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_paralyzed_ 04.03.2009 08:02 PM

KB45 front endbell stripped, now what?
 
The screwed on front endbell of my kb45 is loose. When I ran it it just spun on the mount. (not the endbell, that was tight to the motor mount, the whole rest of the can and wires spun) The only thing that stopped it was those darn stiff tinned motor wires, which now looked like braided line.

So now what? The threads are toast, so I can't just loctite it and retighten it.

lincpimp 04.03.2009 08:06 PM

Jb weld and an overnight dry... You should have enough threads left to get it to start and hold while it dries.

Arct1k 04.03.2009 08:09 PM

Drill out and tap for M4 - Then use one of mikes end bell covers :) to get you 4 spangly new m3 holes

_paralyzed_ 04.03.2009 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 276003)
Jb weld and an overnight dry... You should have enough threads left to get it to start and hold while it dries.

Will that hold the weight? That's a lot of motor hanging out there.

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Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 276006)
Drill out and tap for M4 - Then use one of mikes end bell covers :) to get you 4 spangly new m3 holes

Not the screws in the endbell, the endbell in the can is stripped. So the threads of the endbell itself and the corresponding threads in the motor can are stripped. (Its a screwed on endbell)

a kb45 sized rcm heatsink/clamp would work

Arct1k 04.03.2009 08:26 PM

Time for an upgrade?

_paralyzed_ 04.03.2009 08:29 PM

but I've only used it once! only on 3s! frickin frick:diablo:

BL_RV0 04.03.2009 08:53 PM

Did the threads on the can or the endbell strip? Both?

lincpimp 04.03.2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 276009)
Will that hold the weight? That's a lot of motor hanging out there.


JB Weld is quite gangsta, if you get it clean, and use the original formula jb, not the quik, it will work well. I have fixed all kinds of stuff with jb, especially for high heat it is about the best stuff out there.

_paralyzed_ 04.03.2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 276071)
JB Weld is quite gangsta, if you get it clean, and use the original formula jb, not the quik, it will work well. I have fixed all kinds of stuff with jb, especially for high heat it is about the best stuff out there.

Got some in me toolbox(fishing tackle box) I will try it. If it comes loose again that bee-yatch is getting tig welded

brushlessboy16 04.03.2009 11:08 PM

2 part epoxy also works well :)

lincpimp 04.03.2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 276129)
2 part epoxy also works well :)

Make sure it is high heat... JB is one of the few easy to find high temp epoxies...

junkman 04.04.2009 02:08 AM

I had a kd 9xl That the can was stipped on, you could pretty easily keep turning the endbell, jb weld did the trick on it

_paralyzed_ 04.04.2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by junkman (Post 276201)
I had a kd 9xl That the can was stipped on, you could pretty easily keep turning the endbell, jb weld did the trick on it

That makes me feel better. Is JB Weld the new duct tape?:neutral:

lincpimp 04.04.2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 276278)
That makes me feel better. Is JB Weld the new duct tape?:neutral:

JB is the permanent version of duct tape...

brushlessboy16 04.04.2009 12:26 PM

see harold, your jb weld could be done setting by now ;)

its me 04.04.2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 276285)
JB is the permanent version of duct tape...

I can a test to that. At my old job we fixed a cracked block on a M5 with it, just to get the car mobile so the customer could use his car. When the new engine came in we were surprised that the JB was still holding with no leaks.

_paralyzed_ 04.04.2009 11:41 PM

well, the jb is curing as I type this. If it holds the weight of that big kb after being propelled on 6s and cartwheeling I am going to buy stock in the jb weld company. (Justice Brothers, they make swell chemicals)

scarletboa 04.05.2009 12:26 AM

i think there needs to be a heatsink/clamp for the KB motors. the feigao sized ones are great at keeping the feigaos from falling apart. the better cooling is just a bonus. if there was one for the KB45-xl motors, i'd buy 1.

squeeforever 04.05.2009 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scarletboa (Post 276503)
i think there needs to be a heatsink/clamp for the KB motors. the feigao sized ones are great at keeping the feigaos from falling apart. the better cooling is just a bonus. if there was one for the KB45-xl motors, i'd buy 1.

Me too, but Mike said that there was no plans for one any time soon. I'm sure he would do a custom order, but it wouldn't be cheap.

BrianG 04.05.2009 12:57 AM

Yeah, I can imagine a custom one-off clamp for a different diameter motor would be prohibitively expensive. $60 for the motor, $200 for the heatsink - and you still don't have a Neu despite paying the price of one.

squeeforever 04.05.2009 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 276508)
Yeah, I can imagine a custom one-off clamp for a different diameter motor would be prohibitively expensive. $60 for the motor, $200 for the heatsink - and you still don't have a Neu despite paying the price of one.

I wouldn't think it would be that expensive, but more expensive than a Medusa and one of Mikes clamps for them.

_paralyzed_ 04.05.2009 01:38 AM

hopefully it will hold. If not, I'll jerry rig a clamp from front to back with some all-thread and, oh, I don't know, chewing gum?

scarletboa 04.06.2009 04:11 PM

maybe someone can ask make if he can start making and selling heatsink/clamps for the KB motors. the design could be the same as the feigao sized one but bigger.

squeeforever 04.07.2009 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scarletboa (Post 276947)
maybe someone can ask make if he can start making and selling heatsink/clamps for the KB motors. the design could be the same as the feigao sized one but bigger.

I did...Thats why I said:

Quote:

but Mike said that there was no plans for one any time soon

crazyjr 04.07.2009 11:52 AM

I can also attest to the power of JBweld. I had two motors with separated rotors, a hv4400 novak and a 1200xl basic lehner (different times but same problem). neither had split, so i JB welded them and they held as long as i had run them. I still run the 1200xl to this day without problems, on 5s lipo. I used the standard JB weld , not the quickweld and the standard will hold to 600* if heat

lincpimp 04.07.2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 277175)
I can also attest to the power of JBweld. I had two motors with separated rotors, a hv4400 novak and a 1200xl basic lehner (different times but same problem). neither had split, so i JB welded them and they held as long as i had run them. I still run the 1200xl to this day without problems, on 5s lipo. I used the standard JB weld , not the quickweld and the standard will hold to 600* if heat

The std jb is much better than the kwik.

You do need to let it cure for 24hrs or so, but it is near indestructible then...

crazyjr 04.07.2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 277185)
The std jb is much better than the kwik.

You do need to let it cure for 24hrs or so, but it is near indestructible then...

Thanks linc, I forgot about the 24hour waiting period

_paralyzed_ 04.07.2009 01:16 PM

Well, this will be an ultimate test for jb weld. The threads were toast, so after applying the jb weld instead of screwing the endbell back on, I just "popped" it baack in with a hammer blow. Thats a 2 pound motor hanging on with nothing but an adhesive! I plan on cartwheeling at about 60mph, so we'll see........


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