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Sneeck 01.08.2006 11:11 AM

Question about c-50
 
I'm running a normal c-50 in my maxx, however i've just bought a special limited edition c-50, which look's awesome.

The only down side of the motor i'm buying, it's got a broken spool(pinion snapped off). Now my original plan was to use the spool of my current c-50. But since i've always been slightly consurnd about the weak 3,2 mm shaft, are there any other spool's that will fit the c-50 but with a 5mm shaft?

Also does anyone happen to know the kv rating of the c-50's?

Thank's.

coolhandcountry 01.08.2006 11:19 AM

The kv was around 3000. If you got the one for the maxx they have. May be able to put a feigao shaft or somethign in it.

RC-Monster Mike 01.08.2006 11:25 AM

Depends on the wind(Kv is determined by the windings, not the magnet). Pretty sure a Feigao or Hacker shaft would fit right in, but there are some issues to this theory. The best for that motor would be a Hacker rotor(make sure proper clearance from shaft to windings), with a 5mm shaft. I say use your current motor's shaft and keep the pinion closer to the motor can when you mount it to avoid the potential for a broken shaft(most times, the shaft is broken due to high stress when the pinion is mounted way out on the end of the shaft-leverage will win!).

Sneeck 01.08.2006 12:30 PM

In this case the previous owner had run his gmaxx with a tight slipper and hit a car tire at full throttle, while during the crash still giving throttle. Since the motor didn't had a chance to get the power away, the shaft broke.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...r/125_2517.jpg

If you(Mike or anyone else) want's I can take measurement of the motor/ spool when I get it?

RC-Monster Mike 01.08.2006 01:02 PM

Did the shaft break, or did the rotor dislocate from the shaft?

Sneeck 01.08.2006 01:09 PM

If you look closely it broke on the point where the shaft was getting thinner.

Superemaxx89 01.08.2006 10:29 PM

the flat area?

Sneeck 01.09.2006 01:51 AM

Yep.

Promod 01.10.2006 02:12 PM

I have two of the C50 maxx motors. Ran them as a dual set-up until the one motor broke the shaft. Than ran the other motor as a single. It lasted about three packs before that motors shaft broke.
The shaft on these motors must be WEAK as there were a good number of people who broke shafts on these motors. A 5mm shaft would be a wise choice.
Thank you,
Promod

Sneeck 01.10.2006 02:28 PM

Actually(and I have to knock on a piece of wood really hard this time) this motor seem's to be holding up well. From full speed to spinning the tire's in reverse on a normal road. I really thought i'd hear something snap, including my stock tranny, but it didn't. Guess I was lucky.

So a 5 mm shaft it is. Which will fit?(if any)

squeeforever 01.10.2006 05:02 PM

im assuming a feigao, nemesis, wanderer L would fit.

Re~Mix 01.10.2006 06:14 PM

Why not contact hacker usa about it? Not always the fastest I know but just don't tell them it's for an R/C Car (otherwise they scream bloody murder). I think they make 5mm shafts for the c50 cans, just not the maxx editions.

http://hackerbrushless.com/motors_c50.shtml

That should confirm that:) Hopefully those can's are the same dimension now

MetalMan 01.10.2006 09:42 PM

Doesn't the C50 Maxx use a 12s rotor? I've heard that it's just a 12s rotor in a larger can... Are my sources correct?

Sneeck 01.11.2006 01:49 AM

Thank's re-mix, when I get home from work this afternoon i'll measure up my c-50. Hope it will fit.

Serum 01.11.2006 03:15 AM

Heard/read that too Metalman.

Sneeck 01.11.2006 12:15 PM

Yay got my "special" c-50. What so special about this version you ask, have a look at this;

http://rcpics.rc-racingcars.com/dive...cker.sized.jpg

http://rcpics.rc-racingcars.com/dive...ker2.sized.jpg

This will look allot better than that ugly purple one. And for only 36 euro's shipped, i'm not complaining.

Going to measure it up in a few minute's. Hope I can use the c-50s spool in this puppy.

Sneeck 01.11.2006 12:46 PM

I don't got the right measurement's on the c50s(like spool dia, length etc). I've send hacker usa an email, saying I use it in an airplane lol. Hope they respond.

MetalMan 01.11.2006 09:56 PM

Say the shaft broke in a crash :lol:.

rchippie 01.11.2006 10:29 PM

Is or was the C50 avalible in different turns ?.

coolhandcountry 01.11.2006 10:35 PM

Yes they are hippie. They have different sizes to. Kind of like feigao motors.

rchippie 01.11.2006 10:43 PM

Thank's

Sneeck 01.12.2006 01:55 AM

Got a reply back(actually 5 minute's after I send the email). Can't use the spool of the c-50s, since the spool of the c-50 maxx is unique for this type of motor.

I've asked if it's possible to custom order the spool without the thin part milled down, hope they can/ will do this. No reply as of yet, will let you know how this work's out.

Sneeck 01.15.2006 11:14 AM

I just measured the c-50 rotor, here's a picture. (note that the flat area on the left broke off)

http://rcpics.rc-racingcars.com/dive...ackerrotor.jpg

If anyone can measure up a fiegao rotor(or any other rotor with 5 mm shaft), please share the measurement's with me.

No reply from hacker as of yet.

coolhandcountry 01.15.2006 12:39 PM

A feigao long is about 30mm in the magnet area and 19 width wise. I can take more if you like like over all and stuff.

Sneeck 01.15.2006 03:01 PM

Hmm with a bit of luck that will fit, else mayb a smaller fiegao rotor. Dunno how a longer magnet would affect it's performace. The inside dia of the winding's is 19.50 mm.

coolhandcountry 01.15.2006 03:46 PM

It almost looks like a basic xl motor armature. I don't have one handy. I should have saved the one I burned up.

MetalMan 01.15.2006 03:59 PM

Back on the first page, I suggested that the C50 Maxx motor uses a S size rotor, and Serum said that he heard of that too. So, you could try a S rotor from a Feigao.

cabking 01.15.2006 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sneeck


No reply from hacker as of yet.

I found that too when I asked Hacker a similar question.

I've got a C50 with a rotor that looks just like yours, I had a stripped spur gear that caused it. Not a good day ;)

anyways keep us posted if you find what works.

Sneeck 01.19.2006 02:02 AM

Anybody has some more measurement's?

Sneeck 01.22.2006 03:32 PM

Anybody?

coolhandcountry 01.22.2006 07:40 PM

You trying to match up one with the size you need. I don't have nothing but big motors handy. I would help if I could. Sorry sneek. The motor seems to be close to a 540 can size just have to get the right length.


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