Lightest Buggy?
 

I was just curious about the weight of the buggies out there and can't seem to find consistend info on them. Most of all I was wondering what the weight of the rolling chassis for each is? Anybody have info on that?

I havent seen anyone post anything lighter than the 808 yet. Its about as light as they come. Here are 2 pictures from when I first built it. One Picture without battery but otherwise ready to run and one wih a 4300mah 5s battery in it.

W/ 5s 4300mah battery (RTR)
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...8/CIMG3130.jpg

No battery but otherwise RTR
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...8/CIMG3130.jpg

Ok, I'll start answering my own questions :lol:

Associated RC8: 3361 grams (w/o tires) - anyone know what a set of tires weighs?

jhautz - sweet buggy! Did you get the weight of it as just a roller? I think it would be cool to put up all the different buggies in their roller form and what the weight is.

No... Only took the weights after doing the conversion. Sorry.

The roller weight is subjective too. Once you remove all of the "nitro" stuff the battery trays and motor mounts should all just about equal out in the end. You just need to make sure all of them are taking into account the same stuff.

Ok, here's what I've found so far:

RC8: 3629g = 8lbs
D8: 3401g = 7.5lbs
808: 3250g = 7.16lbs
MBX6: 3370g = 7.4lbs
MBX5: 3500g = 7.7lbs
ZMXB-8: 3350g = 7.4lbs

That's all I can find so far - Losi doesn't have specs on their 8ight or 8ight 2.0 and neither does Jammin on the X1 or X2. Looks like jhautz is right so far!

Also found the new Team Magic B8RS buggy is 3200g or 7.05lbs.

What weight is too light? Yeah, it's nice to have a light buggy for better runtime and handling, but on the track, don't you want some weight for traction?

I totally agree - I should have made the title of this thread more about the weight of all buggies . . . not just about the lightest.

My biggest intent was to have all the different weights in one place for reference.

Oh, I see. The tone of the thread seemed like you were after a weightless vehicle. :smile:

No, nothing like that. Just something I've always wondered about - the different weights of the buggies out there. I really find it interesting that Losi and Jammin don't list the weight of their buggies.

as long as it weights more than a 1/10 scale 2wd buggy it should have more than enuff traction. keep in mind your wing is adding down force to increase traction too

we agrue about weight all the time in drag racing, i honestly think there isn't a point where you can be too lite, ever see a smart diablo:lol:

there also comes a point where you sacrifice durability for light weight, i'd rather have durable buggy than a featherweight buggy

i totaly agree with you, but also keep in mind that mass can directly affect durability

Very true

My mbx-5 weighs 9.1lbs....heavy I know, but w/a 5s, it makes up for the weight...

I am trying to lighten it a bit...titanium screw kit, etc...

Wheel/Tire weight is the most important imo, because you have to take into account the wheel and tire rotation in addition to forward motion. Each oz of tire weight accounts for more than 1.5 oz of weight performance wise.

I've had sets of tires and wheels range between 12.15 oz per set to 18.8 oz per set. The panther slicks are the lightest tires ive seen at 44g per tire. Team Associated 83mm wheels are the lightest wheels ive seen 33g per wheel. Also molded foams are about twice the weight of standard foams -11g vs. 6g. Stay away from tires with channels and big knobs.

I've gotten my 8ight down to 7.20 lb rtr with a 30 4100 mah 4s pack.

Speedy, have I ever told you that I love your sig? :yes: Yes, I know- irrelevant. :slap:

i know the rc8 is under 8 pounds. i have a rtr with everything factory team except for the chassis. and it weights 7.6 pounds.

and my buddys mugen weights 7.1something pounds.

and the mbx5r is about 7.6 pounds.

Thanks. :intello:

Great thread...

Considering the Losi 2.0 stuff but I'm leaning toward the heavier Z01-B & T...Just feel like the Losi is too fragile for the abuse brushless dishes out. Could be wrong.

Don't get me wrong, but the parts on the 8ight I think are superior in quality compared to the parts on losi's 1/10 scale stuff. There's also the Xray 808. While it is one of the lightest, is also the strongest according to some. Personally I would just go with whatever chassis suites you and focus more on the weight of the electronics, battery tray, wheels and tires - parts that don't affect the durability and drivability of the vehicle.

I guess one thing that isn't really stated when these weights are given is what is included. All the numbers I found from manufacturers just give the weight . . . is that with a motor and everything? If so, what motor as I'm sure many are different weights. So I guess it may not be as helpful of information as I was trying to put out there.

It would be cool to have all of the rolling chassis of these buggies and weigh them - try to make it apples to apples. I think that would be cool to know. So . . . any voulunteers? :lol:

Does anyone know the weight of the O'donnell Z01-b? I just got one off eBay and was doing the "feel" test against the 8ight roller and it seems way lighter. It has all aluminum drive shafts and some other weight saving things on it. Seems like a really light buggy. Too bad I don't have a scale!

I don't know the weight but the O'Donnell is more like the older generation in terms of weight. One of the Magazine reviews really slammed it because of it's heft. Personally I think it has a light drivetrain and is a beefy, reliable buggy. I built one from scratch and have the truggy on order with my LHS for RC-Monster an electric conversion.

What did you pay for it? Is it in decent shape?

Really? Wow, that really surprises me. I sure wish I had a scale. I got it for $175. It included the RC-Monster motor mount, Tekno battery tray, unpainted body, two sets of tires (one set is bald), and a couple misc. parts.

It's in pretty good shape, but the guy that did the conversion wasn't as "clean" as I like to see. He did several things that weren't thought out well or executed well. Easy to fix, but irritating.

Not sure if I'm going to keep the buggy or not. Did you convert yours to brushless? If so, what did you think of it?

Sounds like a great deal! I kept bugging my LHS about the Truggy and I love to build so he gave me a ZO1-B to build a few weeks ago. I built it and it's for sale at the shop. I did not actually run or convert it but we did have a guy at our track this year who had one and that made me know it was the direction I would move in. It was quick and strong. I've been running Truggy and MT, I may switch to buggy this year, if I do I will get my own ZO1-B.

I've really wanted to get a buggy for a while and was always interested in the Z01b because of the drivetrain. From what I understand it's the freest and lightest on the power source that you can get. I figured that would be ideal for brushless where efficiency is key.

Here's a few pictures of the buggy I got:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/Z01bSide.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...13/Z01bTop.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/Z01bBatt.jpg

Great thread....

What does the 8B 2.0 weigh?? I have it, but I want a lighter buggy....

I know the losi buggys are pretty light. My rc8 to a 8ight is like night and day. But i like the way my rc8 reacts more the the 8ight i had. Now they say the 2.0 buggy is hands down the car to drive right now.

I might pick one up but this is a great thread for sure.

As for me, I've done quite a bit to my 8ight in terms of weight reduction. As soon as i replace the mamba monster with the mamba max pro ill be at roar minimum weight with a zippy 5000 mAh 4s pack, which is 3200g.

Hi guys, I don't know if this is accurate but the lightest buggy in my site is OFNA Ultra MBX R2.

That's not it's final running weight though. About 3.5kg would be nearer. For example, the D8 listed weighs 3.4kg, but that is the RTR weight. As a rolling chassis, it'd be nearer 1.9kg.

With current brushless systems, I wouldn't get caught up on weight.. distribution maybe, but not the weight itself. Well I mean you don't want a tank, as you will get more broken parts, but typical setups are zero issues and a few oz. won't make you a winner or a looser w/ brushless power.

Power isn't the issue. The coefficient of friction between the tires and the ground increases as weight decreases, thus higher lateral grip for faster cornering.

:lol:

you must not race

in racing weight effects everything and there is never a positive to haveing more

I race, took first w/ MT's (e-revo) in the last local pro-series event, took 7th I think in 1/8 e-buggy. Unless your a pro, I'd give you a run for your money or take it :)

I'd agree w/ carpet racing or on-road racing (high grip), but when traction is an issue there is a point where you get too light. If you read what I said with TYPICAL setups (conversion) a few oz will not make a difference... I never said load up and get sick heavy (tank) :) GO back and re-read my statement, I stand by it.

Does a heavier buggy give u a stable advantage? I am converting a x2.

I race a heavy CRT x1 with 6s tons of power n stable. Won many races till now

I've noticed a night and day difference in performance with a 4000 mah 4s pack verses a 5000 mah 4s pack. That is why my next zippy batteries will be a 40c 3000 mah for 10 min mains and 4000 for 15 min mains.

When you decrease weight you also have to change your springs and shock oil, btw. Were not talking about a few ounces of weight. Too many stock conversions are way overweight, half to a full pound over (7.5 to 8lb total).

If so light do u still hv traction?