 11.01.2008 09:27 AM

I wish Traxxas would have made these compartments bigger. :yes:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...atterysize.jpg

hemiblas 11.01.2008 11:02 AM

I think 2 spc 8k lipos for 4S would be plenty fast. They are great cels and will give you the most runtime. They are about 75 bucks each so its 150. The 8000s have 2 4000 cells in parallel. I have never been impressed with 5k cells by themselves for volt drop,but I've also never owned some of the nue batteries so I dont know.

I have my emaxx geared for 42 mph on 4S and I agree with Stum. After that it just becomes ridiculous power thats really not usable unless you want to dig gopher holes in your backyard with the tires.

If they would have gone 33mm then we could have fit the 5000 5s packs at truerc and we could have put 2 in parallel. That would have been just awesome. I am going to go with 2 of the 4s packs in parallel. That is the most runtime you can get in the revo.


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