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TexasSP 05.27.2009 05:47 PM

Charge adapter for everything
 
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/c...1&showbig=6809

Just thought I would point this out. I may buy one just to have because you never know now do you.

kulangflow 05.27.2009 05:58 PM

That could come in handy. I'd like to see the junction under the boot.

While they do provide the bare leads, it's interesting that they didn't include PowerPoles, my connector of choice. I thought they were pretty popular.

TexasSP 05.27.2009 06:05 PM

Didn't even catch the PP deal, I switched from deans to TRX connectors a while back because I like them better. I had considered the PP's though.

kulangflow 05.27.2009 06:09 PM

I love the PP's because I never need Y-adapters to run different packs in series. :-)

Plus, for me, they're the easiest to solder and cheap to buy in bulk.

Andrew32 05.27.2009 06:12 PM

saw it at the lhs a few days ago...although the numbers are different...

13.95 vs 32.99:surprised::tongue:

and there are bare leads for your power poles:yes:

magman 05.27.2009 08:41 PM

I have seen these before as well...a friend has one and he loves it

Unsullied_Spy 05.28.2009 12:03 AM

A friend of mine has a Racer's Edge charger that has that integrated into it. I wouldn't mind having something like that for my Hyperion though. Thanks for sharing!

lincpimp 05.28.2009 12:30 AM

Hey Brian, how good are the power poles? I have always wondered if they can keep up with the current demands like deans can?

Unsullied_Spy 05.28.2009 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 290632)
Hey Brian, how good are the power poles? I have always wondered if they can keep up with the current demands like deans can?

Those PPs are comparable to Deans, but they make PPs MUCH larger. I've seen them over 100 amps and I'm sure you can get bigger. The military uses those on aircraft, tanks, etc. so they can't be too bad (military stuff is more cheap than good, but...)

TexasSP 05.28.2009 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 290641)
(military stuff is more cheap than good, but...)

I can't say I would back that in my experience. The products I have been a part of manufacturing in the past to mil-spec standards were some of the best we made hands down. Mil-spec has very tough requirements that far exceed what most end users require by a long shot.

Unsullied_Spy 05.28.2009 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 290643)
I can't say I would back that in my experience. The products I have been a part of manufacturing in the past to mil-spec standards were some of the best we made hands down. Mil-spec has very tough requirements that far exceed what most end users require by a long shot.

True, but the lowest bidder usually gets the contract :lol:

alangsam 05.28.2009 05:53 PM

i have two of these. they are great.
now we need balancer boards that have the top three banace connectors on one board
Hyperion
Align EX
Polyquest XH

Finnster 05.28.2009 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 290641)
Those PPs are comparable to Deans, but they make PPs MUCH larger. I've seen them over 100 amps and I'm sure you can get bigger. The military uses those on aircraft, tanks, etc. so they can't be too bad (military stuff is more cheap than good, but...)

We have a elec pallet jack @ work that has some powerpoles that are the size of a deck of cards each. They are rated for several hundred amps and work well enough. Don't know if you want those on your car tho:mdr:

_paralyzed_ 05.28.2009 06:37 PM

I have the multi- charge adapter and love it.

Big power poles are often found at the robot places.....

Andrew32 05.28.2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 290859)
I have the multi- charge adapter and love it.

Big power poles are often found at the robot places.....


yup, we use em on our robots!

The larger power poles are very nice, but i have found the smaller ones pop off way too easily. Well...enough that we no longer use them in competitive settings.

BrianG 05.28.2009 10:54 PM

I tried some big PowerPoles on my XT8, but found them a bit clunky to use. They definitely have more grip, but just didn't like them. They do have an adequate 175A and 600v rating, so it's ready for pretty much any HV setup though:



http://scriptasylum.com/forumpics/large_connectors.jpg

rawfuls 05.28.2009 11:01 PM

Holy crap.
What the hell.

BrianG 05.29.2009 12:49 AM

You do realize that was a joke right?

rawfuls 05.29.2009 12:50 AM

Yeah...
Wait, did you crop it in? :neutral:

You should actually try crimping that... and using it :lol:
I'd like to see the crimp tool for that connector...

BrianG 05.29.2009 12:56 AM

No, I just took some dummy wires and routed them in a believable fashion. Because it was visible in the picture, the black wire into the MMM is the only one that has a connector, and even that isn't soldered, just heatshrunk together. The battery wires are just laying behind the pack, and the pack itself is simply upside-down to hide its wires. :smile:

lol, I would be soldering that connection to be sure. I never liked crimping.

kulangflow 05.29.2009 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 290632)
Hey Brian, how good are the power poles? I have always wondered if they can keep up with the current demands like deans can?

I love them. I've been using them for a few years now in all of my larger brushless vehicles. I've never seen one get hot even on 6s/2200kV monster applications.

Big fan I am. Here is where I buy them in bulk. I've always used 30A, but from now on I'll be using 45A, which has a bigger metal contact, but still fits in the same plastic housing.

rawfuls 05.29.2009 09:55 AM

Errrrrrr, isn't 30A too little?
Or is 30A/45A just right for the 6s/2200kV applications?

kulangflow 05.29.2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawfuls (Post 291058)
Errrrrrr, isn't 30A too little?
Or is 30A/45A just right for the 6s/2200kV applications?

Nope. As mentioned, I've been using them for years and have never even seen one get above ambient temp. I think the 30A rating is quite conservative.

I will be gradually switching to the 45A contacts once I run out of 30A though because their size makes it easier to install on larger gauge wire.

TexasSP 05.29.2009 11:21 AM

I thought the 30 amp rating was for higher voltages. My understanding was that if you lower the voltages from the rated spec that the amperage can go up as well.

_paralyzed_ 05.29.2009 11:22 AM

Wow! Check out the power supplies at the bottom of the page at that place kulangflow llinked to. 40amps, fused connections, powerpole output, 13.8v $85!

http://www.powerwerx.com/powerpole-power-splitters/

nitrostarter 05.29.2009 11:30 AM

Use bullets!

BrianG 05.29.2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawfuls (Post 290984)
...I'd like to see the crimp tool for that connector...

http://www.powerwerx.com/product.asp...038&CtgID=3575

BrianG 05.29.2009 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 291080)
Wow! Check out the power supplies at the bottom of the page at that place kulangflow llinked to. 40amps, fused connections, powerpole output, 13.8v $85!

http://www.powerwerx.com/powerpole-power-splitters/

You do realize those are splitters, not power supplies right? They just provide multiple outputs for a seperate power supply, but don't actually contain a power supply internally.

_paralyzed_ 05.29.2009 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 291085)
You do realize those are splitters, not power supplies right? They just provide multiple outputs for a seperate power supply, but don't actually contain a power supply internally.

damn confusing literature. It states 12v and 13.8v so I assumed it was for 12v products but actually output 13.8v. It's kind of a rip off now, but was a nice setup when I thought it came w/ a power supply. Oh well:oh:

rawfuls 05.29.2009 06:32 PM

$250 for a crimping tool..
Holy shizz

Hmm, if I can use 30A, I think I'm switching to Deans, and picking up a cheap $12 tool or something.

Why are you upgrading to 45A?

kulangflow 05.29.2009 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawfuls (Post 291205)
Why are you upgrading to 45A?

Their size makes it easier to install on larger gauge wire.

I'm not changing anything I've already got set-up. I just figured the next time I need to buy some for future projects, then I'd go with the larger ones for ease of use. It's annoying to cram 10-12 gauge wire into the 30A contacts.

Also, I don't crimp mine. I solder them. PP's are much easier to solder than Dean's and TRX in my experience.

rawfuls 05.29.2009 07:11 PM

Hmmm, soldering huh?

rawfuls 06.05.2009 10:21 AM

So would 30A casings with 45A metal contacts be okay, for a high-end setup?
Say a MMM 2200kV on 6S?

As an example..

I don't want these to melt out on me if I'm gonna be spending money on em! :D

kulangflow 06.05.2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawfuls (Post 293120)
So would 30A casings with 45A metal contacts be okay, for a high-end setup?
Say a MMM 2200kV on 6S?

As an example..

I don't want these to melt out on me if I'm gonna be spending money on em! :D

I've been using the smaller 30A metal contacts on a MMM/Neu 1515 1y/6s for a very long time now, and they don't even get above ambient temperature .. not even when geared to the moon for 70mph speed runs.

Believe me, these PP's are very much up to the task.

rawfuls 06.05.2009 06:31 PM

Sweet....
Looking forward to pickin em up.


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