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BL_RV0 06.29.2009 01:20 PM

What Ive been working on lately
 
Electric to Gas pocketbike.

Frame cut up:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1246295040.jpg

Made a bottom plate for reinforcement:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1246295076.jpg

I also finished the motor mount and welded the sprocket onto the rear wheel, but I'll get those pics later today.

magman 06.29.2009 05:02 PM

Nice...what is your power plant? Did you do the welding your self? Mig or Tig

BL_RV0 06.29.2009 05:20 PM

Powerplant is a 25cc weedwacker engine. Yes I do all the welding. Mig welding.

magman 06.29.2009 06:38 PM

Excellent...I've been welding mig/ stick and an even smaller am't of tig for the past 9yrs. What are you using for a welder.....just curious:mdr:

johnrobholmes 06.29.2009 06:51 PM

Interested to see how it turns out. What did you start with, and are you modifying the wheelbase?

BL_RV0 06.29.2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magman (Post 300165)
Excellent...I've been welding mig/ stick and an even smaller am't of tig for the past 9yrs. What are you using for a welder.....just curious:mdr:

Not sure off hand, I'll tell ya in a couple hours when I go up there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 300171)
Interested to see how it turns out. What did you start with, and are you modifying the wheelbase?

I started with a 150w electric pocket bike= slow. WB will stay the same.

johnrobholmes 06.30.2009 12:39 AM

Looks like it has some righteous ground clearance. Should be fun!

lincpimp 06.30.2009 12:42 AM

Ian is a dork!!!! A electric to gas conversion on a predominantly electric forum!

J/K dude, looks like a fun project, and you actually posted some interesting pics and info, I am so proud of you. Maye you will not be a post whore forever...

johnrobholmes 06.30.2009 12:46 AM

I wouldn't want much more power on that bike anyway, unless you wanted to throw this on http://www.astroflight.com/index.php...roducts_id=123

BL_RV0 06.30.2009 11:20 AM

Hehe, thanks guys! I am a dork... I forgot to get pics of the motor mount! I will get the pics on saturday along with many other parts... I have to make 2 sprockets though- need a 16mm bore 7t and a 5/8" bore 7t. Smallest I have are 13 and 17t which won't give me the reduction I need.

nitrostarter 06.30.2009 11:28 AM

Hmm, I think a Brigg & stratton 3.5 or 5hp would fit just nicely in there and provide big power!

I have a mini-bike that has a 5hp crammed in the frame. It would push my big self to 38mph, and 45mph if I messed with the governor...

BL_RV0 06.30.2009 11:42 AM

I also have a 5.5hp minibike but it won't get my 100lb self past 25 or so. I'm thinking of electrifying it- if I decide to do that I'll just take the governour off and have some fun! :lol:

It's this one:

http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-92821211804676_2057_956635

lincpimp 06.30.2009 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 300337)
Hmm, I think a Brigg & stratton 3.5 or 5hp would fit just nicely in there and provide big power!

I have a mini-bike that has a 5hp crammed in the frame. It would push my big self to 38mph, and 45mph if I messed with the governor...

I can just see you beefcaking it on a mini bike... Thanks for the laugh...

nitrostarter 06.30.2009 11:46 AM

Really? Hows it geared? Torque-converter? What motor?

My 5hp briggs is a beast. I run it with just a clutch, and open headers exhaust(custom adaptor machine to snuggly fit the a 18" chrome vacuum cleaner handle for the tip.) Its all flat black with the chrome exhaust.

BL_RV0 06.30.2009 11:48 AM

Yes really. Geared gaily. I think it's just the motor though- it has like no torque. No torqueaverter. It's a jiangdong (lol) 5.5hp motor, basically a crappy honda copy. I have a 5hp briggs brand new sitting around, but I'm not going to put it in the minibike because the bike it too crappy to make it worth while.

nitrostarter 06.30.2009 12:42 PM

Would be fun tho. And then you wouldn't have to worry about gear reduction...

BL_RV0 06.30.2009 12:46 PM

No no- I have a minibike and a pocketbike (project) and a honda xr200r, but that's unrelated.

BL_RV0 07.06.2009 12:13 PM

Got a little more done...

Here's the engine:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1246896604.jpg

Motor mount almost done- needs to be welded on to the stiffener plate/chassis:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1246896603.jpg

And the rear sprocket mounted to the wheel, this turned out really badly because I had to do this weld quickly as to not warp the sprocket past the point of no return and the fact that the wheel and sprocket are lousy steel, AND I also couldn't remove the freewheel, not press fitted or threaded... so I had to weld it to itself so the motor can help slow the bike down at idol:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1246896602.jpg

BL_RV0 07.10.2009 10:19 PM

Today, I went to a industrial salvage yard and a lawnmower shop. Picked up a #35 9t 5/8" sprocket for use on the clutch, a #35 28t 5/8" sprocket to use as the primary on the jackshaft, a #35 20t 5/8" sprocket to use as the primary on the jackshaft if the bike isn't quick enough, a #40 9t 5/8" sprocket to use as the secondary on the jackshaft, which will run to a #40 40t sprocket mounted on the rear wheel, pictured above. I also bought some fuel line, #35 and #40 chain of the correct widths, and some 5/8" ID 1 3/8" OD flanged sealed bearings for the jackshaft. I have everything except the twist throttle to get this running now. Hopefully I can get it all together by sunday night, providing I can get a full day's work in on sunday. I will get pics as well.

BL_RV0 07.11.2009 12:09 AM

Anyone?

Snipin_Willy 07.11.2009 12:38 AM

Anyone what?

Sorry, I was too busy looking at that lousy weld job:rofl:

Get it running. I wanna see some sparks.

BL_RV0 07.11.2009 12:49 AM

The weld is better than the pic looks actually. And i had to weld the freewheel together because I couldn't remove it, and need the engine to help slow the bike down, as the drum brakes aren't worth the $5 I paid for the bike roller...

BL_RV0 07.13.2009 11:27 AM

More progress.

Goodies:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1247497718.jpg

Clutch and its sprocket:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1247497712.jpg

Welded some jackshaft bearing mounts and the stiffener plate:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1247497493.jpg

Fitting motor mount with welded on washers:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...47497716-1.jpg

Motor mount complete:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...47497718-1.jpg


I also did alot more, but my hands were so dirty I didn't want to take my phone out to get pics...

Metallover 07.13.2009 12:13 PM

Did you put the chain on a granite countertop? Was your mom happy?

BL_RV0 07.13.2009 12:42 PM

Not a countertop... Just a piece of marble my dad had lying around.

Modding_out 07.13.2009 08:19 PM

Remove or disable the Governor in that bike and you be hitting 40+ no joke.
I can't help you on the tork department, but the briggs is going to have less tork cause it's stock and a flat head. stock to stock (omitting Governor removal) ohv winns every time. but modified.....flat head rules.
Don't call it a piece off crap if you don't know what your talking about(I'm not disss'in you man, I'm just saying so no hard feelings) as far as mini bikes go( ive got several bikes, they keep spawning in by garage :whip:) there pretty nice.......... go to this web sight http://www.oldminibikes.com/ it will rock your world when it comes to mini bikes......
Ever hit 100 MPH with a bike that has a 4.5' wheel base?.........Thats what I thought,:party::drunk::diablo: rock on that mini man!

BTW thing was directed at your Baja mini bike.

J57ltr 07.13.2009 08:54 PM

Seems like it's geared for about 20mph. assumming 9K at the motor and a 10" tire. I came up with a 13.8:1 ratio without your maybe sprockets if I read it right.

Personally I would at least support the rear of the engine or put a gusset ot 2 in the motor mount. And I don't know about the clutch it's probably a little light for the application without a lot more ratio or a varaible trans, looks like a fun project.

Might look into something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=290219663298

Or this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250337233246

Both have a clutch bell built in.

Jeff

BL_RV0 07.14.2009 05:06 PM

I'm geared for about 23mph. Thanks for the suggestions guys, and yes the motor mount is gusseted.

J57ltr 07.14.2009 05:35 PM

I see now thought that was a shadow.

Have you been able to remove the clutch bell? I have a motor exactly like that but can't get the bell off. I removed the screw in the center and nothing I guess it's stuck. Tried prying on it and it's so thin I am afraid of damaging it.

Jeff

BL_RV0 07.14.2009 05:44 PM

I just took the screw out, it popped right off.

J57ltr 07.14.2009 09:54 PM

Wouldn't have any pics would you? I totally removed the screw and it's stuck like there is something else there maybe rust on a shaft?

Thanks

Jeff

BL_RV0 07.14.2009 11:04 PM

Possibly. I don't have any pics but I can say it's the weakest clutch I've ever seen.

BL_RV0 07.24.2009 01:50 PM

I figure I should update this thread. IT RUNS!!!!
Well, it's not finished, but it turns the rear wheel... :lol:

Here's the secondary jackshaft sprocket. Had to be heavily modded to mesh with the chain properly, keyed and mounted to the jackshaft:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1248128464.jpg

Jackshaft completed:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1248128465.jpg

Here she is:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1248128466.jpg

Ignore the fuel tank how it's mounted. Just did that so I could test the motor, and make sure I had no binding.

I also made some seat stiffeners, but I will get pics of those tomorrow or sunday. I hope you enjoy it.

J57ltr 07.24.2009 07:13 PM

That looks great! Cant wait to see it completed. Are you itching to ride it?

Jeff

BL_RV0 07.24.2009 10:29 PM

Thanks Jeff! Yeah, I am excited to ride it. I just need to order a throttle, and spend a few hours on it, and it'll be done!

BL_RV0 08.03.2009 02:55 PM

More progress!

Had to cover the motor in plastic and a wet towel to shield it from welding sparks/heat.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249324574.jpg

Welded on 1" squarestock for brace for centre frame brace. Bent/welded centre brace.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249324586.jpg

Bent/welded rear frame braces:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249324585.jpg

Made a bracket to conform to the fuel tank- welded it, and hoseclamped the gas tank to it, with rubber guards.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249324570.jpg

BL_RV0 08.06.2009 01:24 AM

Come on throttle!! We need you!

J57ltr 08.06.2009 01:57 AM

Well I am sure you could get an old bike cable brake assembly and use it for the time being. Be interesting getting used to stopping:lol:

Jeff

BL_RV0 08.06.2009 02:06 AM

That was my original plan... But I found this throttle for 13 bucks shipped and ordered it, not gonna break the bank eh? Had no idea this Dbag was gonna be so SLOW! He should know that the 12th is my absolute deadline! :eyes:

BL_RV0 08.11.2009 01:00 AM

It lives!
 
Holy shit, I got alot done in 3 hours...

Throttle I got off ebay:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966322.jpg

Needed a brake cable tension adjuster, found one on a old bike I had laying around.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966316.jpg

Needed a end for the brake cable so I made one out of some 1/4" brass tubing, and soldered it to the cable.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966321.jpg

Cable installed on the brake lever:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966315.jpg

Had to make a guide for the brake cable:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966317.jpg

Welded it on:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966390.jpg

Can you guess what this is?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966392.jpg

You might have guessed right:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966396.jpg

Brakes hooked up on the rear:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966391.jpg

Throttle return/connector I made:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1249966420.jpg


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