The best motor for heavy Savage
 

Hallo boys I wanted to ask to you which motor I can use on mine savage (6,5kg)best of BK 9XL, lehner the 1940 clearly offer an increase of the performance?Or that motor advised to me?

You can go for the 1940 or the 1950 motors, but make sure to choose one with a low turn which can pull your truck at ease and deliver you satisfying speed.

on 20 cells a 10XL or 11XL would be my choice.. (or a 1950, in the same KV range)

If there is a motor of a short rotor and another one of a long rotor and both of them are identical in the kv range, what could be the difference?

torque.

You mean the short might get hotter than the long using the same gear ratio and no. of cells, right?

yep i think thats right, longer=more torque

My biggest concern is that I want to pull my maxx to hi 40s or mid 50s with a rotor between the length of a 1930 and 1940. The kv is around 1300.

That is a lot to ask of a fairly small motor(can do it, but it is working pretty hard). 1940/1950/Wanderer xl motors would be the best choices IMO.

You mean my chance of reaching such velocity with a 59mm long 35 wide motor is minimal?

small block - big block
short stroke - long stroke

small block, short stroke - 6-turn short can (ex. feigao 6S)
small block, long stroke - 26-turn short can (ex. feigao 26S)
big block, short stroke - 6-turn long can (ex.feigao 6XL)
big block, long stroke - 26-turn long can (ex. feigao 26XL)

Maximum motor power can be achieved either at max RPM or at max torque, but its value is constant at the same motor can size. (ex. Feigao S size rated around 600W, L size 800W and XL 1200W.)
Good compromise (Torque vs. RPM) is in between and based on application and driver preference.

Fuel efficiency goes toward electrical efficiency
Performance follows as well.

And with extra cell's you do the same thing as you do with turbo or super chargers, bigger injectors, better filters ... :)

Artur

Oh, you can get the speed, but you get heat with it, as it is working the little motors quite hard.

Efficiency is the key, when it goes down heat goes up.
For a example with 80% (very good numbers, unrealistic ones but...) motor efficiency with 600W load you need to dissipate 600*.2=120W with 60% - 600*.4=240W. Now based on can size you can easy find out which one has more thermo-mass and bigger cooling area.

But with the rest, you correct, it is always possible to push it harder, especially for short periods.

Artur

P.S. Thank you for new ESC.

What about the segmented motors like..say a kontronik FUN600 or a Lehner 1930? would they tolerate heat? with a heavy alum. truck
BTW, the kontronik motors have only three segments while the lehners have much more seg. than the Kontroniks. would that make much of a difference in performance and effeciency and so forth?

You might want to try a lehner 2230 or 2240. They have a bigger rotor diameter than the 19xx series.

The 22 series is overkill. The 1940 or 1950 would be more than enough already. The Fun600 would probably do pretty well, too, though I think the 1940 series motor is my favorite for e-maxx trucks, larte and small(1930 for the lighter trucks).

I agree on the 1940, too. I've just sent kontronik a message regrding the fun600 and I'll see what they have to say about it.

but the 1940 have shaft 4mm?
Where I find pinions mod1 from 4mm? The 22xx is mounted on supports standard 540?
Thanks

Mike can probably make an adapter to fit standard 5mm pinions onto the Lehner 4mm shaft (he does use the 19 series motors).

The 2240 doesn't use standard 540 mounting. For one thing, its mounting screws are 4mm, instead of 3mm for 540s.

The 4mm bore mod1 pinions are on the gear /tranny parts page. I got mine from Mike.

Ooops I had not seen the pinions, therefore for the 22xx enough to use the screw from 4mm or changes also the distance between the holes?

The distance between the holes on a 540 motor is 25.4mm, the Lehner 22 series is 30mm. So, you pretty much need a new motor plate.

thanks metal , does not go me of having to drive crazy for a new support, remain whit standard 540 :)