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ilpufxit 04.29.2009 11:24 PM

Muggy chassis
 
I'm ready to buy a hardened chassis for my Muggy. InnovativeRC is out of stock. Anyone know where to get one?

Unsullied_Spy 04.30.2009 12:17 AM

The IRC chassis is the only other one I know of. Why not use a stock chassis?

drkdgglr 04.30.2009 01:55 AM

if you can wait just a bit, innovativerc will have a brushless chassis for the muggy.
I'm using a prototype right now and Robert is finalising the design.

bdebde 04.30.2009 03:13 PM

Ebay or losipartshouse

ilpufxit 04.30.2009 03:43 PM

Thanks guys, I'm tempted to wait for the BL chassis if it's coming soon.

drkdgglr 04.30.2009 03:49 PM

send him a mail through his shop. might speed things up a bit.
he should be making the 2nd prototype soon. the first was already very good. he was only going to add some lighting pockets. the chassis will work with rc-m's motor mount and battery tray.

riverat1540 04.30.2009 04:14 PM

id definatly be interested in one as well, about what cost for the brushless chassis?

drkdgglr 05.01.2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riverat1540 (Post 283524)
id definatly be interested in one as well, about what cost for the brushless chassis?

Don't know about pricing. Check his site to see the price for his nitro Muggy chassis. My guess is it won't be far off.

Here's a pic of the new chassis. Tell me what you think. THe chassis is 4mm thick and the spur gear hole is closed, so you'll be limited to a 46t spur. I like it this way because now the chassis has no holes for dirt to come in.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2342/echassis.jpg

riverat1540 05.01.2009 07:25 PM

looks good cant wait till it comes out

riverat1540 07.06.2009 11:06 PM

any further word on the availability of this chassis? that thing is sweet

drkdgglr 07.06.2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riverat1540 (Post 302256)
any further word on the availability of this chassis? that thing is sweet

Send him an email and ask about the chassis. I already have the chassis but haven't run it yet bc I'm waiting for a new steering servo....

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...&postcount=209
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...&postcount=206

riverat1540 07.06.2009 11:22 PM

What have you done to get the slop out of the steering? I thought i heard something about using traxxas parts or do you have the same problem?

drkdgglr 07.06.2009 11:26 PM

you can replace the stock steering link with a jato turnbuckle and replace the bushings with bearings.

riverat1540 07.06.2009 11:28 PM

thanks, i knew it was something like that:party:

drkdgglr 07.06.2009 11:30 PM

not the best pic, but you can see the turnbuckle
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7808/img2129fq6.jpg

riverat1540 07.06.2009 11:32 PM

cool i get the picture,

Unsullied_Spy 07.07.2009 07:04 AM

What does the steering link do? The way I see it the stock aluminum piece will take longer to wear out than the plastic on the Traxxas piece (the metal ball joint will wear out its plastic housing) and the stock one doesn't really have any slop if you tighten it properly and use a little blue loctite on it. The bearings really make a huge difference though, the bushings are fine at first but mine developed quite a bit of slop and I replaced them with some Avids.

The bearings are a 6x10x3 for anyone who's interested.

riverat1540 07.07.2009 09:51 AM

thanks was wondering that as well, maybe ill just do the bearings first and see how it is as it was tight at one time but sloppy now.

Unsullied_Spy 07.07.2009 10:08 AM

At one time I had around an inch of play in each wheel. I tightened up the screws holding the tie bar (the piece that he replaced with a turnbuckle) in as well as some other screws in the steering after adding some blue loctite and that straightened it up a lot. It used to be that I couldn't steer it at a standstill, steering would only take up slack in the steering and if I went somewhere it would kinda go where I wanted it to.

devious1 01.08.2012 08:21 PM

Sorry i am waking the dead, but by now i hope people have had some feedback between the HD Losi chassis for the muggy and the Innovative...

I have read through a few different post's and have not found much out on chassis's for the muggy...

So that brings me back to the question who feels which one is better besides innovative setup as a brushless chassis?

Or is it pretty much moot,
i would think innovative's 4mm would be better having the thicker chassis and all.

However i am not familiar with the HD Losi chassis and am hoping someone can shed some light on the subject,
as i may need a better chassis if i can lock down another factory chassis for cheap...

coolhandcountry 01.08.2012 09:13 PM

Electric chassis would be nice if laid out good.

devious1 01.08.2012 09:28 PM

Innovative chassis looks nice but i have never seen one in person to see how everything is laid out.
Does it have a spot for an rx box? or just have to throw one in there somewhere.

i am looking at innovative's as i like clean install's makes it look like you took your time on it at least...

RC-Monster Mike 01.09.2012 04:24 PM

Looks like the stock layout without the flywheel and spur gear holes in the pictures. Also, the 6082-T6 aluminum is a relatively new alloy that is similar to 6061. The site compares it as being stronger than 7075-0 - while this may be technically true, this is not a real comparison - 6086-T6 is NOT superior to 7075-T6 that is commonly used for high end chassis plates. "T6" refers to a heat treatment, while "0" is referencing aluminum in its annealed state - not really a noteworthy comparison(kind of misleading, actually).

brian015 01.09.2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 416169)
Looks like the stock layout without the flywheel and spur gear holes in the pictures. Also, the 6082-T6 aluminum is a relatively new alloy that is similar to 6061. The site compares it a being stronger than 7075-0 - while this may be technically true, this is not a real comparison - 6086-T6 is NOT superior to 7075-T6 that is commonly used for high end chassis plates. "T6" refers to a heat treatment, while "0" is referencing aluminum in its annealed state - not really a noteworthy comparison(kind of misleading, actually).

I noticed that, too (the comparison to 7075-O) - and wondered how the 6082-T6 compared to 6061-T6. So thanks for the input, Mike.

RC-Monster Mike 01.09.2012 04:41 PM

6082 is kind of like the European version of 6061. 6082 is not common here and 6061 is not commonly available in Europe - they are darn close to identical in all reality. Depending on the source, one may be slightly stronger than the other but in reality they are basically interchangeable.
2000(2024 specifically) series and 7000(7075 specifically) series are the strongest aluminum alloys. 6000 series alloys are considered medium strength and are by far the most commonly used, as they are less prone to cracking, more widely available, highly machinable, easily heat treatable, and less prone to corrosion. :)

devious1 01.09.2012 04:57 PM

Yes, thank you for clearing that up.

In my small minutes of searching of the www is it true the Losi HD is 7075?

If that is the case considering price point one would be better off grabbing that with some of the bracing ideas found on the forum here leaving you with a stronger chassis for cheaper...

Am i correct on this thinking?

Sorry about the many questions i will have, I am new to the truggy/flat pan chassis rc's

RC-Monster Mike 01.09.2012 05:46 PM

The IRC chassis is 4mm thick, so it is likely a little heavier than a 3mm chassis made from 7075 and likely very similar in overall strength due to the extra thickness. The IRC chassis doesn't have any extra cutouts, which is nice. I think either chassis option will be very similar in overall strength.

devious1 01.09.2012 07:34 PM

Thank you Monster Mike.
Decisions decisions.

bdebde 01.09.2012 10:53 PM

I have had both chassis (currently IRC); the IRC is stiffer at 4mm, while the losi 7075 chassis has some flex. Both are worthy replacements for the stock chassis.

devious1 01.09.2012 11:46 PM

Now it just depends on if i want to wait or not, on top of a 14 day wait till they restock them, Otherwise ill go for the Losi HD with Revo rods for bracing...

RC-Monster Mike 01.10.2012 11:56 AM

A little flex isn't necessarily a bad thing, either. Flex = traction as long as it doesn't flex enough to bind something. The 4mm chassis will likely last longer, as it is thicker and slightly softer(less prone to stress cracks). The extra weight of the thicker plate will lower the overall Cg slightly.

drkdgglr 01.11.2012 12:42 PM

Get the IRC E-Chassis. Fit & finish is perfect and the absence of nitro holes helps keeping the dirt out.

You can use a E-Revo or similar radio box and mount behind the front shock tower.

3905er 01.13.2012 09:20 AM

IRC chassis
 
They have 4 no check that 3 in stock as of now . I grabbed one myself :wink:

devious1 01.14.2012 01:12 PM

I have finally decided on the Innovative, but do to problems listed on my E-muggy 4092 thread they have came to an abrupt hault for the time being...:grrrrrr:


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