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DwightSchrute 06.02.2009 07:54 AM

Turnigy 5000mAh 3S 25C Lipo Packs?
 
anyone have any experience with these?

https://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/...idProduct=9183


the flightmax line of zippy's rock, but i wonder if anyone has used these?

any help is appreciated.

phildogg 06.02.2009 09:05 AM

I'd like to know also,great deals here.
phil

Metallover 06.02.2009 12:49 PM

Those are brand new. No one has tried them yet. By the time someone has some running info they'll be out of stock....

If they're from hobbycity I'd expect zippy quality, which is great.

nitrostarter 06.02.2009 01:55 PM

I would expect the same quality.

To me, they look like repackaged Flightmax Lipo's with 10awg leads. Should be some good packs. I was thinking about picking up 2 of those soon.

scarletboa 06.02.2009 05:19 PM

if you guys didn't notice, the burst rate is different on these packs. the burst is only 30c instead of 35c like the zippys. i have the zippy 5000mah 3s 25c batteries and the hottest i've gotten them is 102F. they are incredible packs for only $50.

Metallover 06.02.2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarletboa (Post 292318)
if you guys didn't notice, the burst rate is different on these packs. the burst is only 30c instead of 35c like the zippys. i have the zippy 5000mah 3s 25c batteries and the hottest i've gotten them is 102F. they are incredible packs for only $50.

Which zippys are you talking about. The Flightmax's? There are a couple different zippys from which the cells could come from.

zeropointbug 06.02.2009 07:31 PM

So what kind of voltage drop are ppl getting then for the Zippy batteries? These Turnigy packs look the same to me too, GREAT deal, if they are good quality.

scarletboa 06.03.2009 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 292343)
Which zippys are you talking about. The Flightmax's? There are a couple different zippys from which the cells could come from.

i have the flightmax packs. they are supposedly the best zippy batteries. people on other forums prefer them over the more expensive zippy-r korean-made packs.

blueb8llz 06.03.2009 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarletboa (Post 292488)
i have the flightmax packs. they are supposedly the best zippy batteries. people on other forums prefer them over the more expensive zippy-r korean-made packs.

wow, i hope this is true haha, cus i just ordered some flightmax packs. yea even hobbycity themselves state that the zippy r is best, then the h, then the rhinos, then flighmax...i think thats what i read

BrianG 06.03.2009 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 292371)
So what kind of voltage drop are ppl getting then for the Zippy batteries? These Turnigy packs look the same to me too, GREAT deal, if they are good quality.


Wouldn't it be REALLY nice to have a standardized testing procedure done so that we could compare apples to apples? A set of tests that would cover aircraft, car, and boat use. I know this has been discussed to death, but it sure would help us out while exposing those "too good to be true" deals...

Jabe 06.03.2009 04:03 AM

I have one in order, should be shipped in few days, its for my drifter but i can compare it over zippy packs.
One thing im suspicious is dimensions, Turnigy pack says Pack Size: 146 x 34 x 25mm and Flightmax pack says Dimensions: 145x50x25mm. How there could be so much difference in width. I think its just typo.

nitrostarter 06.03.2009 09:20 AM

Difference in width= different cells completely...

zeropointbug 06.03.2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 292491)
Wouldn't it be REALLY nice to have a standardized testing procedure done so that we could compare apples to apples? A set of tests that would cover aircraft, car, and boat use. I know this has been discussed to death, but it sure would help us out while exposing those "too good to be true" deals...

Oooohh yes, I know! A sort of "EPA" rating type thing, like a driving cycle simulation for cars/trucks, with short high amp bursts, going up and down, like accelerate, cruise, brake, small current the turn around, repeat. Or just take cycle data from racing, and apply that to the testing procedure. Cuz we all know cars/trucks discharging is much different than planes/boats.

zeropointbug 06.03.2009 12:40 PM

And I think who ever sells lipo packs should test them themselves, with some sort of standard discharging equipment, you know? So they can actually stand behind their products, and know first hand what they are capable of.

Metallover 06.03.2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabe (Post 292518)
I have one in order, should be shipped in few days, its for my drifter but i can compare it over zippy packs.
One thing im suspicious is dimensions, Turnigy pack says Pack Size: 146 x 34 x 25mm and Flightmax pack says Dimensions: 145x50x25mm. How there could be so much difference in width. I think its just typo.

Hobbycity dimensions suck. Are you even looking at the same two packs? 34mm seems wayyyyyy too small. It should be at least 45 if it's a 5000mah pack.

lincpimp 06.03.2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 292534)
Difference in width= different cells completely...

Difference in width = difference between "oh" and "ah"...

whitrzac 06.03.2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 292586)
Difference in width = difference between "oh" and "ah"...


some of them are longer and thicker too:na:

lincpimp 06.03.2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitrzac (Post 292588)
some of them are longer and thicker too:na:

So I have heard, I obviously do not have the experience that you do...

Cartwheels 06.03.2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 292586)
Difference in width = difference between "oh" and "ah"...

and don't forget "dang"!!! It doesn't fit.

I think hobbycity use a 3 year old kid with a tape measure to get their measurements!

zeropointbug 06.03.2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 292594)
So I have heard, I obviously do not have the experience that you do...

LOL

you just gave that one to linc in a hand basket

lincpimp 06.03.2009 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 292732)
LOL

you just gave that one to linc in a hand basket

Yes he did! Apparently his college experimentation stage was quite a bit different than mine... I did live in a coed dorm so I guess I had it made...

zeropointbug 06.04.2009 12:37 AM

So i think i am going to give these Turnigy packs a try, $42 for 3s 5000mah... can't beat that man.

Has anyone found any other better deals?

The one thing that is really at the front of my thinkin kinda train is the cycle life on these, maybe they have made a chemistry that is powerful but last as good as pealed banana.

zeropointbug 06.04.2009 01:04 AM

Has someone bought some of these Turnigy packs yet? If so, maybe i'll wait till you get them and if you happen to have an eagletree, post some results? Although, the stock number is going down a good amount everyday, so i don't know.

scarletboa 06.04.2009 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 292760)
So i think i am going to give these Turnigy packs a try, $42 for 3s 5000mah... can't beat that man.

Has anyone found any other better deals?

The one thing that is really at the front of my thinkin kinda train is the cycle life on these, maybe they have made a chemistry that is powerful but last as good as pealed banana.

pealed banana, OUCH! i think an emergency room visit would be in order.:rofl:

RufRidn 06.04.2009 02:57 AM

I just ordered 2 should have them in by next week.

zeropointbug 06.04.2009 12:12 PM

hehehe


So maybe I should just bite the bullet then and get some, not a very big bullet either.

What balancer do you guys recommend getting?

suicideneil 06.04.2009 12:44 PM

Astroflight Blinky, more universal than a really universal thing, and cheap too.

nitrostarter 06.04.2009 01:17 PM

I personnally love that my Hyperion balances as it charges. I feel that is the best way to go, IMHO.

mistercrash 06.04.2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 292760)
So i think i am going to give these Turnigy packs a try. The one thing that is really at the front of my thinkin kinda train is the cycle life on these, maybe they have made a chemistry that is powerful but last as good as pealed banana.

:lol: Hobby King doesn't claim that their Turnigy lipos are the best. They don't claim that they are made of cells that will be as good as new after 500 cycles. They just say that the Turnigys are made of very good cells at the best price possible. It seems they have a pretty honest approach about this product they're selling.
A lot believe that you get what you pay for regarding lipos. In some cases that is very true. I don't have a lot of experience in this brushless hobby but what I have also noticed is that in some cases, you do pay a lot more for a little less. And in other cases you pay a lot less for a little more. Feel free to match lipo brands to either of these three categories :mdr: Anyway, I am waiting for 4 of their 2S1P 5000 mah Turnigys to come in.

zeropointbug 06.04.2009 04:08 PM

Oh for sure I want a unit that balances the packs as I charge, i forgot to mention that. I would charge two 3s packs at once using my BK Precision power supply (0-20volts/0-10amps, CC-CV), then have each pack on it's own charge through balancer.

The flightpower balancers are exactly what I would like, but I just want to know if there is anything cheaper...

thanks

Metallover 06.04.2009 04:11 PM

If you get an adapter you can hook the two packs up as one and use a normal balance charger. That's what I do... Then hit it with the blinky.

whitrzac 06.04.2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 292734)
Yes he did! Apparently his college experimentation stage was quite a bit different than mine... I did live in a coed dorm so I guess I had it made...


college??? I have yet to escape high school...:lol:

zeropointbug 06.04.2009 09:31 PM

I'd rather keep using my power supply for charging, it's much more flexible and can be controlled from a computer... it also has a nice screen with set volts/amps, and actual output volts/amps/watts. I like it.

And why do they not have balancers at hobbycity?? I don't get this?

zeropointbug 06.04.2009 09:55 PM

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...Bsmartbalancer

What about this one? Do I need adapters or anything?

Metallover 06.05.2009 12:03 AM

The chargers at hobbycity balance the packs as they charge - as most lipo chargers do. If you buy a new lipo charger, you'll have a built in balancer 99% of the time. I have a balancing charger and a blinky. When it comes off the charger, it is usually perfectly blanced, but I use the blinky to make sure and I use it after runs.

zeropointbug 06.05.2009 01:55 PM

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...alance/Charger

What about this one? That, and the 3 cell to 6 cell adapter, that should work right.

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...Chargers_(350W)

This is the power supply I am looking at as well, I thought I would go for a larger psu just to be future proof.

Jabe 06.16.2009 02:31 PM

Anyone else got these?
This 10awg wire is just over kill... You need right tools to solder that big wire, i used pyropen without any nozzle to heat up bullet connector and that way i was able to solder connectors, without damaging battery with heat.

zeropointbug 06.16.2009 04:18 PM

I use a 300watt soldering iron for stuff like that, 5 seconds warm up and it can melt through anything, and it's like you said, easier on things like batts, speed controller, etc. Get in and get out.

zeropointbug 06.16.2009 04:21 PM

I think everything should be coming with 10awg wire now IMO. Add that extra edge of voltage holding ability, especially on LV setups of 4s or less. But it just won't heat up and will also act as a heatsink to suck heat away from batts, ESC, or motor. Just my two pennies.


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