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rchippie 01.26.2006 11:20 PM

Novak Ss5800 ?
 
I just got one of these systems from a fellow forum member (you know who you are:D ). I'm going to run this in my B4 buggy, i've heard they are pretty reliable. I wanted to know if anyone has used this system, if so how do you like it ?.

Re~Mix 01.26.2006 11:39 PM

I ran that system as my first brushless sytem. Not bad at all, (actually fast on 6 or 7 cells on unlimited). The weight of the motor caused me to switch to a Lehner Basic though. Just make sure you get air to the heatsinks of the controller.

nbcaznmaster 01.27.2006 07:38 AM

lol! me 2! pretty fast system. But nothing compaqred to my warrior/9L. Or USE to compare too.

Batfish 01.27.2006 09:29 AM

I've run the SS5800 with the SuperSport ESC in a Team Losi XXX-T MF, Associated TC4, and Associated FT T4, all in racing conditions. For racing at my local track (relatively small, technical track), I prefer the SS5800 over my MGM 8012 / Lehner basic xl4200 combo.

Gear the SS5800 properly by checking Novak's gearing addendum and you should never have a problem.

As a side note, I know I've put my SS ESC through some nasty treatment (un-intentionally, of course :) ) and it's still going well after almost 2 years. The most recent was about 3 months ago during a local trophy race. I use the Nomadio Sensor radio and had a temperature sensor on the heat sink of the SS ESC. The ESC thermalled on the straight after I passed the finish line (thankfully!) and I looked at my radio for the temp - it read 252F. Once it cooled down to 240F the ESC started right back up and I'm still using it today. It got me 2nd in the B-main for modified stadium truck last night :)

Papa 01.27.2006 10:06 AM

RcHippie- I think you will like this system.

Here is the gearing guide.http://www.teamnovak.com/download/in...pecgearing.pdf
Here are the instructions. All your programming information will be here.http://www.teamnovak.com/download/in...port_Instr.pdf
When you get it switch out the Tamiya connectors for Deans connectors.

squeeforever 01.27.2006 06:26 PM

i would personally go with the new gtb 4.5 setup but have head great things about the ss5800. what kind of speed would you expect fron a 5800 in a st? how about a 4.5?

Batfish 01.27.2006 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
i would personally go with the new gtb 4.5 setup but have head great things about the ss5800. what kind of speed would you expect fron a 5800 in a st? how about a 4.5?

Although I haven't checked top speed, it's far more than I can use at my track with the SS5800 in my T4 using the Novak recommended gearing (I think it's an 18t pinion with stock spur).
My guess would be high 20s to low 30s, which is more than enough for just about any track with a 2wd truck.
The difference from the SS ESC and the GTB ESC is smoothness. Although the SS is at least "okay", the GTB is so much smoother. It's harder to notice off-road, but much easier to notice in high-traction on-road. You could put either the 4300 or 5800 on the GTB controller, as well, for a less-powerful motor that has smoother response. I have the 5.5 and it's WAY overkill, but when has that ever stopped us? :)

coolhandcountry 01.27.2006 07:26 PM

I got an idea who it may be. Let me know what you think of that system. I was wondering about a 42oo on a pede. But not sure if that would be enough.

rchippie 01.27.2006 07:34 PM

COOLHAND you do know who it is :) . He is a very cool dude :) :) . I think it will be the perfect setup for my B4. This is my first 2wd buggy ,the longest straight on my LT is 130 ft. If i can find pics i'll post a link to trhem in this thread.

coolhandcountry 01.27.2006 07:44 PM

Cool. I like pics. 130 ft. That sounds short. I need to get me a 2wd rc. Need to get pede going. Let me know on the novak ss system. With the new gtb out should be able to get better deals now.

rchippie 01.27.2006 07:47 PM

I have a lehner with your name on it LOL.

rchippie 01.27.2006 08:09 PM

Her is some pics of my traCK. http://rpm-photography.com/Gallery/t...s.php?album=30

boss 302 01.27.2006 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
i would personally go with the new gtb 4.5 setup but have head great things about the ss5800. what kind of speed would you expect fron a 5800 in a st? how about a 4.5?

i have never heard of the 4.5 what are the stats like on it compared to the 5.5 i always thought that the 5.5 was overkill cant imagine how fast a 4.5 would be

squeeforever 01.27.2006 11:24 PM

http://teamnovak.com/products/brushl...4.5/index.html

boss 302 01.27.2006 11:29 PM

thanks squee i may have missed it but i didnt see a KV rating for it

rchippie 01.30.2006 09:02 PM

My Novak system showed up today. I shortend all the wires, motor wires by 2 inches & power wires by 3 inches & installed a deans plug. It's raing outside now so i cant run it. But i tired it in my apt i think i'm really going to like it the rear tires turned into pizza cutters when i pull the trigger LOL.

boss 302 01.30.2006 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rchippie
My Novak system showed up today. I shortend all the wires, motor wires by 2 inches & power wires by 3 inches & installed a deans plug. It's raing outside now so i cant run it. But i tired it in my apt i think i'm really going to like it the rear tires turned into pizza cutters when i pull the trigger LOL.

they really need to come out with non-balooning tires

Papa 01.30.2006 09:28 PM

I hope youy did not mess with the sensor wires. Power wires OK.

rchippie 01.30.2006 10:13 PM

:005: No chris i did'nt cut the sensor wires. I also cut out & enlarged one of the scoops on the left side of the body so my speed control gets a little more air.

Papa 01.30.2006 10:28 PM

Just checking:025:

rchippie 01.30.2006 10:44 PM

Thank's for caring :043: LOL.

boss 302 01.30.2006 10:44 PM

its never a good idea to mess with the sensor wires

mpetrich 01.30.2006 11:26 PM

Just to add a bit here; I have been running the SS5800 in a T4 for awhile now and it has been great. On a 7 cell pack, the car can keep up with pretty much any 1/8th buggy down the straights. I am slower in the corners and the bumps mostly because the truck is smaller but even the nitro guys ask what I am running. FYI, I "accidentally" rean the SS5800 with a 9 cell GP2200 pack (same size as a 7 cell GP3300 pack) and the speed is insane! I know the ESC is rated for only 7 cells (I wasn't thinking when when I put the 9 cell pack in!! :005: ) but it worked with no problem. I am NOT recommending to do it....but the speed was NUTS!! :004:
Matt

rchippie 01.30.2006 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpetrich
Just to add a bit here; I have been running the SS5800 in a T4 for awhile now and it has been great. On a 7 cell pack, the car can keep up with pretty much any 1/8th buggy down the straights. I am slower in the corners and the bumps mostly because the truck is smaller but even the nitro guys ask what I am running. FYI, I "accidentally" rean the SS5800 with a 9 cell GP2200 pack (same size as a 7 cell GP3300 pack) and the speed is insane! I know the ESC is rated for only 7 cells (I wasn't thinking when when I put the 9 cell pack in!! :005: ) but it worked with no problem. I am NOT recommending to do it....but the speed was NUTS!! :004:
Matt

In the B4 buggy you can only fit 6 cells. I think i'll be very satisfied with the performance. This is my first 2wd buggy so i dont need a missle :018: .

Nabors 01.31.2006 10:37 AM

It should be quite fast in a buggy my t4 with Novak’s suggested gearing went 33mph and had a lot of power on the track.


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