1/10 ST racing
 

Guys, thought today about getting a 1/10 ST to try out "stock class" racing. What do you think? What do you recommend as a good setup?

CRT .5 w/ extended chassis... skip the stock class though.:diablo:

:lol: Ok maybe I will. Maybe a medusa 50mm and a sidewinder on 2s then? (I don't want a CRT .5 though, they won't allow that in ST racing.

Nah, don't got for that small ball crap.... Get an 80mm medusa and run on as least 6s.:mdr:

Normally they'll limit you pretty bad. 6 cells or probably 2S lipo, stock motor (most likely no brushless in stock class since its exactly that a stock motor class), 2wd ST of course, along with a bunch of other specific crap. when I was running stock buggy we couldn't even use NiMHs...and that was when the NiMH were really starting to take off and get popular. I would probably get a Losi though...I could run circles around the AEs with my XXX BK.

rusty xl5 or VXL...

That would be a good truck as far as durability, parts availability, low cost, but its not that great for a race track.

What about a jato?

There better for the track, but from what little I've seen on converted Jatos, they don't have any traction what so ever. Thats why the motor is over the rear end on all the electric stadium trucks and buggies.

I have a vxl rustler, I am planning to sell to fund a racing project. Do they have any "mod" classes? What are the limits there?

get a T4 team kit (not the FT! not worth the money and beak easier) check and see what classes they run at your local track, (most run a 10.5 spec class, or a mod/open class) and some run a 13.5 spec class if these are the case youll have to waste your money of a spec system but if they would allow it i would go for a MM or sidewinder with a 3300 medusa 50mm motor and a good 2s enerland 5000 pack...... gear it for mid to upper 30s and youll be good to go. also youll want to switch to 25wt oil and green springs in the rear over the standard setup to compensate for the lighter lipo setup, that or my advice would be to add stick on lead weights down the side of the tray.....

Skip the AE and get the xxxt-cr losi truck. I have a xxx-cr buggy and it is an exceptionally strong and light vehicle. Very well engineered and the manual is about the best I have seen. Plus the price is decent, especially for everything you get. If you want to win, this is your best bet. It will run circles around a rusty...

Yup. He'll also run circles around a AE. :mdr:
My buggy was the best flying buggy I've ever driven. It flew as straight and level as possible.

I beat the crap out of mine, and it took it like a champ. I broke one arm, thats it. Still feels smooth and no slack.

Honestly, my old BK use to break parts pretty easily, but it was mostly cause of all the graphite I think.

GO Rustler!! Woooooo!!!!!!! :lol:

yea the xxx-t cr is a good choice but i like the way the AE drives over the losi, jmo of course my T4 had the J82 kit on it which really changes the handling.......

Ok so it is between the XXX-T CR and the T4 team kit. Which do all of you prefer?

If it was me, and standing on the outside with no iron in this fire, I would go with the losi.

Ditto. Personally though, I would get a buggy. People say there harder to drive, but thats only cause there more precise, which I think makes it easier to drive. Just me though...

The AE and Losi both use standard screws, right?

How about this?
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/33512

Would be easier to drive and handle better.

You're gunna like that a hell of a lot more then a 2wd if you're like me. Just make sure to do your research before you buy one.

Yeah, found out the V1 SB pro has notoriously weak diffs. Back to the drawing board.... I'm thinking the tamiya durga now. Opinions??

Just make sure you local track has a class. 4wd buggy isn't very popular. Have you looked into the Losi XXX4?

Also take a look at the Hot Bodies D4... uses metric screws and from what I have read about it, it is one of the strongest 4wd buggies around and has extremely good handling.

My track does run a class judging by this picture on their race page:
http://hotrodhobbies.com/Racing.htm
jnev- I'm really not looking to spend that much now- if I get seriously into it I will spend more on a better kit.

I personally like the CRT .5...

yes the losi and AE both use standard hardware.... go out to the track on a race day and see what everyone runs and what they the shop keeps parts for and then make yoru choice, cant go wrong with a D4, b44 or lazer sp, and if youd like a D4 one of our local guys has a almost new one forsale with all the upgrades and its in your price range i bet.

I had a SB V1 pro and it was a great buggy. The diffs are ok, but the outdrives are weak. They tend to split open after a while. A collar on the outdrives fixes it up just fine. Parts may be an issue though since only a few shops like Stormer stock Academy parts.

I hear the GV2 pro buggy is pretty nice. I'm temped to get one since I have a 540s motor just lying around doing nothing...

How much use on it?

had a a few days of practice and one race and only $230, but nvm i just asked him about it for you and he sold it this morning.... they are very nice though,but if i was buying new i wouldnt pay the extra $75 for one over a lazer sp or a b44.

Forgot all about the D4. I would DEFINITELY get the D4 over most others. For me, it would be the B44 FT, D4 WCC, or the Losi XXX-4 Graphite plus. Major deciding factor is parts availability. I'd honestly lean toward the D4 WCC though. HB makes good stuff.

Truck wise I would go with a xxx-t. I have one and race it and I LOVE IT! I've driven T4 and I still love the way the xxx-t jumps, and handels. Its durability is amazing. I've driven down our local tracks straight and been bumped into the I beam and have driven away.

Just my .2

thats funny, cus actually today, i thought about getting a 1/10 buggy not ST
as well.
but i want a older model just cus its cheaper. i was looking at a AE b3 or the XXX bk .but after reading linc's and squeeforever, i may just go with the losi. but what worried me was the hydra drive??? what in the world is that? so does that mean i have to keep it lubed or itll dry up? i would buy this buggy used, so how would i know if he kept it lubed or in good condition? and lastly, do these buggies handle BL power well? will i need to upgrade anything or stock will work?

hmm..after a bit more researching.. the AE drive train is far superior than losi's.
and even the truck/buggy is more durable.
but Bl_rvo, since your going stock, id recommend losi,from what ive been hearing, they handle better, their suspension is better than AE.
now it leads me to wondering if i should get a ST...but i wanted to stay away from ground clearance and bigger tires because im sick of my emaxx flipping/rolling on turns.
i would think a ST will do the same which is why i want to go with a buggy.

First off, Losi all the way as far as 2wd buggy or ST goes. Second, if you keep the slipper and the diff adjusted properly, no need to worry. About the only thing I would do is but better bearings on the outdrives. I had a few sets go bad from the seals coming of and getting dirt in there. Also, a ST won't roll like a Maxx. There MUCH lower, about like a buggy, just longer arms and slightly taller tires. I'd get something like the BK2 or the MF2. As far as upgrades, get the aluminum arm mounts front and rear. Especially the rear. Thats the weakest link. Also get the RPM gear cover. I trashed so many of the stockers its not funny. Thats about it as far as hopups concerning strength. Every thing else is mostly looks.

im glad u posted. i almost just bought a vxl bandit roller LOL. only because its brushless power proven. i didnt want to have to rebuild or toughen the diffs on the AE b3 or the losi bk...but if you say theyre good to go and all i have to do is loosen the slipper, then back to my original choice..LOSI.
yea i know ST sits lower, but i would thought that they would still roll when doing turns at high speeds...heck i see buggies flipping on turns, and they sit real low, which made me thought that STs would definetly flip more. so from your experience, does ST's flip less since they got wider tires and longer arms than buggies...say if i lowered the ST to the lowest suspension?

A ST will sit almost just as low as a buggy. The way to set it up, as far as racing goes, is rear arms slightly below level, and the front level. Set up a ST like that, and its only a VERY little bit higher, maybe a 1/4" or slightly more. The ST should be a little more stable with the wider tires and longer arms, but a buggy setup right is VERY stable. If you hit a hole though, its gonna roll, but thats not because of a high CG. A truck is gonna be easier to drive for most, but I found a buggy to actually handle better because there just more nimble and agile.
Oh, and I didn't say loosen the slipper, I said adjust it properly. To loose and you'll burn it up, to tight and it'll wheelie and might start breaking parts like the diff. The only major thing is to adjust the diff correctly. It has a screw inside one of the diff cups (left I think) and just just use a small allen and in there to hold the screw then turn the opposite wheel to loosen or tighten it. Again, to tight will possible break something, act like the rear is locked, as well as possibly damage the diff, but to loose and it'll wear out the ball bearings inside the gear. Its not difficult, but requires minor adjustments periodically. Its pretty easy to do once you get the hang of it. Hell, I was setting my diff, slipper, suspention for racing when I was 10.