Good MA thread just vanished!!!!
 

I guess all that power the new MA pack was making made the thread vanish.

or they exploded... one of the two..

I think I did it....... :oh: ....... :rofl:

WTF is this crap? :neutral:

Well mike does sell MA packs. Too much bad publicity may prevent him from getting his hands on these new packs if he wanted them. And like I said it wasn't too hard to figure out porra. Would've thought a condemnation would come before a complete delete though.

Warned us, Arct1k did.

epic fail

Mike does sell his own brand of lipos and I'm sure Mike did test the heck out of them before offering them for sale. I hope MA doesn't worry too much as they still have a lot of people that uses their products.

I blame it on the cosmic ray.

In any case, if they put forth the numbers I guess we can all eat our words.

I knew I should've check back sooner, missed all the action:whistle:

With the $ they spend advertising/sponsoring you can bet they worry about their image. Otherwise they wouldn't have people on major forums with wide audiences, like RCCA. How many forums they monitor idk, but alot of major companies do looking for new ideas, markets, problems etc.

I wonder if these cells are similar, dimensions seem about right http://osnpower.en.alibaba.com/produ...H_battery.html

http://osnpower.en.alibaba.com/produ..._3_2V10AH.html

Again, only 3-5C discharge, and 1 20Ah cell is bigger than a 6s 5000 lipo pack. I'm pretty sure those are EV cells.

awww, come on...

was it my "selling a bag of dog ****" comment??

+1 what was all that about? did I contribute with my add razzing MA?

Geezze
 

Geeezzzee I'm sorry that I missed out on that thread. So MA took a beating from a group of R/C people who were not happy with the product they were selling? So why did the thread disapear? Are we not based on honesty here? I thought that the purpose of a forum was so that we could share our tested opinions about R/C products to discourage people from wasting money on products that just do not measure up? Or the opposite promoting good products so we know which way to go with our hard earned dollars $$$$?

My decision nothing to do with Mike - It disappeared because it just did the usual degeneration into MA and Jason sucks and other expletives...

I know you all like to vent (bit like a couple of maxamps packs I had) but you just get into shark feeding frenzy to I figured I'd play Mum and give you timeout...

Behave and you can have it back again... :)

ok, but FLAT LiFe batts!!!! I want to know were they got them!!!

Now that would be interesting but note they don't say A123 - they could be emoli cells

Maxamps has them. And I agree with Arct1k 100%; pretty much any MA thread degenerates quickly into how much they suck. As I said in another thread: Stick to quantifiable facts and observations, and let people draw their own conclusions. Continual immature bashing does nothing to help anyone and destroys your (and this site's) credibility.

Are you guys talking about the "maxxamps always coming out of balance thread" or the one about the flat LiFe packs?

ROFL, I just got a PM from the CEO of MaxAmps after I chewed them out on the quality of their Lipo's on that thread. :lol:

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...76#post2404976

What did the pm say?

Seems like pushing water up a wall. I try to put my 2 cents in on maxamps being a bad value for what you get. I have condensed my argument to basically state that maxamps products are overrated, and there are better choices for the money out there. Maxamps will always have business as long as the remain the industry leader in LIPO ADVERTISING.

Most if not almost all of the people with electric rc will never handle the 100s of lipo packs I have. I doubt that the owners of the various brands have had the varied experience of lipos that I have had. I will not lie when I say I have at least 5-8k worth of lipos at any one time. I have owned every one of the "reputable" brands. I still to enerland cells cause they work, plain and simple. No self discharging at different rates, no puffing during storage, no issues if I push them too hard, no crazy 4-8 hour balancing sessions, no worries. If you get a bad enerland cell, consider yourself lucky as it is a rare sighting.

Uh oh, headed to same fate..

Gets a bit much to constantly go on about MA suckage. I don't like them either, but going on other forums to flame Jason, then post links back to flamefest threads here isn't cool. Esp w. pics of gunshot victim packs in the same post.

This is Mike's business forum, and he's not at war w/ Maxamps, so constantly involving him in one isn't in the spirit or purpose of these forums.

By all means flame away somewhere else (RCZ, RCT, RCU, etc) but understand where you are at here and what the purpose is. Legitimate product discussion is fine, but should be backed up by observation, comparison or relevant discussion, not just a "MA sucks balls" bonfire every week. Makes Mike and the rest of the guys here seem a bit squirrel douchey, and that's not a way to attract customers or helpful members.

I think the squirrel ordeal started all this...

Those little assnuts deleted my post. This only further proves my point that this company is worthless....

I know what started the Maxamps debacle... Lets just let it go guys, we all know the ins and outs of maxamps lipos... Just be happy that you are "worldly" enough to know better!

I know I have been part of the problem, and I plan to have no more involvement with maxamps or info pertaining to them. I will only state monetary to performance comparisons.

Most of the problems are from the over rated stuff they sell. I've had only 2 MA packs and if I hadn't checked them, someone I love very much and I would probably have gotten hurt pretty bad. I never pushed the packs hard and when I stored them for a few weeks, they basically almost burst. I also have packs much older and not rated as high that I still use to this day. I would feel much safer if this industry started posting real numbers instead of hyping numbers up just to get a quick sell and this goes to lipos, esc and motors. I know a lot of companies that do post real numbers and people respect them way more then the over rated ones out there.

I agree with the sentiments of your post. But I do find what was going on over there amuzing (I love it when someone calls out an "industry leader") and would never have found it if not linked. But it should not be continued here. I hope the site can continue to attract type of memebers who's posts of "observation, comparison blah blah blah" :lol: helped me to ignore all the hype.

Was that really a gunshot victim or figure of speech?

Yeah man, I'm not suggesting we get all Chinese gov't and pretend and censor our opinions, but "Porra"'s postings were very good, relevant and backed by a good point and experience. That's the way it should be. People should be challenged. MA, CC, anybody, on the products they sell and their quality/value.

The other (now deleted post) was just a rant, link to a flamefest here, and a pic of a burned up MA pack w/ bullet holes in it. Not so helpful.

Sticking to the former rather than the later makes a more useful and respectable forum IMO.

Exactly

Agree again. I always like being the bigger person and not joining a flame, but its like a guilty pleasure I can't help but watch (and make nonpartial comments) sometimes. Something about their reaction to their products being bashed on what should have been a q+a of their new products debut is too funny though. But if they can forget to put battery bars on my clear shrinked nimh packs, I should get to enjoy a laugh at their expense. Ok I'm done, next.

With the way you run your mouth, I would delete your posts too. By the way... maxamps can't delete posts on the forums, so maybe you should start flaming the forum mods or better yet, look in the mirror.

Ok that's about as harsh as I've ever been on the forum here. :gasp:

I find it a little embarrassing how rabid and mob-like this forum can be... continues to be. It's like a fraternity in here... pretty cool if you conform and fall in line, but not much fun at all if you have a different opinion. Should it be that way? Not if you want the forum to prosper long term, IMO.

I agree. I could be a forum nazi and delete all the offending posts, but then would be accused of being a fan-boy. I'll let Mike handle that. Hopefully, the smarter crowd will look past some of the naysayers and read the posts with substance...

Most of the time this is a great forum, and there are good guys here with lots of good info, etc. And it's great that this isn't an over-moderated nazi forum like some others.

I hope MA have found the perfect cell. I will talk to Austin in regards to not only his specs, but I will also mention other companies. This is a matter of companies promoting good products at a reasonable spec so they don't get someone (Or a kid) who's just starting out into a dangerous situation. Sometimes it can get pretty scary when one sees smoke coming from the R/C in use. Now it might be just a freak failure which we all have no control over. What I'm trying to point out is that there are still a lot of people who are finally getting into electric and a lot who are still without the proper knowledge and rely on what the various brands out there are saying.

*COUGH* Traxxas *hack*

I could Not agree with you more GD. Seems like we have members here with strong feelings, and we have a few people who are just jumping on the bandwagon.

I would urge the members here that do not have personal experience with maxamps packs and the employees of maxamps not to "run your mouth". I am sure you have all read the various "complaints" that certain member have had with MA (me included). Real world experience with the product is a requirement to me if you want to be critical. No real need to keep bringing up the maxamps debacle, as we are all painfully aware of it. I like a good laugh as much as the next person, and the industry leader bit had me chuckling. Lets just leave MA to themselves and view their patrons as under-informed people. If they wanted the best lipo out there they would have made the effort to research. Since they did not I feel no pity or need to educate people like that.

As far as providing data to back up my claims, I look at my lipo experience as an accomplished street racer looks at engine building. You have to start somewhere, and maxamps lipos are like building a NA engine with hyperutectic pistons. Sure they both get the job done, but when you figure out how to fine tune the carb (rc) you will quickly find the limitations and end up with a costly mess.. I do not need graphs and charts to tell me which product has a superior design and build quality. Handling an enerland cell in one hand and a MA in the other is like holding gold and lead. I wish I could have everyone here do that just once, as it would end any argument quickly.

I have had their (MA) lipos apart, and there is no way the narrow paper thin tabs can handle the rated discharge specs. I have compared them to proven enerland products and found them lacking in all aspects. Even the shrink was thinner on the MA packs. Plus I have had more issues with self discharge on MA packs. I have also dealt with their staff and have had issues there too. My experience with MA has been more involved than most, I will agree. I still repair and reconfig their packs weekly and have seen the progression of the cell quality for a few years now. I am far from a lipo expert, but have more experience than I care to have with these sub-standard products (in comparison to the other cells available).

Bottom line is that MA is selling a product that is not superior to other high end lipos at a price that meets or exceeds the competition. Hard to fault that logic.

None of this should be taken as a rant, just information that I think is necessary to solidify my approach to enlightening the valued members of this forum. We have a great group here, lots of smart guys with plenty of brains. Lets use that for the benefit of this forum and stay out of MA way, I can see now that trying to talk sense with them is like pushing water up a wall. Can't really blame them, any sign of weakness on their part will be taken as failure.

:rofl: I forgot that forum is still online!!