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Smaller onroad project
I love my Ultra GTP, but it's a big large to play in the garage/basement/small work parking lot. So, I thought a 10th scale would be better space-wise.
Been looking at a few models, but want one that is tough. I don't care if it's belt or shaft drive as long as everything holds up. Not trying for insane speeds, but it will have plenty of torque for drifts when I want. So, what's the most durable model in 10th scale? Diffs have to have metal gears. Preferably planetary or spider gears (not ball). Since I'll probably go through bodies like candy, I want something that'll be easy to find bodies for. Also want something fairly easy to work on - sucks having to take half the car apart to get to one thing. |
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um, pretty sure he's looking for touring cars, not stadium trucks. btw it's vxl, not vlx.
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Tc3-4-5?
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Actually, I already have a CRT.5. I'm looking more of something like Team Associated TC3 or TC4, Losi drift sedan, Trx 4Tec, Ofna Hyper GPX4/CD3/LD3 - stuff like that. Just want the most durable model with ease of maintenance.
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Go with the N4-tec if you want durability. Its a brick...:lol:
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I was actually looking at a nitro 4-tec several days ago. A guy at my LHS got a used one and I was looking it over. The whole upper deck would need to be rebuilt, but not a bad little car from what I could see. And the belt was off to the side giving plenty of room in the middle for stuff. But, I figured I'd get more opinions before I go hunting for one. :smile:
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Dude I am sorry, I was on my 1st cup of coffe when I read that this morning. My bad. :lol:
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I have been looking for a nice TC4 also but they are kinda hard to find nice ones for the cheap. In fact I was shopping the TC5 simply b/c the part support would be easier and they seem to come way down in price. I want a 100+ mph sedan too. :wink:
As far as maitanance I dunno, but for speed they are soooo capable of over 100 with MM and 4s!! I wanna but its going to have to wait till after the 8ight. |
Hey Brian, if you want a nitro 4tec I have one with a bunch of parts that you can have cheap...
I would say that it will make a decent conversion. I also llike the tamiya tt01 chassis. Thise are super strong, even though they have plastic diffs with metal internals. I had one do 75mph repeatedly with no wear to the drivetrain. |
I like my TA-04. Carbon chassis, took a curb head on @ 45mph or so and live to race on.
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I'm still trying to decide what I want more: a MT/truggy or a smaller onroad. Probably after the holidays when finances settle down before I know either way. Mike has sucked my wallet dry the last month - but it's a good thing. :smile: |
You may have to convert a nitro to get metal gear diffs with internal gears as most electrics use ball diffs. I think the nitro rs4 family has decent diffs. I have an electric RS4 (ball diffs) that easily does 60mph and is very durable. But if you want to run in a garage or basement, you may want to go to smaller yet (1/18th scale).
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Converting a nitro is fine with me. Actually, I expected it.
Garage/basement is just for playing when it is too cold outside. But mostly for small parking lots and such. I still haven't seen the full speed of my GTP because I run out of room. I had a Tamitay EVO III, which is 10th scale IIRC, and it worked pretty good in tight places, but parts are REALLY hard to come by so I gave it to my brother with a gentle brushed motor/LRP ESC (was on my son's Pede). Yeah, I don't like ball diffs. I'd much rather have a planetary or spider diff that is tunable with oil. I took a look at the 4tec at traxxas and noticed they use similar driveshafts as Slash/Pede/Rustler and found them to twist easily. So, whatever I get has to have steel outdrives and CVDs as well. So, the list of requirements are: > Spider or planetary steel oil-tunable diffs > Steel driveshaft outdrives and CVDs > Easy to work on any one part without tearing half the vehicle apart. > Sized to fit typical 10th scale bodies At this rate, I might as well just get another CRT.5 and create a chassis and shock towers specific for on-road use since it has the driveline I am happy with. Actually, that's not a bad idea really. Hmmm. I wonder if the CRT.5 arms are too wide... How wide are 10th scale bodies? |
touring car bodies are generally 190 or 200 mm
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That's the width? I guess it makes sense; 190mm=7.48", 200mm=7.87"
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I serious doubt that you will ever damage a driveshaft with an electric tc tire. They weight next to nothing, and most only have so much grip. The 4tec sliders are stout, plus you will most likely run foam tires, and they never game me any issues on my tt01 with the plastic dogbones. These small cars are so light nothing really wears very fast. Good fun if you have a decent smooth parking lot. I used to drift the tamiya in between speed runs... It was still very controllable even geared for 70+...
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Would you ever consider 1/14 scale? There's a Spashett edition Sportwerks Recoil on fleabay (all carbon fiber options, threaded shocks, blah blah) for a hundred bucks NIB. I bought one and put a hobbywing EZ-run 60A esc along with a 6000kv Hyperion in it and the thing flies.
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I am too looking for a tough 1/10 touring car having metal planetary geared diffs, don't mind for the bit extra weight. |
I used to have a 3.3 Nitro 4-Tec, if you like to drift that's the RC for you. They're probably 2x the weight of any modern touring car so you just have to back off the throttle, turn in, then gas it and you're sliding even with nitro power. It was pretty tough though, I hit a patch of dust/dirt at 60+ and completely lost it. I managed to get enough control of it to slow it down but it still hit the curb pretty hard. All that broke was the rear shock tower and that was really easy to replace. The planetary diffs never gave me any trouble and the plastic output yokes were still holding on when I sold it.
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hey i have a tamiya tg10 that would be easy to convert to brushless, its a bullet proof as they come, im letting it go very very cheep.
it has gear diffs, aluminum drive shaft, metal axels,steal dog bones,aluminum chassis, bran new body, wheels and tires,its a tuff car here is a link to my urc for sale thread http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95099 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/DSCN1213.jpg |
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Sparrowhawk VX Touring Car Sparrowhawk DX Drifter http://www.hobbymedia.it/img/2008/12/drift-1.jpg The drifter looks very bling blingy - me likey! :yes: http://www.hobbymedia.it/img/2008/12/drift-3.jpg http://www.hobbymedia.it/img/2008/12/6534-f32.jpg And if you want an off-road version Sparrowhawk XB |
@Semi-pro: Replied to your PM
@riceman: Yeah, seems parts are slim around here. Even tower has nothing. So far, the 4Tec is probably the closest I'm gonna get to what I'm looking for... |
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HPI E10?? Inexpensive roller. 4WD shaft drive sealed diffs. Easy parts availability...
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E-10s are not very good cars. My buddy has one and he drifted into a curb at about 5mph and broke an a-arm.
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Well, I looked around at the HPI site and they do seem to have a decent range of parts, hopups, and bodies. And my LHS does deal with HPI, so that's nice. The nitro RS4 (the drift one) seems to have what I'm looking for. The regular RS4 doesn't have adjustable camber, but that's really not a big deal, and could be changed out for the drift's links if I really wanted I guess.
It's either that or the 4tec I think. Still trying to decide. Despite what people say about the 4tec drive shafts being fine, I'm still hung up on that issue. |
i want you to try an n4-tec and tell me how it does, you know, learn on your dime:intello:
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Any interest in a Tc3?
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You mean this one: http://www.rc10.com/ae/ntc3/ntc3_home.htm
Dunno. Is it solid? Does it have metal diff gears (spider/planetarey - not ball)? |
Nitro? No, electric.
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It was the only TC3 at AE's site where I could see some detailed pics...
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Break down of the car
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/HPIM1394.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/HPIM1395.jpg Re-greasing diffs http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/HPIM1402.jpg As it sits now, will build up more tomaro =] http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/HPIM1409.jpg |
Hey BrianG, I found a neat little car a while back at rcmart. I saved the link so i could get one, its a miniclass 540 car, think HPI rs4mini not micro. Here is a link
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/produc...ducts_id=25275 this is a better link, shows all the models http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/kits-h...-420_1176.html not sure of parts availability, but the cars look decent. being slightly smaller than normal touring, should be more durable |
i have always wanted to buy a an abc car
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trev, when taking up close pics, use the macro option on your camera.... It makes a world of difference. On my camera it is a little flower icon. :whistle:
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Yeah, i know, my camera just sucks. i try and try, but it doesn't like to work right, sorry.
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I like my TC4. it may be a bit on the "simple" side, but its a solid little performer.
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