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Joe Ford 02.16.2009 04:25 PM

Monster Max motors now for sale individually!!!
 
http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...le_motors.html

BL_RV0 02.16.2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM motor sale page (Post 262316)
The more common Asian motors tend to show....

:lol:

johnrobholmes 02.16.2009 05:25 PM

The heat difference between my feigao and CC 1515 was incredible. 50 degree day, both motors weighed the same, the FG was 170f and the CC was 80f. The CC motor was faster too.

TexasSP 02.16.2009 06:27 PM

Dang, I can get them from Mike here for 140........

The CC price is 199 :gasp:

Joe Ford 02.16.2009 06:30 PM

Better not tell the repair people that if you want a warranty...

hemiblas 02.16.2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 262334)
The heat difference between my feigao and CC 1515 was incredible. 50 degree day, both motors weighed the same, the FG was 170f and the CC was 80f. The CC motor was faster too.

As much as I love my Feigao 7XL for torque and speed I finally picked up a 2200 and the heat difference is night and day like you said. I've got an emaxx with the 7XL and one now with the Castle motor. Even on 4S I could tell the accelleration difference between the two with the Castle pulling ahead even on batteries that arent rated as high as ones in the truck with the 7XL. When you put 5S on the CC motor its rolling wheelies at any speed and enough speed so I cant go full throttle any more as the speed just gets to be a bit much. Funny thing is the temps are still lower on 5S geared for 55mph than the feigao on 4S geared for 40mph.

I think Castle is referring to my blue LED powered Feigao motor when they talk about motors that need fans and gimmicks. And sadly enough this fan didnt work as well as it looks. I'll have to take a picture of my dual 40mm fan heatsink I run during summer one day for some good laughs.

emaxxnitro 02.16.2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Ford (Post 262358)
Better not tell the repair people that if you want a warranty...

lol! good one joe! :party:

TexasSP 02.16.2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Ford (Post 262358)
Better not tell the repair people that if you want a warranty...

So you won't honor new sales of a motor from an authorized vendor? By Mike I am speaking of www.rc-monster.com, the place you are posting this.

You may want to rethink this one Joe......

SpEEdyBL 02.16.2009 10:26 PM

Why is the max voltage for the 2650 16.8v/4s? On 5s its the same rpm as the 2200 on 6s. I run my 2650 on 5s no problem, but i would hope to still have a warranty.

himalaya 02.17.2009 06:18 AM

Finally!
So WHEN the 1800KV one ?

YogyBrushless 02.17.2009 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL (Post 262409)
Why is the max voltage for the 2650 16.8v/4s? On 5s its the same rpm as the 2200 on 6s. I run my 2650 on 5s no problem, but i would hope to still have a warranty.

ditto that question :neutral:

petewalford17 02.17.2009 08:15 AM

drop the price

Arct1k 02.17.2009 11:07 AM

castle are just quoting full retail price... It was be in the shops for normally a 1/3 less...

Joe Ford 02.17.2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 262406)
So you won't honor new sales of a motor from an authorized vendor? By Mike I am speaking of www.rc-monster.com, the place you are posting this.

You may want to rethink this one Joe......

Update from Patrick....We're making an exception for Mike...normally we would not warranty the product since Mike would technically be the original purchaser. We like Mike though.

Joe Ford 02.17.2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL (Post 262409)
Why is the max voltage for the 2650 16.8v/4s? On 5s its the same rpm as the 2200 on 6s. I run my 2650 on 5s no problem, but i would hope to still have a warranty.

Because anything over 4s the motor can overheat if you're not careful. You can do it, but read this first.

I think we are all missing something here....


A Warranty covers an item against manufacturing defects.

So, if we built a Mamba Monster that had a bad MOSFET on board, and that FET blew during normal use, we will cover the Mamba Monster under warranty.

Tech support gives recommendations of what they know works. If you venture far outside of that realm, they will tell you that failures will probably be considered an "Overcurrent" or "abuse" failure -- which wouldn't be covered under warranty.

All warranties work this way. If you blow your clutch on your Toyota Corolla while street racing, Toyota isn't going to cover it under warranty. If you don't change the oil in your Toyota, they aren't going to cover that either.

A Warranty is to cover a consumer in the case that they get a defective component from a manufacturer. There is always some small number of pieces/parts manufactured that have an issue - -so the warranty there is to protect the consumer against defects of manufacturing.

A Warranty does not cover neglect (you get grass in your transmission and it eats up the gears, bad bearings in the wheels which you don't replace, you get dirt all crammed up in your ESC... etc)

A Warranty does not cover abuse (you use a 5500Kv motor with 6S, you run a setup that draws 2000A during acceleration, you try to run a 1/5th scale 4wd buggy with a Mamba Monster, you smash your Mamba Monster with a hammer, etc....)

A Warranty does not cover stupidity (you try to run a Monster with 8S Lipo, you jump your car over your house, you run over your 1/8th scale buggy with your 1:1 scale SUV, etc...)

SO -- what your warranty covers is defective Mamba Monsters.

If you want to experiment -- go ahead. Just don't be too surprised that if you damage your Mamba Monster from over current, that it won't be covered.

If you are careful, you shouldn't have any problems. If you do have a problem, we have a non-warranty replacement policy.

Under the non-warranty replacement policy, we will cover EVERYTHING. (Including hitting your Mamba Monster with a hammer.) The non-warranty replacement is only $70.00 -- so if $70.00 doesn't seem like a hefty penalty for doing whatever you want with your Mamba Monster... GO FOR IT!


If $70.00 to cover abuse seems excessive -- then you can take the advice of Tech Support (remember -- they can only comment on what they have tried -- so anything outside of what they personally have used will get the same "That might be outside your warranty coverage" answer...) and only try things that we have personally tried here at Castle, and know work well.

WE WILL ALWAYS cover (under warranty) any Castle controller that has a warranty issue -- if the controller damage is caused by a defect in a component in the controller, or a defect caused during manufacturing.


Thank you for listening to me rant!!!!

Patrick


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Patrick del Castillo
President, Principle Engineer
Castle Creations


No idea on the 1800kv motors guys. I'm running one in my RC8 on 6s and it's a blast! You guys will love it. :)

skellyo 02.17.2009 01:46 PM

Joe - Have you heard from Patrick anything about the Beta testing of the 1800kv and 1500kv motors? We haven't seen him on here in over a week.

Joe Ford 02.17.2009 01:52 PM

Last sentence of my last post.

No idea on the 1800kv motors guys. I'm running one in my RC8 on 6s and it's a blast! You guys will love it. :)

TexasSP 02.17.2009 05:44 PM

Got a kick out of your post Joe!

I remember a guy on the celica forums complaining that Toyota wouldn't cover his blown engine. Want to know why? Because several of the Toyota mechanics had personally witnessed him racing it at the local drag strip. The idiot then tried another dealership, but I guess he didn't realize Toyota dealers are connected via a commen database and warranties are handled centrally via Toyota corporate. Yet Toyota still was wrong in his mind........things that make you go hmmmmmm!

Keep in mind while reading type it isn't always clear but my original posts were somewhat tongue in cheek. Just figured I would throw it out before the "real" whiners and moaners latched onto it.

Joe Ford 02.17.2009 05:49 PM

LOL is all I can say about that one.

magman 02.17.2009 10:32 PM

I also can't wait for he 1800kv motor..

gixxer 02.17.2009 11:10 PM

1800kv sounds great to me for a buggy. looking forward to hearing more on these motors.

ZippyBasher 02.18.2009 01:11 AM

+1 here definately will buy one of these 1800kv when they become available. Just think the 2200 was too much for constant 6s bashing as this is all I have now.

drkros3 02.18.2009 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Ford (Post 262605)
No idea on the 1800kv motors guys. I'm running one in my RC8 on 6s and it's a blast! You guys will love it. :)

that makes me want it even more now lol.


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