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nitrostarter 05.14.2009 04:40 PM

Fastest Truggy record?
 
Is there any recorded speeds for a Truggy? Just curious.

I just got my CRT truggy in and I might throw 6s and a big pinion on to see what kind of speeds I can get. :whistle: Then she'll be tamed down for 5s and track running.

lutach 05.14.2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 287226)
Is there any recorded speeds for a Truggy? Just curious.

I just got my CRT truggy in and I might throw 6s and a big pinion on to see what kind of speeds I can get. :whistle: Then she'll be tamed down for 5s and track running.

Yep....And I'm still the unofficial holder. I should get started again lol.

nitrostarter 05.14.2009 08:29 PM

What kinds of speeds are we talking about?

lutach 05.14.2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 287268)
What kinds of speeds are we talking about?

I only went 59mph on 10S. Would've went much faster if my truggy stayed on the ground lol.

Metallover 05.14.2009 10:02 PM

My Vendetta ST went about that fast... Had a Neu 1107 in there with a 1/10th sidewinder esc. It was pretty quick.:mdr:

However, I never clocked it. It probably only went... like.... 50.:eyes:

I do have a video though!

lutach 05.14.2009 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 287279)
My Vendetta ST went about that fast... Had a Neu 1107 in there with a 1/10th sidewinder esc. It was pretty quick.:mdr:

However, I never clocked it. It probably only went... like.... 50.:eyes:

I do have a video though!

Micro. We are talking about the big boys here :lol:.

Finnster 05.14.2009 11:22 PM

I wasn't really trying too hard and I got my Hyper to 54mph, and my crt.5 broke 60.

Truggies should be able to do huge speeds considering they are so stable and well balanced. All I can say is if a rustler can do it, a trug should easily do it.

80+, go for it, lets see it.

nitrostarter 05.15.2009 01:14 AM

Will do. I'm converting the Jammin CRT now. With the gears I have on hand, speed calc says up to 116mph... Doubtful on this number but it should be all of 80+, just hope I dont burn up the MMM.

As soon as I get it back together, I'm going to give it a shot.

lincpimp 05.15.2009 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 287303)
Will do. I'm converting the Jammin CRT now. With the gears I have on hand, speed calc says up to 116mph... Doubtful on this number but it should be all of 80+, just hope I dont burn up the MMM.

As soon as I get it back together, I'm going to give it a shot.

I have a radar gun handy...

lutach 05.15.2009 06:28 AM

The most difficult thing will be finding the correct tire choice.

lincpimp 05.15.2009 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 287330)
The most difficult thing will be finding the correct tire choice.

After seeing Nitrostuffer drive I think tire choice will be the least of his problems...:lol:

brushlessboy16 05.15.2009 09:31 AM

I beleive JZEmaxx hit 80.

lutach 05.15.2009 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 287350)
I beleive JZEmaxx hit 80.

Yes he did and he has the unofficial record for a Monster Truck.

Arct1k 05.15.2009 09:52 AM

Lutach - looks like we need to hook up somewhere to break some records ;)

lutach 05.15.2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 287373)
Lutach - looks like we need to hook up somewhere to break some records ;)

I will have to see as I don't know if my daughter will go to Florida this summer. I will have to get back to it though to test the 10S 240A esc. I'm also trying to get a new battery for my TC3 as most of the lipos I've tried can't handle the 200A and 1.5T. One of my 2S 25C 5000mAh pack went down to 1.5V and the carbon fiber drive shaft seems to want to shatter lol.

Arct1k 05.15.2009 10:09 AM

Only issue is being able to gear up my revo faster... Truggies/gtp/stampede shouldn't be an issue...

I just don;t have a radar...

nitrostarter 05.15.2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 287348)
After seeing Nitrostuffer drive I think tire choice will be the least of his problems...:lol:

And you're much better?:lol:

brushlessboy16 05.15.2009 10:24 AM

I have the ability to gear my Matrix 20/52 on 6s zippy flight max... i dont know if I should or not.. No speed testing equipment


Wow.. Now that I check the speed calc- 14/52 on 6s gets me almost 80mph


Differential Ratio: 3.45
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 52
Pinion Tooth Count: 14
Total Voltage: 22.2
Motor KV: 2200
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.8
Tire Ballooning (inches): .5
Motor Current Draw: 50
Motor coil Ω: 0.006
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 3.71 : 1
Total Ratio: 12.81429 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 21.36 inches (542.62 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 48180 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 76.06 mph (122.18 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2170.27
KT constant: 0.61 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: 0.16 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 2.05 ft-lbs
Final Power: 1110 watts (1.5 HP)





OR theres the 16t pinion:

Differential Ratio: 3.45
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 52
Pinion Tooth Count: 16
Total Voltage: 22.2
Motor KV: 2200
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.8
Tire Ballooning (inches): .5
Motor Current Draw: 50
Motor coil Ω: 0.006
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 3.25 : 1
Total Ratio: 11.2125 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 21.36 inches (542.62 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 48180 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 86.93 mph (139.64 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2170.27
KT constant: 0.61 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: 0.16 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 1.79 ft-lbs
Final Power: 1110 watts (1.5 HP)



20t...
Differential Ratio: 3.45
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 52
Pinion Tooth Count: 20
Total Voltage: 22.2
Motor KV: 2200
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.8
Tire Ballooning (inches): .5
Motor Current Draw: 50
Motor coil Ω: 0.006
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.6 : 1
Total Ratio: 8.97 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 21.36 inches (542.62 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 48180 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 108.66 mph (174.55 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2170.27
KT constant: 0.61 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: 0.16 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 1.44 ft-lbs
Final Power: 1110 watts (1.5 HP



Now I have to go home and test this :)

Motor should hold up- esc should too.. batteries are TBD

nitrostarter 05.15.2009 10:30 AM

Have I just started the new speed flu pandemic?:lol:

Here's my numbers:
Differential Ratio: 3.3076923076923075
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 48
Pinion Tooth Count: 22
Total Voltage: 22.2
Motor KV: 2200
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.6
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0.1
Motor Current Draw: 70
Motor coil Ω: 0.006
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.18 : 1
Total Ratio: 7.21678 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 18.22 inches (462.82 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 47916 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 114.56 mph (184.03 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2158.38
KT constant: 0.61 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: 0.22 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 1.62 ft-lbs
Final Power: 1554 watts (2.1 HP)


I can still get a 25T pinion as well...

brushlessboy16 05.15.2009 10:34 AM

hmmm My freind has a hyper7 buggy with the 2650 in it.... 6s would make it AMazing.

Differential Ratio: 3.3076923076923075
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 46
Pinion Tooth Count: 20
Total Voltage: 22.2
Motor KV: 2750
Tire Diameter (inches): 4.6
Tire Ballooning (inches): .2
Motor Current Draw: 50
Motor coil Ω: 0.0035
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.3 : 1
Total Ratio: 7.60769 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 15.71 inches (398.98 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 60568.75 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 118.43 mph (190.23 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2728.32
KT constant: 0.49 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: 0.13 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 0.97 ft-lbs
Final Power: 1110 watts (1.5 HP)

nitrostarter 05.15.2009 10:46 AM

6s on a 2650 is really not recommended tho...

However, I could try that as well, 6s on my 2650 combo in my Jammin X1 buggy...

brushlessboy16 05.15.2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 287389)
6s on a 2650 is really not recommended tho...

However, I could try that as well, 6s on my 2650 combo in my Jammin X1 buggy...

This is true- but im sure it could handle it for a short time.

nitrostarter 05.15.2009 01:34 PM

I see in jzemaxx's signature 80.4mph...

Finnster 05.15.2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 287379)
Only issue is being able to gear up my revo faster... Truggies/gtp/stampede shouldn't be an issue...

I just don;t have a radar...

I have one... and a camera too :wink:

nitrostarter 05.15.2009 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 287420)
I have one... and a camera too :wink:

Camera's are a must... lol

jzemaxx 05.15.2009 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 287410)
I see in jzemaxx's signature 80.4mph...

Yep....80.4mph, actually its been faster, but not on camera. I did squeek out 86mph with no body on it. Also its under the MT class, but if you race a XTM MMT, you have to run it in truggy...go figure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERY9_...eature=channel

jzemaxx 05.15.2009 03:11 PM

We also set the stampede record.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b8_P...eature=channel

lutach 05.16.2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 287378)
I will have to see as I don't know if my daughter will go to Florida this summer. I will have to get back to it though to test the 10S 240A esc. I'm also trying to get a new battery for my TC3 as most of the lipos I've tried can't handle the 200A and 1.5T. One of my 2S 25C 5000mAh pack went down to 1.5V and the carbon fiber drive shaft seems to want to shatter lol.

Quoting myself here lol.I don't think there's a battery out there that can supply enough power for this set up. I think lipos has finally met it's match. Here's what I'm talking about with the 200A and 1.5T motor:
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...4015Tmotor.jpg

BL_RV0 05.16.2009 06:31 PM

Luciano- have you tried the SMC or TP 40C lipos out now?

lutach 05.16.2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 287639)
Luciano- have you tried the SMC or TP 40C lipos out now?

I might contact them, but all this over rated lipos might not handle it. The one cells I'm trying to get a hold of is being used by the military and it's capable of delivering over 700A cont. and 1000A burst.

BL_RV0 05.16.2009 06:42 PM

squeak...

:gasp:

lutach 05.16.2009 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 287643)
squeak...

:gasp:

I know :lol:.

brushlessboy16 05.16.2009 09:18 PM

Gasp Luciano!

just run two in parallel :lol:

lutach 05.16.2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 287665)
Gasp Luciano!

just run two in parallel :lol:

Tried that too a few days before and without a Rx pack the Rx cut off and the voltage was at 1V. It was also kind of heavy lol.

nitrostarter 05.18.2009 01:51 PM

I've run into a problem...

I'm using Mike's motor mount in my Jammin Truggy. I love it however, with the freakin ferris wheel of a spur gear(62T) I can only mesh a 18T pinion yielding not so favorable numbers for now.... only 73mph. I was going to try 22/88 on 6s first which should have yielded about 85mph.

Differential Ratio: 3.3076923076923075
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 62
Pinion Tooth Count: 18
Total Voltage: 22.2
Motor KV: 2200
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.6
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0.1
Motor Current Draw: 75
Motor coil Ω: 0.006
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 3.44 : 1
Total Ratio: 11.39316 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 18.22 inches (462.82 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 47850 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 72.47 mph (116.41 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2155.41
KT constant: 0.61 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: 0.24 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 2.74 ft-lbs
Final Power: 1665 watts (2.2 HP)


However, I do have an extra center diff from my Jammin buggy(48T). So I will probably swap that in place and run 18/48 20/48 and then 22/48 on some speed attempts...

Lucariel 05.18.2009 04:06 PM

My eaglethree has mesured 63559 turn/minute in my st-rr with HPI Phaltline 0.44 meters of circumference gear 12/46

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20899

is equivalent a 101.8 KM/h

sorry for my bad english

nitrostarter 05.18.2009 10:20 PM

Just made a couple quick passes with the Jammin, geared 18/48 with 13/43 diffs on 5s. This thing is insane and a torque monster. I don't know how to keep the front end down and the front tires from ballooning insanely! Unfortunatly I lost the damn pinion gear, so I'll be forced to run either the 20T or 22T next. Honestly I'm kinda scared to.

Thinking about putting some thicker diff fluid, or locking silicone in the CD. Thinking this will increase wheelies but kill some of the unloading. I can dial out the wheelies with punch control settings.

Just an animal....

What's_nitro? 05.18.2009 11:55 PM

That's crazy fast, man.... I like it! :yipi: It reminds me of my Rustler- Any increase beyond 30% throttle is like "auto tire-spin" mode, and it isn't just hitting the end of the punch control. Isn't excessive power fun?

nitrostarter 05.19.2009 12:09 AM

I can't keep the damn pinion on. Lost it twice more, luckily I found it both times. I made a couple passes on 5s at 22/48 and its insane. I'll make a couple more passes and throw the GPS on it. I doubt I get any video, no one to video for me.

nitrostarter 05.20.2009 12:31 PM

51.6mph was the best so far geared 22/48 on 5s. I can't make a good run without the damn pinion flying off. I've never had this problem before...

Any suggestions?


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