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Chris911 01.19.2006 12:46 PM

I want more speed!
 
Right now i have the HV-Maxx on 14 cells what top speed do you think i am getting with this setup? Spur 70 14 pinion and stock tires.

Would a Warrior 9920 Brushless and a Feigao brushless motor 540 9L or 10L be a good upgrade from the HV-Maxx motor? Also what top speed do you think i could get? That setup would be the best i can get?

captain harlock 01.19.2006 02:15 PM

Get the 9920 and the Wanderer 10L or the January offer ( 9920+Feigao 10L) with 16 cells ans go from 14t pinion to 16 teeth or higher. Keep an eye on the temp of the setup. You'll be in the mid-hi 40s for sure. Your e-maxx is stock, right?

Chris911 01.19.2006 03:18 PM

It's all stock but the HV motor plus i added steel ideler gears, MIP cvds front and rear and center and a G1 single speed trans is on the way.

Only thing left to upgrade is the diffs.

captain harlock 01.19.2006 03:39 PM

Okay. Put in the diffs and the setup I mentioned above. You'll see a major difference in terms of torque and speed.

squeeforever 01.19.2006 07:02 PM

might want to consider a xl motor. more torque, better runtimes, cooler temps, ect. as well as the ability to go from a lower cells count to a much higher count (ex. 7xl anywhere from 12-18).

captain harlock 01.19.2006 08:30 PM

But it would be a hassle with the stock chassis. Dont you think so , Squee?

squeeforever 01.19.2006 08:59 PM

that would be a hassle? nothing i can think of would be. unless you means the extra cells which wouldnt really be. 6 flat with the rest on top and g3xl straps.

Chris911 01.20.2006 12:42 AM

I would use 14 cells since i already have 4 packs of them and yes i do use the stock chassis will the motor mount same as the HV?

Dafni 01.20.2006 07:30 AM

For your 14 cells, I would suggest an XL motor as well. 7XL if speed is your goal, and 9XL if you're after runtime. 8XL for something in the middle.
All of them will easily beat the HV, and yes, they bolt right on, no hassle whatsoever.

Chris911 01.21.2006 11:42 AM

I don't know which motor to get it's between these 3. I guess any of them can be used with the Warrior 9920?

Feigao 540 10L Brushless motor
Feigao 540 9L Brushless motor
Feigao 540 8L Brushless motor

I'm not worried about run times, i want more power and speed than what the HV gives me, i only get run time of 11min on GP 3300 now.

captain harlock 01.21.2006 12:04 PM

10L with 14-16 cells. You have to make some ventalations for the esc and motor to keep things cool, though I'm sure the 10L and 9920 wont suffer like the HV.

squeeforever 01.21.2006 12:40 PM

the 8xl should perform better and have better runtimes than the 10l on 14 cells.

captain harlock 01.21.2006 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by squeeforever
the 8xl should perform better and have better runtimes than the 10l on 14 cells.
I 100% sure the 8xl would be better, but I think HE is lookinfg for the January offer. He wants something faster than the Novak HV, but do not inflict much damage to the transmission. Though I think he still needs to modify the diffs and tranny just a bit. He, as he mentioned, do not look for more run times. Speed is the goal as much as I've understood. Otherwise the 8xl is surely better. Bigger is better, but it's an overkill for a stock e-maxx.:)

Chris911 01.21.2006 02:38 PM

It's not all stock

I have so far

MIP's CVDs front, rear and center, UE steel ideler gears, G1 single speed trans on the way what's left to upgrade besides the diffs? And yes speed and power is the goal and i'm sure i will use more than 14 cells later on since i have the battery starps.

squeeforever 01.21.2006 02:45 PM

then i would go with the xl. not to mention i think the january deal is over.

Chris911 01.21.2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by squeeforever
then i would go with the xl. not to mention i think the january deal is over.
yeah i don't see it on the front page anymore.

boss 302 01.21.2006 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by squeeforever
then i would go with the xl. not to mention i think the january deal is over.
the deal ended on the 15th

captain harlock 01.21.2006 09:08 PM

Well, a XL is going to be much better indeed. Go for flm hybrids and a single speed conversion from G-MAXX. The s.speed conv. would help you get some more speed, too.

Chris911 01.22.2006 01:28 AM

What XL are you guys talking about there is more than one and why is a XL going to be better than a Feigao 540 10L? I'm only guessing that the 10L is the best Feigao? I don't know what numbers to look at to see what motor has the most speed or power?

Can you explain how you know?

The Warrior 9920 will work with almost any motor?

btw do you guys think that the Maximizers would hold up?

boss 302 01.22.2006 01:37 AM

if you want long runtime use a 9xl
for more speed use a 7xl
and for somewhere inbetween use an 8xl
the warrior 9920 will work with any of those motors the 9920 can handle up to 20 cells and 99 amps continuous also when using more than 12 cells you will need a ubec or reciever pack and instead of using a fiego motor get a BK because they have better bearings

captain harlock 01.22.2006 06:33 AM

There are three sizes of these brushless motors:
S= short can and rotor= standard size motor. No good for big trucks.
L= long can and rotor= 10mm longer than the S size= more torque and run time= good for stock e-maxx
XL= Xtra long can and rotor= 10mm longer than the L size= tons of torque and a very good amount of run time, too.

The 9920 should work with most of them, but not all of them.

As Boss302 said, the Wanderers have better bearings than the Feigaos.

Chris911 01.22.2006 09:54 AM

What is a ubec or reciever pack?

RC-Monster Mike 01.22.2006 11:25 AM

UBEC is an external "battery elimination circuit". It takes power from your main batteries and regulkates it to a constant 6 volts to power your servos. The controllers have a built in BEC, but it is less efficient, provides less voltage to the servo, and is only rated for 12 cells.

boss 302 01.22.2006 03:07 PM

also it would protect the controller if the ubec goes out it would be a $35 dollar fix rather than buying a whole new controller if the internal bec went out

Chris911 01.22.2006 05:07 PM

do you guys think that the Maximizers would hold up?

squeeforever 01.22.2006 05:20 PM

there 7075 aluminum. they should hold up easily.

Chris911 01.22.2006 11:15 PM

so if i get a differant esc like the warrior and use any amout of cells i have to use a UBEC?

boss 302 01.22.2006 11:17 PM

you would have to use a ubec on anything over 12 cells

Chris911 01.23.2006 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boss 302
you would have to use a ubec on anything over 12 cells
I'm using 14 cells now but i assume you mean with the warrior?

Is the Maximizer worth getting or should i just get UE's diffs? If i get the Maximizer whats a good diff case to put them in? Whats the option of them for robinson gear mean?

I would also like to replace the stock Steering Block i guess this will do? but where do i find the rear ones?

Thanks!

boss 302 01.23.2006 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris911
I'm using 14 cells now but i assume you mean with the warrior?


correct

Chris911 01.23.2006 11:56 AM

Will the Integy Super-Duty Type II Steering Block work with the Gorilla Maxx G3 Race Suspension? Also where is the Integy block for the rear??

squeeforever 01.23.2006 10:42 PM

the front and rear knuckles are the same.

makana59 01.23.2006 11:16 PM

just wondering why the majority of the people is recommending the 8xl. I just baught a 9L and am thinking I should have got a 8xl. Is it a lot better then the 9L. new to the BL world thats why.

boss 302 01.23.2006 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makana59
just wondering why the majority of the people is recommending the 8xl. I just baught a 9L and am thinking I should have got a 8xl. Is it a lot better then the 9L. new to the BL world thats why.

the xl motors have more torque than the L motors but i would say a 9L is still a good choice

Chris911 01.24.2006 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
the front and rear knuckles are the same.


So this will fit the front and rear?
http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...eringmx&cat=17

It says steering so i just thought they where for the front only.

coolhandcountry 01.24.2006 09:41 AM

That is the ones. Well if you mount a servo on the back it would steer to. I have this knuckles myself. They are nice. You need to loctite the stock pillow ball caps or get the plastic or one with the oring on them. Just to let you know. The 9l is nice if you not running to heavy maxx. The 8xl just has more torque like stated.

boss 302 01.24.2006 07:23 PM

the torque an xl has allows for higher gear ratios so u can get more speed but the torque also makes it more critical to have a strong drivetrain

Chris911 01.25.2006 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boss 302
the torque an xl has allows for higher gear ratios so u can get more speed but the torque also makes it more critical to have a strong drivetrain

What would be a good Strong drivetrain?

boss 302 01.25.2006 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris911
What would be a good Strong drivetrain?

ue 8 spider diffs
ue 6mm cvds
hardned steel idler gears
that would be a good start you could also get the gmaxx single speed conversion and flm bulkless

Serum 01.28.2006 04:13 AM

Moved from g-maxx to brushless


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