Hexcrews or Rcscrewz?
 

Which do you like better? Which set would be lighter?
www.hexcrews.com
www.rcscrewz.com

I've bought both and like the Hexcrews better. Seem higher quality and are black, not silver.

rcscrewz are crap... I prefer the stuff from mcmaster carr, or whatever comes on traxxas vehicles.

too soft.
 

RC screws are too soft. I really like the armour plated "HexHead Screws". I don't know about being any liter, but they sure seem tougher to me. The heads do not strip out as easily as some others. I have some titanium screws as well, but they just cost too dammed much. Anything is better than phillips head screws for sure.

or you can use the pretty reliable but somewhat expensive Tony's Screws...i haven't stripped one yet and I've owned Hexcrews/rcscrewz...and IMHO Tony's are the best...

I buy all my grade 12.9 screws and grade 14.9 setscrews from boltdepot.com. You can buy the screws individually or box of 100's.

RCSCREWZ = Total waste of money. Hexcrews all the way.

Thanks
 

Thanks for the tip Lito. I will be placing an order with them and try their screws out. Plus any time you can get bulk orders and save money thats a good thing. That is the one thing I have hated about buying kits from some of the R/C suppliers. They only have small kits with a limited amount of screws in them. Kind of a waste if you ask me. Thats why when I found VXB bearings I placed an order of nearly 200 stainless steel sealed bearings. Now if we can find wholesale LIpo cells and make our own Lipo packs that would be just awesome.

You can't beat Hexcrews Armour-plated screws IMO. Alloy steel (can't remember what grade, but it's good stuff) and nickel-plated to prevent corrosion. I've never stripped, bent or sheared a single one, and I've used probably hundreds. RC Screws are just stainless steel, and way too soft for serious use. Might be good for a shelf queen, but that's about it.

George, do you not find grade 14.9 to be brittle? I've not used them in RC before so just shout me down if I'm wrong, but I'd have thought they'd shear more easily in hard impacts?

Dagger, so far, I haven't had any problems with the grade 14.9 screws. Never strip or break any of them. I used them on my pinions and hinge pins. Bolt depot is cheap too.

Jerry, ask your contacts in Korea where to buy those enerland lipo cells. You might be able to buy them cheap wince the won is very weak against the dollar.

I'll check
 

Thanks Lito I will have to check that out once I get out in the local community. I would not mind building my own packs if I could get the cells cheap enough. I also really like the armour plated "HexHead Screws". The stainless screws suck, and the black oxide don't seem to hold up to the torque of tightening things up. Those hexheads are pretty good screws for the money. I will try out the 14.9 screws just to see how they compare.

The AP Hexcrews make the Tony's Screw Kit almost seem affordable.

I've have both and prefer the Hexcrews. I have barely dipped into the Tony's kit. I just keep restocking my hexcrews kit with the individual screws that I use.

Sidenote: Tony's a great guy to deal with no matter what your business is with him.

Always been a Tony's fan, but that boltdepot.com looks interesting. I may look into them next time I need some supplies. Tony offers a good product and is a good guy to deal with.

http://mutualscrew.com/ is one too, but boltdepot is cheaper. I have bought from them many times, I have a few thousand screws and bolts for my rigs here. PERFECT for crawler builds, just have an assortment on hand.

Black oxide screws are nice and strong. Stainless tends to bend and shear much easier.

I will agree that rcscrews do suck. The heads strip easily. I either use M3/4 Traxxas black screws because the LHS carries them, Trx has a pretty good selection, and they are durable.

However, I've used RTL Fasteners to stock up on common screws, or to get odd sizes. Pretty good selection and they also have washers and locknuts.

I'm liking Tony's kit for my truggy, if I went with hexcrews I wouls have to buy the screws individually. Here is the kit, it is a bit pricey but I don't mind.
http://www.tonysscrews.com/product.s...&productId=385

the good thingabout hexscrews is that even countersunk head screws are 12.9grade unlike many stores that offer only 10.8.

I use both AP and standard screws

I just wish they had more M3.5 screws as they are quite common on 1/8 buggies/truggies

Another vote for Tony's. Changed all my E-Maxx screws out no problems.

I have a couple/few sets from Tony'sScrews too. They are strong, the heads grip the driver very tight, and -as has been mentioned multiple times - Tony is an excellent guy to deal with. I've tried stainless... ummm, they look nice at first. That's the best I can say about them. I haven't ever tried Hexcrews because I heard they are expensive.

I get alot of screws from McMaster Carr as well. They are the cheapest for bulk boxes of screws. 100qty of 3x10mm flatheads are only $6.72.
The flat and button heads do only come in 10.9, socket heads are 12.9. In my experience there hasn't been much of a difference between 10.9 & 12.9. The diff in tensile strength is just ~15%, and shearing str is just a fraction of that (which is how most of my bolts fail.) Both are better than 8.8, which alot of packaged RC bolts are.
The only crappy part is that you have to buy larger quantities, but if you are looking for them, they seem the best way to go. I tend to get boxes of common screw sizes (such as 3x10mm PH ) MMC is good about having tons of uncommon styles and sizes as well which can be useful.

McMaster is grrrrr-eat for getting bunches of stuff. I usually have my cousin add my orders to his large industrial orders, so I don't know how much they charge for shipping. Is there a shipping estimate or rate table on the site somewhere? Thank you.

Well... For the most part, MMC's shipping is very cheap and fast. Usually my orders have been $4 shipping and I recieve it the next day.

But...MMC does primarily sell to industrial customers, so they don't care about shipping, so in the order checkout MMC doesn't list shipping. Only on the final bill you recieve. Once I had an order which they split up into 3 boxes, one a long tube as I ordered some stock plastic, and the shipping charge was over $50 on a $30 order. Needless to say I was pissed. I called them and explained the situation, and they did refund the shipping w/ appologies. They did explain that their customers are mostly bigger businesses, and they are interested in faster shipping, sometimes items get packed in their own boxes rather than packed down (to save shipping) if they are coming from diff parts of the warehouse. They only charge actual shipping, andit depends on how things come into the warehouse.

Needless to say I'm now careful what and how I order. Small parts, screws and sm tools are always cheap. Most my orders are this and all has been very very cheap. Long lengths of stock plastic, lg irregular items, I'd be careful about.

I always order from McMaster, they have everything and then some. I see no sense in ordering screws from rc places that charge 1000% markups and more to put packages of screws together they only buy from McMaster or similar places themselves. Yeah I know the rc screw resellers separate them for you and put them in plastic cases you can get in bulk from the dollar store and add cheap little L style allen wrenches but come on..........

12.9 grade black oxide is 12.9 grade black oxide no matter where you get them, ASME controls the specs and standards, not the manufacturer.

Thanks for the other link Lito, I will check out boltdepot.com sometime as well.

Thanks lito.
 

Thanks for the other link Lito, I will check out boltdepot.com sometime as well.

I second that one. I went to their site last night and placed a $100 order for 1000 bulk screws of 12.9 steel. That should keep us busy here at the Hill household for a while without having to get more. I really like what they have and it is easy to place the orders. Thank you for the link Sir. I did the same thing with VXB bearings a while back and got a crapp load of stainless sealed bearings and they are great bearings, which a lot of the R/C suppliers get their supplies from. Except that I paid much less for them by skipping the middle man. We need all of the breaks that we can get in this hobby.

www.microfasteners.com :yes:

All right!!!!
 

Dear Mr. JERRY HILL,

Your order 175656 has now been processed and shipped via UPS 2nd Day
Air.

Note: Part of your order was shipped directly from our supplier.
The order may arrive in more than one shipment.

That was fast. I just placed the order a few hours ago, and it is already on its way. Yippeeee.

How did you get them to ship UPS? Did you use your military or local address?

Us gov.
 

When UPS is the only delivery service that they will use, I use a US Embassy mailing address. It is technically the same as an APO or FPO, but without saying so for secutiry reasons. It is a Dulles, Va mailing address. Just another perk of the job.

No wonder. I can only use USPS unless I want to pay big bucks for Fedex.

Ups or usps.
 

Yea I don't get the whole UPS thing about not delivering to APO's & FPO's. Why is that such a problem? I guess since technically speaking the APO & FPO are federal mailing addresses, they will not allow outside companies to use that system. So only USPS is allowed because it is a goverment run business as well. Luckily we have alternatives through my wife's job. I tell you this division of goverment office treats it's poeple better, then any other. Especially the military as we both know. I will give you my take on the screws when they arrive. 1000 12.9 steel screws for $100 is a great deal as far as I am concerned. I doubt that I will do it any other way from here on out. Thanks for the tip.