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Marvin 04.16.2009 09:17 AM

Hyper 9E
 
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Hi
Just thought I'd show off my new Hyper 9E (it was on ebay a few weeks ago). Not much conversion on my part, but I'm sure people want to see it up close.

I'm running:

-A Medusa 36-60-2000 motor (doesn't look like there's much room for anything longer, a 70 maybe...)
-CC MMM V3
-Flightpower Evo 25 4350mAh 4S
-Futaba BLS-451
-Spektrum DX3R + Receiver


There's some really neat ideas on this chassis, like the 'centre' diff being right at the back, the proper radio box underneath the ESC mount, the fact that it's a completely new chassis plate - not with any nitro holes. The new big-bores it comes with - they look like they're about 20mm diameter!

And here come the pics (if I do it right anyway...)

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Marvin 04.16.2009 09:20 AM

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And the rest...

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Notice that the centre diff is split horizontally for quick access - which is nice.

Arct1k 04.16.2009 09:26 AM

IIRC the shocks are 17mm but certainly beefy...

Nice car...

Marvin 04.16.2009 09:33 AM

Thanks

I think the outside diameter is 20mm - but inside you are definately right (17mm).

lincpimp 04.16.2009 09:58 AM

Lloks good, that is a nice buggy!

How flexible is the chassis? I guess with the two ribs in the chassis it does not flex much?!?!

mjderstine 04.16.2009 10:24 AM

looks great man. can you get us some closeups of that driveshaft!

Marvin 04.16.2009 10:24 AM

There's barely any flex at all - more along the lines of a 1/10 electric buggy - no flex, but let the suspension do the talking, or something :whistle:

Marvin 04.16.2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mjderstine (Post 279753)
looks great man. can you get us some closeups of that driveshaft!

Which ones? If it's the centre you're after, it's just one very long thick dogbone, and at the back there is a centre diff outdrive look-a-like coming out of the diff, and a U-shaped bracket as the centre diff outdrive to go over that.

Marvin 04.16.2009 10:45 AM

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Here's some pics of the rear driveshaft assembly

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And of the centre driveshaft

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delirium 04.16.2009 10:56 AM

Looks really nice, how long is the center driveshaft? RTR weight?

Marvin 04.16.2009 11:31 AM

Centre Driveshaft is about 20cm long, weight (without bodyshell) is 3360g

Electric Dave 04.16.2009 11:46 AM

Thanks for posting those pix! Explains a lot.

How does the weight balance (L/R & F/R) feel to you with Motor and Battery in there?

Marvin 04.16.2009 11:51 AM

It feels pretty well balanced front to back and side to side, better than my 8ight conversion anyway.

gixxer 04.16.2009 02:10 PM

Very nice. Figured someone from here would get it. Was kicking myself for not bidding at the end what I saw the price it went for. Should be about the same when it actually hits the states though. Nitrohouse has them listed for $449.

Anyways how long is the battery tray? I ordered a neu 4300 6s pack and want to make sure it will fit. Also what size is the spur? I assume it will have a 40t like the nitro? Hoping larger will fit cause I really would like to put in a slipper or losi smartdiff?

thanks

Marvin 04.16.2009 02:23 PM

Yeah, to be honest it should go to someone from the UK, because what I got it for was about Trade price + VAT (predicted), RRP would have been about $650 (equivalent). You get stuff so cheap in the US!

The battery tray is 175mm long (might stretch to 178mm - that is absolute maximum though!). Width is 46mm and you can have practically any height due to the bodyshell design.

Spur is a 40T, and you could fit probably up to a 44/46T in there - main problem though is that it uses very small diff cases (short ones), you'd be hard pressed to fit a bigger one in there - it also uses small outdrive bearings.

gixxer 04.16.2009 02:35 PM

thanks. My battery is 165mm and I just wanted to make sure it will fit. not sure about the diff. Really want to see if mikes slipperential will fit. If not I would like to try a losi smartdiff. I know they make down to a 43t for that.

Have fun with the buggy and let us know how it holds up. I will be waiting for mine.

badassrevo 04.16.2009 02:46 PM

Nice! Can you measure the distance from the face of the motor mount to the radio box?

Cain 04.16.2009 03:17 PM

is the ratio on this buggy like the RC8, 4.3? if not, what is it?

Marvin 04.16.2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by badassrevo (Post 279839)
Nice! Can you measure the distance from the face of the motor mount to the radio box?

80mm exactly - though there will be no room for motor wires.

There is a 43T crown gear and 11T pinion - so 3.909...

I don't think you would be able to use a smart diff either - it's not the spur gear size that's the problem, it's more that the diffs are so short - the entire centre diff (spur gear to diff case bottom) is only 18-19mm long!

gixxer 04.16.2009 03:54 PM

Thanks for the info.

SpEEdyBL 04.16.2009 06:27 PM

I haven't seen a body for this buggy. It must be pretty thin given no mudguards. Is there a body/any pics?

gixxer 04.16.2009 07:19 PM

here is a shot with a body. Taken from the ebay auction.


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crazyjr 04.16.2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin (Post 279854)
80mm exactly - though there will be no room for motor wires.

There is a 43T crown gear and 11T pinion - so 3.909...

I don't think you would be able to use a smart diff either - it's not the spur gear size that's the problem, it's more that the diffs are so short - the entire centre diff (spur gear to diff case bottom) is only 18-19mm long!

Nice specs, looks like they used a hyper 12 center diff, means there might be a plastic option for the >5 class cars

Marvin 04.17.2009 07:06 AM

The body is just the nitro one, disappointingly. I was expecting something far narrower - so I'm going to make side guards or an undertray out of lexan, otherwise my electrics won't stay clean for very long. Hopefully some aftermarket manufacturer will come up with a 'proper' electric one.

Unsullied_Spy 04.17.2009 07:36 AM

Very cool! That's the first Hyper 9 I've seen converted :yipi:

Cain 04.17.2009 09:07 AM

its not a conversion, its the production Hyper 9E that we will ge over here in the USA soon.

What is the smallest pinion you think will fit with the stock spur gear?

Kind of sucks they didn't do a better fitting body or at least include mudguard setup.

whitrzac 04.17.2009 09:14 AM

you will send this to me:lol:


looks nice though...

Marvin 04.17.2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by whitrzac (Post 280046)
you will send this to me:lol:

Unfortunately not :intello:


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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 280043)
What is the smallest pinion you think will fit with the stock spur gear?

I reckon an 11 or 12 T on the safe side. I'm using a 15T, which appears to be spot on with the speed calculator. It could easily go closer, so you could even maybe get a 10 or even a 9T on there.

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Originally Posted by gizzer
Hyper 9e, 6s, tekin rx8 1400kv (all coming soon)

So you like it then!

gixxer 04.17.2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin (Post 280087)

So you like it then!

Yes I like it. I want it. I ordered it. I am impatiently waiting for it. :mdr:

As a side note. Nitrohouse now updated there site. says expected 4/22 :rules:. Now my tekin system better be here when the buggy arrives. Lhs back ordered the buggy awhile ago so I should be able to get one on the first shipment.

oh and its gixxer, as in the suzuki(gsxr) motorcycle. the way you wrote it, I am not really sure. :rofl:

RBMike 04.17.2009 06:29 PM

gixxer is when you own some GSXR's, gizzer is for when your to old to own GSXR's. :yes:

Marvin 04.18.2009 02:10 PM

Ooops...

X and Z are next to each other on the keyboard! Yes, Yes, (runs away) :lol:

gixxer 04.18.2009 03:57 PM

well I just paid mine in full at the lhs. they say it usually takes 5 days to get from ofna. so I am hoping to have it for the end of the month. friday night racing starts on may 8th here so as long as I have the buggy and the tekin system buy then, I will be happy.

gixxer 04.23.2009 08:25 PM

mine will be shipping monday. sorry FG101C I was the one that out bid you. sadly I also paid for one at the lhs so it looks like I will be having 2. now I just need tower to ship the rx8 system.

Marvin 04.24.2009 03:41 PM

As some say, 2 is always better than one!

I will be testing mine at a race meeting this weekend if the weather holds out. I will post up here with some performance results, or something.

gixxer 04.24.2009 09:39 PM

look forward to hearing your thoughts on the buggy. right now I am not even worried about the extra buggy. just want to get this thing set up for the outdoor season. I haven't raced outside in awhile and I am really looking forward to it.

Now I just need the tekin system to show up.

Marvin 04.26.2009 12:48 PM

Update!
 
Hi

Tested it today, only electric at the track, though not for long I think!

Handling is beautiful! Loads of turn-in but the back end doesn't break loose too easily (except if you pile the power on when at full lock). Excellent at jumping too - it's perfectly balanced. Much better than the Losi 8 handling-wise that I ran previously. It reminds me much more of my XB808 nitro that I had. Run times of about 12 minutes, though I'm looking at using 5S ~4500 - 5000 mAh to hopefully up the run-times to 15 - 16 minutes.
Breakages
I broke the shock top (the plastic bit) where the shock top mounts to the tower, but I did this by landing upside down, fast on a board. It only cracked it too, I didn't notice until I had finished the final.
Position
I wouldn't say I'm the best driver, or anywhere near it, but I can get around the track alright. I qualified 3rd (best 2 rounds of 3) in the A-final, then in the final I kept my position well until at about 9 minutes (just before the battery change) a marshal didn't hear me flip over so dropped to 5th which is where I stayed for the rest of the 20 minutes more-or-less.

Certainly recommend this car - I love it!

gixxer 04.26.2009 08:42 PM

thanks for the review.

Cain 04.27.2009 11:38 AM

any new pics? would like to see how the nitro body they included is working out for you.

Marvin 04.28.2009 04:53 PM

Hi
The nitro body isn't as much of an issue as I suspected it might be. Though the track was bone dry and dusty. I think in the wet there is going to be a major problem, it does provide good cooling though!

I'll see if I can get some pictures up at some point.

FG101C 04.29.2009 12:11 AM

Is the basic shape of the chassis the same as the nitro version? If so you could the mudguards for the nitro version.


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