New flux broke rear turnbuckle would like to eliminate them. Options?
 

So after cartwheeling my new flux I ripped one of the end links out of the rear turnbuckles. I know on my e maxx I bought the true track conversion to get rid of the stupid turnbuckles what are my options on the flux. Sorry if its been asked before im a noob to the savage. Thanks.

Unelss you want to spend ~$150 on the HPI suspension kit, this will be your only option:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...4&I=LXPZN1&P=K
I know it's Integy, and it sucks, but several others and myself have been using these without ANY major issues. There are some fitment issues sometimes, but once you get past that they work great.

Has anyone ever tired a truggy or other rear upright? The hellfire uses the same upper arms, but the hingepin is only 3mm. Integy is easiest, but hard to believe no one else ever came up w/ something.

Looks like the hellfire rear hub is flatter than the integy part, so a longer upper arm would be required to make it fit. Not sure if that would be a bad thing. A longer arm would reduce the amount of added negative camber during suspension compression. It may actualy add so pos camber, Not sure of the current geometry.

As far as options, the integy and atomic make one piece rear hubs. The atomic look a bit more solid, but I have not heard much on them. I plan to run the integy ones and see if they can handle the abuse...

I just looked at the HPI upgrade kit that MM mentioned and the atomic rear hub looks like a direct knock off... Maybe better than the integy? Looks a bit thicker. However the atomic does not list different #s for left and right, so I guess it is zero toe angle?

Couldn't a flat bar be made to replace the turnbuckle? Just gotta make sure the length is just right...

If the turnbuckle were the only part that broke, that would be a great fix. However, the knuckle arm also breaks, so using a rear upright eliminates both of those points of failure.

And of course, by going with the Integy rear uprights, you save weight since they weigh only half of the stock parts they replace (toe links, knuckles, hubs).

Hadn't heard of the Atomic RC rear uprights before...
http://www.rcatomic.com/atomic/index...emart&Itemid=1
They do look like they'd be pretty solid, but also heavier than the Integy. And they use E-clips :cry:
They are cheaper than the Integy uprights, though:
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-sav...th=595_737_395

Thanks for all the help, I will look into the atomic hubs, I just cant put an integy part on anything of mine

...the HPI units come with toe-in built-in them too...

...The Atomics look OK...i would certainly consider them after a review...

I have the Atomics on order and I currently have a set of the Integy on the truck.
I dont usually buy anything Integy, but they were the only ones I could find at the time.
The atomics should be here early next week.
Does anyone have a link to HPI upgrade kit?

A common and easy mod is to join the knuckle and hub with an alu angle thingy. Easy to do.

You can see one in this pic, if you look hard :lol:

http://rc-dc.ch/gallery/displayimage...lbum=14&pos=25
(click for bigger pic!)

I have the integy set, their nice but the hinge pins are very weak bent mine in one run so I put in the savage ones and just used spacers since their longer then the integys.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...k/b8dafb2d.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...k/0c496f30.jpg
Here was my homemade lock pieces, worked and all but ugly lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...k/b0f96095.jpg

Old thread but I've been browsing the savage forum looking for ideas and came across these that are listed for the XL. I don't own the X only the XL but I thought they used the same carries. Why they have these listed for the XL and not the X I am not sure but just thought I would toss them out there. Looks like a copy of the Atomic ones that were mentioned earlier in the thread.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...1&I=LXWSY0&P=K

I doubt Integy would copy someone elses product. Right?


I got some alum uprights because of the plastic dog ears kept breaking off and on one them the inside bearing fit is really loose and that makes for a sloppy tire. I try to shim the outside of the bearing with alum duct tape which help a little for a little while. So.....

For those that own the atomic and integy ones mentioned in this thread. How do the bearing fit? Are they tight or do they have some slop in them?

Sarcasm, right?

Because that's what they always do.

Yeah, just a little. Now where Linc at? I fell for one of his RICKED links in an old thread. Funny at first but it got really irritating and now I have a dead cat stuck in the sheet rock!

lol I ended up getting the atomic ones they worked out pretty well so far, we still need to get together for some bashing after I repair my flux

Guy, I put the Integy's on my Flux, and the bearing fit very snug. I didn't have to use a hammer or a press to get it in, but I had to use the axle to guide it to make sure it was aligned perfectly to go in. I was very happy with them. After the fact I also saw in Mikes store that FLM makes one too - just not sure what model its for. http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail.php?prod=FLM26900
It would really be nice if Mike could find someone to go through the store and update the descriptions for items such as this.

If I was to guess, I would say that those are for the Rustler.
I do agree that the RCM webstore could use some updating. Its very hard to find certain things, and some of the desc are a bit lacking. EG. the batt section, lots of different batts are just jumbled together in no decernable order for size, price, brand, cell count, etc. You gotta flip thru pages to find what you want. Eh, I know Mike is super busy, but it turns some people off. Its not a complaint I've heard only once on various forums around the web.


It sounds like the hub carriers listed are really the only way to go. There are alum steering blocks out there too. They solve the weak dogear prob, but you still have a turnbuckle. The stock turnbuckles are really crappy. I ended up replacing mine w/ hellfire turnbuckles and ends. Much beefier.

If Im honest, I've thought the RCM store is in need of a spruce up- some descriptions are very good, others are a tad lacking, along with some of the pictures & yeah, the order needs some reworking. If Mike is too busy, then perhaps a mod or trusted members could be given access to tidy things up a bit- even if its just the pictures and the order of items, and leave the descriptions alone incase of getting too personal?

I've got those carriers. I assumed they would fit too since the Sav Flux is supposed to have the same uprights as the XL. Truck is all in pieces right now so I can swap out the phillips head screws for hex but I should have it all together by the end of the weekend with a few additonal upgrades including the carriers.

I'm not a particularly big fan of Integy either but if the part fits well and holds up then I'll give them credit on this item.

For the front of the truck I'm hoping the servo saver will keep the knuckle from breaking. I also think the turbuckle looks a little thin so I'll be running the Hellfire turnbuckle as well (I'm fine with the steel M5X60mm). Works out well in my E-Sav so I'll run it on this truck as well.

The stock turnbuckles didn't last long on mine either. Have Kyosho STRR turnbuckles there now. A bit too beefy maybe but even they get loose after a while and sloppy wheels are a pet peeve of mine.

Let us know how the new ones fit and work out Darkwav. The atomics are out of stock at RC-Mart right now so still trying to make up my mind and looking at conversions for the XL. It's starting to get that time of year where I convert my nitros back to brushless for the winter.

Jeff, the ones you linked to are for the Rustler. The bearing fit in the integy sounds promissing. Atleast on these integy parts it looks like they added some bulk to the areas that will see the most stress.

Just to poke a little fun at Mike, he does have 19 pages of new (old) items if you go through them all in the NEW STUFF link....

EvilMax let me know when your ready.

Yeah I used the HF 5x60mm buckles as well. The nice thing too is the ends are the same as the ones that are used on the adj arm kit for the savage, so I have lots of spares. They are for std truggy size balls as well. So far I just have upgraded the tierods on the str. I'm thinking of doing a four wheel steering mod and using the same HF rods and ends for the rear str as well. I have the servo and servo saver, so I just need to order the buckles and I should be set. Think I'll order the FLM rack so I don't need to open up the rear tvps so much either.