Ebay Seller welching on our deal..what to do?
 

Bought an item for a great price of ebay, but the seller is welching on the deal. He's being slow to respond, and keeps giving BS stories how he just discovered one part is damaged and returned my 1st payment. I said I wanted it anyway, maybe just give a slight discount (to test his BS.) He finally writes back that he's not interested in selling it now, but may try to resell it later. (too bad bitch it's already sold....)

The deal closed relatively low, but I think he thinks its worth way more than it sold for (tried to sell it for really high min before and had no bids) and is just trying to sell it again later for hopefully more.
Regardless, I still want to get the item, and I'm really pissed he's wasted my time so far. Plus welchers are suck and at this point I might as well F with him for as long as I can before I slam him w/ a - rating.

At the end of the day, I can't force him to put it in a box and send it. What else can I do thru ebay? Got any other ideas for giving him $h1t? Thinking about repaying again (cc paypal), then opening an unsent item dispute... and I'll set it up to watch him and if he relists the item not as being previously "defective", I'll report it to ebay as such and have all the messages which has him describing it as such.

Anyways... I'm pissed.

I would contact ebay! Even though he returned your money he backed out of a contract! Once the item has sold it is SOLD!!! He says it's defective, you say send it anyways, it should be on your door step! Any chance you can make us aware of who this is so we don't buy from him? What was the item? Good luck!

Yep, make payment and then open a dispute thru paypal.. Most likely you will get your money back. You can contact ebay about it too. Maybe they can do something...

If I may ask, what was it? A "near mint" inflatable friend?

Well it was sold as near mint, but he's saying it now has "airleaks" and he's not sure how the new holes got there. Regardless, most of the ones you find are blonds, and I much prefer this one. Brunette with a bit of color, a rarity. I am quite skilled at patching them up, and usually bigger holes than the needle pricks he put into it at that. ;) :no:





Otherwise it also came with a subwoofer to replace the one that got stolen out of my car a couple weeks ago. Thought I found a great deal to get some bass back in my car and this MFer is pulling this crap. I was in a bad mood about it to begin with, so now someones going to pay....

honestly, I don't think ebay will do anything. you can litigate the matter but it's not worth it.

post his ebay id. everyone here with an ebay account can e-mail him telling him what's up. give me his number, I'll call him as a very convincing and threatening "lawyer"!

There isn't much you can do about sellers remo remorse - If you've got your money back you can either leave negative feedback in which case I'm sure you will get a neutral which you will have to fight with ebay to have removed...

Personally I've had it a couple of times and just move on... It isn't worth it...

sellers can only leave positive feedback now

Ebay/Paypal will do nothing for you other than to get your money back, they will not help you get the actual item or an equivalent item, which I think its total BS! I have had the same thing you described happen to me twice now and both items were a steal and both times the seller backed out. The one even went as far as saying that the items were burned up an a house fire and linked to some fake news article. Its too bad because in both cases I wanted the item not the cash and ebay wouldn't do squat for me, I even suggested that they buy out a buy it now auction for me and give me that item for the price I paid, but they wouldnt go for that!

Yeah, at the end of the day I know there is no way I'm going to get the item if he's not willing to send it. I do just want to harrass him as much as reasonable possible for being a dbag. I think I've decided not to pay again, if he doesn't return the funds willingly, I don't want the hassle of going thru paypal to get them. I am going to tell him I want the item as is at the sell price and see what BS he comes up with, file a dispute when the 10 days have passed, then eventually call him out and watch his ass for the relisting and notify ebay as a fraud item as I know he won't list it as previously defective and repaired (claims the voice coil in the woofer is "damaged," but he will fix it for resale in the future... No way he is fixing a voice coil.)
Basically I want to be as big of PITA as possible so he knows it wasn't worth the extra couple bucks he may have made by welching and reselling. Haha, he posted that he hopes there are no hard feelings and he won't get a - rating. He can try and retailiate, but I have plenty of messages from him to back me up (written very diplomatically by me as well) and a prompt payment, so there is no possibilty of complaint against my end.

I figure if no one is ever willing to post - ratings, bad traders don't get ID's and they continue to screw other people over.

post his i.d., i'll help harass him! please please please. i literally have nothing better to do!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

:) Lemme give it a couple days here and see what he does lol

Update
 

So I made several attempts to work things out w/ the seller. It was always my suspicion that he was trying to back out on the deal cuz he thought the item was worth way more than the close. He made up some story about it being damaged, but still refused to sell it either discounted, or later for the full price as-is. There is no logical reason to refuse the latter. Basically I was very diplomatic and courteous and just fed him rope to hang himself.

After the last offer to buy it in-full as-is, I reported his lying ass to fleabay and they track all the emails going back and forth. He was being a [Cheney] the whole time, but then got smacked down by ebay. The email from CS is great. I get to leave feedback (hahaha,) released from buying the item, and he will minimally not have his listing fees refunded and is still responsible for the Final Value Fee. The last part is the important part. If you, as a buyer, agree to cancel a transaction, the seller gets their fees returned. Basically no disincentive to welch. Its better for everybody to report the seller rather than to let things go.
They cannot leave - feedback nor unpaid item claims either, so at least you get the satisfaction of greasing the seller if they stiffed you, and possible banning if they do this often enough.

Best of all, since he claimed the item is damaged, if he tries to list the item again as not being described as damaged, I'll report it again to ebay for fraud using his own words! hahahaha... what a [Richard-head].
Lesson is kids, don't welch, and don't then be a [Nixon] to the people you are trying to stiff.
:yipi:

Its great to be able to be all sugary sweet as the welcher slowly hangs himself and thinks he has done nothing wrong. And when all is said and done you still get to burn his a$$ in the end.

Sure, if dealing with a lesser person he might have gotten away with it. I'm sure he has in the past. But he'll think twice about next time I'm sure. :na:

Is there some OUTRAGEOUS FEE for setting a reserve price???!! It THAT why he didn't do it?- OR is he just friggin stupid??? :rofl: :rofl:

Hey- did anyone else notice how many times the words "dick" and "stiff" appeared in Finnster's last post??? :neutral:

hahaha, how do I really feel about it?
Edited for the not-so-kiddies. :)

There is a fee for a reserve, and the "insertion" fee is higher for a higher initial list price. But, that's the chance you take not paying for the other listing options. If it closes low, then too bad, its sold.

Exactly! :rules: :whip:

You should email the guy a link to this thread... :lol:

I'm glad you got some resolve. I'm still available for online bashing, and have been honing some geurilla warfare skills. Do you fancy the guys spleen?

Ill take his gall bladder, seems some voodoo witch doctor stole mine out of my belly button with a laser and a coat hanger, nice move dr death

What is the addy linked to his paypal account. Surely one of us live near by........

I appreciate the enthusiasm, but I'd rather not take it to that level. He got a severe beating the fair way and I'm quite fine w/ that.

:)

i want my gall bladder

Prolly better threads to post this in but I had this in my subscribed threads

I sold my evx-2 on ebay recently, a potential bidder had asked if I would accept a Money Order, I told them yes but I wouldn't ship until it clears my bank. They won and they lied about when they sent the MO out, wound up taking 9 days for me to receive the MO. I deposited it the next day and have planned on waiting 5 business days for it to clear. They had asked for me to notify them when I received the MO and I did and I explained to them that I was unhappy with being lied to and it would need to clear before I shipped the esc. It has only been in my bank for 3 business days and they are giving me a hard time for not shipping it yet.

HAve I done something wrong? I have never dealt with money orders before and I will never accept them again! I figured 5-7 business days to clear just like a check, am I wrong?

Mo can be the biggest scam out there. Do not accept them, unless you know who is sending them to you. Treat them like checks, when they clear, ship the item. If they have a problem, tell them to take it up with paypal (joke). And sell your stuff on forums, screw ebay. I have 1200 feedback there, but only buy from powersellers now. I hardly ever sell anything, cause you can get screwed. If they are acting weird make sure you track the package... At least they cannot screw you like they can with paypal. I had to refund money to a guy, and I know he received the package. I could not prove it...

Just be careful with MO, they can be faked easily...

I didn't think you had to worry about money orders clearing?

Oh yes. Postal MO are the only safe ones. My friend's dad is a sheriff's detective and there have been tons of MO scams. People would buy an item, and then send a MO that was quite a bit more. They would have you get another MO for the difference and then ship that MO and the item, usually out of the country. Sometimes the MO would post, but then take a few weeks to be found fradulent. Guess what happened to the funds in your acct... gone...

Be wary, payapl may suck but at least if you are honest and cover your ass with tracking and confirmation you are gauranteed the money.

Easy fix.... Use USPS online to buy postage and generate a tracking number.

Give him the tracking no and he'll be happy but you might not get to the PO for a couple of days ;)

I only ever used USPS MO's, but they are a huge waste of time and money. You have to pay for them and ship them out. The seller then has to go to the bank to cash it as well. I'd just rather move things electronically.

OTOH, there is no one he can really complain to. As long as you were clear in your acceptance terms of the MO, even if he complains to ebay, you have the PMs to show the deal. He can wait. If he gives a neg based on slow shipping, you canget it overturned. A major hassle yes, but don't worry too much about it. He's lucky you said that you never recieved the MO and he needs to send another one :)

usps money order no bank involved the seller can cash the money order at the post office get the money and ship the item out.

lol oops edited

:lol: What's the point of that ??

Whoops, I meant to make the payment and open a dispute and that might spur the seller to ship the item...