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Thomas Porfert 01.09.2009 07:03 PM

What's that, 2650Kv's in the building?
 
Nope, you're not dreaming, you heard right, a massive pallet of the Castle Neu 2650Kv (based on the Neu 1512 series) has finally arrived! :yipi:

This first batch will only be packaged with combos, as we don't have quite enough to fulfill all of our current backorders.

But for those of you who have been patiently waiting for the 2650Kv combo, the wait will soon be over! We will be doing some spot testing to verify they're up to spec, and then they'll start rolling out. So get your buggies ready, your LiPo's charged and have some spare parts handy because they'll be up and running shortly.

Remember these are shorter than the 2200Kv (based on the Neu 1515), so they're intended for the 1/8th buggies and not the monster trucks.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

phatmonk 01.09.2009 07:16 PM

Thats too bad its not up to what the real Neu 1515s provide.I have a Tekno Neu 1515/1.5D/F in my truggy its 2700 kv like the CC Neu.Its more than enough power on 4s.

entjoles 01.09.2009 08:22 PM

thanks for the update

himalaya 01.10.2009 12:41 PM

So when will Castle's 1800KV version be ready ? That one is what I am dreaming of, though I already have the 2200KV combo.

Sammus 01.11.2009 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 250630)
Thats too bad its not up to what the real Neu 1515s provide.I have a Tekno Neu 1515/1.5D/F in my truggy its 2700 kv like the CC Neu.Its more than enough power on 4s.

why is it too bad if yours is more than enough? this will likely be more than enough too, but smaller and more suited for car use.

YogyBrushless 01.12.2009 06:13 AM

daarn i need to spend more money now !

sleebus.jones 01.12.2009 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himalaya (Post 250851)
So when will Castle's 1800KV version be ready ? That one is what I am dreaming of, though I already have the 2200KV combo.

Hm, thought it was going to be 1500Kv?

YogyBrushless 01.13.2009 03:23 AM

this motor can handle a 5S right ? i`m asking because i`m getting this for my buggy and i thought i`ll use a 4S for racing and 5S for crazy bashing. it is ok right ?

Yousef

SeanZ0r 01.13.2009 05:21 AM

Can I beta test it please?
http://hybr1d.net/uploader/files/21/mmmplz.jpg
heres a good home

jayjay283 01.13.2009 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YogyBrushless (Post 251675)
this motor can handle a 5S right ? i`m asking because i`m getting this for my buggy and i thought i`ll use a 4S for racing and 5S for crazy bashing. it is ok right ?

Yousef

Differential Ratio: 3.3076923076923075
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 51
Pinion Tooth Count: 15
Total Voltage: 18.5
Motor KV: 2650
Tire Diameter (inches): 4.5
Tire Ballooning (inches): .5
Motor Current Draw: 0
Motor coil Ω: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 3.4 : 1
Total Ratio: 11.24615 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 17.28 inches (438.88 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 49025 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 71.33 mph (114.58 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2650
KT constant: 0.51 oz-in/A

I consider that conservative #s 71mph, call up JZ, way too fast

SpEEdyBL 01.13.2009 04:52 PM

Lets forget about the calculations for now. How do you know a 15 tooth is the right pinion. It could be a 12 tooth and calculated speed would only be about 55 mph. I think Edumkated radared his 1512 1.5D on 4s on 5s and he had speeds of 60 and 70 mph respectively. The Castle-Neu 2650 on 5s has about the same rpm as the 1.5D on 4s.

I plan to run the 2650 on both 4s and 5s for bashing. If you have to use this motor for racing, a high capacity 3s pack would be more suited. If only Castle came out with a version of the 1512 1.5Y, that would be great for racing on 4s-5s.

Arct1k 01.13.2009 04:55 PM

I've run the Castle 2650kv on 5s with no issues in my buggy and geared 20/51 on the GTP2 - Ran fine.

The long jump at the RCM bash was won with a CC 2650 on 5s :)

Arct1k 01.13.2009 04:56 PM

Oh PS it will take 6S :) at just under 60k rpm

YogyBrushless 01.13.2009 05:12 PM

thanks guys i`ll be running 8ight stock gearing so calculations say it 40+ on 4s and 50+ on 5s, i can live with that ;D

Yousef

hemiblas 01.14.2009 01:03 AM

Sounds great Thomas, but I'm still saving up for the 2200 combo.

BL_maxx 01.14.2009 01:58 AM

sorry this might be of topic but are the 2200kv available seperately? like just the motor. i already have the mmm.

Unsullied_Spy 01.14.2009 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_maxx (Post 251990)
sorry this might be of topic but are the 2200kv available seperately? like just the motor. i already have the mmm.

Not for a while. I think they're trying to fill orders for combos, Traxxas, and HPI right now. Once they can keep up with demand they'll be more readily available.

Right now you should be able to find them on eBay if you want one now.

rotary rocket 01.17.2009 01:53 AM

Thank you, my kyosho has been waiting for it...:yipi:

Mike, when do you expect to get your stock? I've been checking the store everyday with no luck.

RC-Monster Mike 01.23.2009 10:08 PM

The 2650 combos are enroute and should arrive next week. :)

hagenmi1 01.26.2009 12:28 AM

So is powering an RC8t with the 2200 way overkill? I like the 2650 but I would rather have more motor if I decided to go over 4s.

bensf 01.26.2009 12:31 AM

Is there any way we can get just the 2650kv motor? Other than eBay that is.

SpEEdyBL 01.26.2009 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagenmi1 (Post 255627)
So is powering an RC8t with the 2200 way overkill? I like the 2650 but I would rather have more motor if I decided to go over 4s.

Put it this way. If you gear the 2200 with a 26 tooth and you gear the 2650 with a 22 tooth you will practically get the same results. Not that you would ever gear that high for either motor, but you get the idea. I have a 2650 kv combo on the way that i will be running on up to 5s. It's the same rpm as the 2200 on 6s so I should be fine for my intended use...

...of showing off in the parking lot for 20 minutes straight that is. lol.

Arct1k 01.26.2009 09:08 AM

Disagree - The 2650 is close to a 1512 and is suitable; for a buggy for a truggy / MT get the 2200 - I've been running both of these motors since september...

You will notice the difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL (Post 255673)
Put it this way. If you gear the 2200 with a 26 tooth and you gear the 2650 with a 22 tooth you will practically get the same results. Not that you would ever gear that high for either motor, but you get the idea. I have a 2650 kv combo on the way that i will be running on up to 5s. It's the same rpm as the 2200 on 6s so I should be fine for my intended use...

...of showing off in the parking lot for 20 minutes straight that is. lol.


hagenmi1 01.26.2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL (Post 255673)
Put it this way. If you gear the 2200 with a 26 tooth and you gear the 2650 with a 22 tooth you will practically get the same results. Not that you would ever gear that high for either motor, but you get the idea. I have a 2650 kv combo on the way that i will be running on up to 5s. It's the same rpm as the 2200 on 6s so I should be fine for my intended use...

...of showing off in the parking lot for 20 minutes straight that is. lol.

That's what I was thinking for the RC8t. It seems with the lower kv you have more room to play with the battery. THX, I'm getting back into since the electric hay day of the RC10 so I'm learning.

SpEEdyBL 01.26.2009 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 255700)
Disagree - The 2650 is close to a 1512 and is suitable; for a buggy for a truggy / MT get the 2200 - I've been running both of these motors since september...

You will notice the difference.

You have tried both the 2200 and the 2650 in the same vehicle, geared to go the same speed? Was there a difference in the powerband?

I am aware that the 2650 is a 1512 and the 2200 is a 1515, but since they are both 1Y they will have roughly the same resistance and the charts of the neu motors confirm this comparing two lengths of the same wind. Actually the 2200 should have a touch more resistance due to the longer coils, but theoretically, if the resistance is the same in both motors, amp draw will be the same and therefore power since power = volts x amps.

Arct1k 01.26.2009 09:10 PM

I ran both on a GTP with similar gearing - obviously the 2200 is slower - will try to get some measurements on eagletree but that will be a while....

rotary rocket 01.26.2009 09:22 PM

Sorry for being off topic...

Bensf, I live in Moraga. I guess we are neighbors. Where do you bash? We should get together one of these days and run our trucks.

Now back on topic. I read a posting by CC that mentions they prefer the 2200 even in a buggy! Now I'm confused, I thought they made the 2650 for 1/8th buggies!!!

SpEEdyBL 01.27.2009 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 255898)
I ran both on a GTP with similar gearing - obviously the 2200 is slower - will try to get some measurements on eagletree but that will be a while....

That would be cool if you could get some measurements. What i meant was the 2200 geared with a pinion gear 26.5/22 = 1.2 times as big to get the same top speed for both motors, thats all.

Unsullied_Spy 01.27.2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rotary rocket (Post 255904)
Now back on topic. I read a posting by CC that mentions they prefer the 2200 even in a buggy! Now I'm confused, I thought they made the 2650 for 1/8th buggies!!!

If you want a 70+ MPH Buggy go for the 2200. If you want it to be controllable I'd stick to the 2650.

KINGSKID 01.29.2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 250626)
Nope, you're not dreaming, you heard right, a massive pallet of the Castle Neu 2650Kv (based on the Neu 1512 series) has finally arrived! :yipi:

This first batch will only be packaged with combos, as we don't have quite enough to fulfill all of our current backorders.

But for those of you who have been patiently waiting for the 2650Kv combo, the wait will soon be over! We will be doing some spot testing to verify they're up to spec, and then they'll start rolling out. So get your buggies ready, your LiPo's charged and have some spare parts handy because they'll be up and running shortly.

Remember these are shorter than the 2200Kv (based on the Neu 1515), so they're intended for the 1/8th buggies and not the monster trucks.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

Thomas,when do you think we'll be able to buy the motors only?


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