1/10 4x4
 

What 4x4 are out there? Truck or Buggy. Theres an extra SS5800 siting in the bottom of my tool box that I want to make use out of. I have a brushless rustler and stampede and have bullitproofed them to withstand the punishment my bashing sessions put them through. What 4x4s ,besides emaxx, are out there that have a good selection of hopups. I was thinking about a rising storm but could not find any hoppups that would strengthen the transmission for brushless power.

The only one that can use the ss5800 is the HPI RS4mt. Its based off the RS4 touring car and uses a belt drive. It is no longer produced, but you can still find them in good shape on Ebayand a few other places

Almost forgot, Welcome to the forums

Could always try a Nitro MT2 conversion, since the belt drive of the rs4mt can't withstand anything more than a novak 5800. That's it for off-road ones though, unless you want to go to 4wd buggies, which there are plenty of.

Thats why i suggested that, because he has a ss5800and the MT2 might be too much for the 5800. Actually i have seen the drivetrain run with a 6 turn brushed motor in a RS2 pro2 and survive with no problems, but the larger tires will limit the power capacityof the drivetrain

I had a RS4 MT that I ran on a SS5800, it was okay and fairly fast, but I never felt secure enough with it to full on bash it. I did put a few hop ups on it though, the woven graphite front chassis brace is mandatory if you're gonna drive it any bit hard.

Oh yeah, I turned mine into a buggy by running Super Nitro wheels with 2.2" buggy tires and a XXX-4 body, but sold it because I didn't feel like working out the bugs it had in the driveline (don't really like belts anyway).

I also had a MT, and I too turned it into a "RB" (racing buggy). Except mine was all graphite and I sold it because I thought the glitching was the car's fault, but after I opened up the ESC, I found out why it was so...

The MT2 however, may have a sturdier drivetrain, but it is not bulletproof. The 8s I had in it nuked my rear diff...twice.

Yeah, Im not too fond of the belt drive layout.

Where can I find Info on this conversion. The only search results I get are for engine conversions.

Here's a link to my conversion:
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...9206#post19206

Here's a movie too!
http://www.rcpics.net/view_single.php?medid=72035

Looks like everybodys using these monster motor/esc setups. Doesnt sound like my little ss5800 would do the conversion justice.

have you thought about a pede? i have heard that the rear tranny will bolt up to the front and allow for 4wd although it requires 2 motors and escs i think.

Your best bet for the ss5800 is the rs4-mt. It should hold up to the novak at least. Otherwise you could custom build a 1/10th truck, there seems to be a market for a durable 1/10th 4wd stadium, yet nobody makes one.

Re: 1/10 4x4
 

FYI - I have a Tamiya Rising Storm. The stock drivetrain will hold up well to an SS5800. The diffs are metal-geared. The only initial concern would be the main drive shaft, which is plastic. Definitely look at getting a replacement drive shaft if you go that route.
I ran my Rising Storm with my Lehner Basic XL4200 and MGM 8012 on 6 cells for a couple weeks and had zero problems.
I've actually been thinking about buying a used SS5800 system just for the Rising Storm.

If you want an off roader with a 4WD transmission, I would tell you to get the Kyosho Lazer ZX-5. Its the latest 4wd electric buggy made by Kyosho, using a shaft driven system very similar to the TC3's system. You only need a set of Titanium screws made by speedtechrc.com because the stock screws are piece of trash. Here's the buggy: http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...il.asp?id=5494

If you wait a bit longer, Tamiya will release their ultimate off road buggy ever. Its name is the TRF 416X, as I've heared. It will have a shaft drive train with double deck chassis and ofcourse the famous and beloved Tamiya quality derived from their 415 touring car and the TB Evolution series of touring cars.

If you are into custom work you could use a tc3 and convert it into a truck with a custom chassis

The kyosho buggy does not look very durable at all, possibly the least out of all in existance. The xxx-4 G+ is nice, and moderatly durable (if you're not an idiot with it like most). The bj4x4 would be my choice if I had the money, but still made for racing, not bashing.

You did not even try it to give it a verdict, pal.

FYI, there was an article in I think Xtreme RC magazine recently detailing a kit to turn the TC3 into a buggy. Here's a link to the kit:
http://www.rcproductdesigns.com/kit.htm

I put together a TC3 "O" V2 about a month ago and I love it :)

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It's a very good 4wd buggy for racing, but I don't think any competitive 4wd 1/10th electric buggy is particularly good for bashing.

That was the route I was planning to go but I wanted to keep the power brushless. Yes you do need 2 motors. I have 2 ss5800 systems and had originally planned to use them in a 4wd pede conversion, but turns out that you cant just switch the +/- leads or set the esc to run the motor in reverse.

Why dont you take a look at www.swami-rc.com for information on the 4wd rustler or stampede?

I saw that conversion a while ago and was really impressed, if I already had a TC3, I'd be all over it!

Diffs metal-geared, sounds good. Have you ever broken a shaft? Hows parts availability? Slim pickins for the df02 chassis at tower hobbies.

I haven't broken a center shaft - I actually haven't broken anything on the car yet. To be fair, however, I have only driven it about 5 hours total. The majority of entry-level Tamiya kits are VERY tough and durable. A note on the plastic center shaft: the buggy doesn't have a slipper, so I think the plastic center shaft may have been intentional to provide a small amount of flex. I'll still look at buying an aluminum shaft if I keep the Rising Storm as my bashing vehicle.
For replacement parts, you can get arms and chassis from tower. The best place to look for replacements is actually ebay. Do a search for "df02" and "df-02". You'll see a large amount of aluminum upgrades at very reasonable prices. When you see something you like, feel free to email mike@rc-monster.com to see if he can get the part for you. There are several ebay items from brands that aren't widely distributed, so you may end up having to buy through ebay for some things, but Mike will surely help you out on anthing he can get :)

I'll take a couple pictures of my Rising Storm later and post so you can see it.

Cool, thanks for all the info. I finally made the decision to stop by hobby people and pick one up for $109. But they were out of stock. Cant wait to see the pics.