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emaxxnitro 06.30.2009 07:07 PM

anything new coming from the novak camp?
 
as stated?????

NovakTwo 06.30.2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by emaxxnitro (Post 300428)
as stated?????

Well, let's see. In the last couple of months, we have released our new platform, Ballistic Mod wind motors, 5 Havoc Spec/Sport systems, Goat Crawler 3S esc, SmartBoost for 1 cell racing, The Dig for Dual Crawlers, a buncha rotors, and soon the Ballistic Spec wind motors.

After these releases, we still have more cool stuff in the pipeline....

nitrostarter 06.30.2009 08:25 PM

Nice! We want some 1/8 scale good stuff tho!

emaxxnitro 06.30.2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 300442)
Nice! We want some 1/8 scale good stuff tho!

thats what i was getting at. stuff that can keep up with the mmm and rx8. i have seen hardy any changes in novaks 1/8th scale lineup the hv pro is just a hv maxx with a few extra goodies. lets see some nice 1/8th sensored systems:yes:
im in the market:whistle:

BrianG 06.30.2009 09:10 PM

Any 6s+ controllers in the works with motor kvs to match?

Also, this is more of a design question, but it seems the current HV series stuff is designed to run at high rpms. Is there a particular reason for that decision? Being sensored, I would think that lower rpms would be just fine, and there would be less strain on parts (bearings, rotor, etc) if it was spinning at the typical 35-40k rpm range. Not knocking your stuff or anything, just curious.

Bob Novak 07.01.2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by emaxxnitro (Post 300451)
thats what i was getting at. stuff that can keep up with the mmm and rx8. i have seen hardy any changes in novaks 1/8th scale lineup the hv pro is just a hv maxx with a few extra goodies. lets see some nice 1/8th sensored systems:yes:
im in the market:whistle:



Yes we have been working on a new platform for our 1/8 Buggy/Truggy market for about the last six months. We are in the early stages of testing and things are going well. We will be offering a brand new Speed control with some unique new features and at least two sizes of motor with various Kv ratings that will meet the Roar specs. I can't give a definite delivery date but it will be some time this year.
Bob N

E-Revonut 07.01.2009 06:24 PM

Very good to hear, i liked my uv maxx until it fried in an e-revo. A true 1/8 system from novak would be welcome, more competition, hopefully good prices.

emaxxnitro 07.01.2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Novak (Post 300638)
Yes we have been working on a new platform for our 1/8 Buggy/Truggy market for about the last six months. We are in the early stages of testing and things are going well. We will be offering a brand new Speed control with some unique new features and at least two sizes of motor with various Kv ratings that will meet the Roar specs. I can't give a definite delivery date but it will be some time this year.
Bob N

ok :party: i will wait. the mm with bec can hold me till then. go novak!:yes:

gixxer 07.01.2009 07:24 PM

another 8th scale option will be great.

Bob Novak 07.01.2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 300453)
Any 6s+ controllers in the works with motor kvs to match?

Also, this is more of a design question, but it seems the current HV series stuff is designed to run at high rpms. Is there a particular reason for that decision? Being sensored, I would think that lower rpms would be just fine, and there would be less strain on parts (bearings, rotor, etc) if it was spinning at the typical 35-40k rpm range. Not knocking your stuff or anything, just curious.

The reason the HV motor has such high Kv's is that it is a three slot motor and three slot motors are by their nature higher Kv motors. A 12 slot motor will have about 1/4 the Kv of a 3 slot motor. The bigger 1/8 motors out now are all 12 slot motors. They are more time consuming to wind and there for more expensive. The new motor that we are working on is also a 12 slot motor.

emaxxnitro 07.01.2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Novak (Post 300675)
The reason the HV motor has such high Kv's is that it is a three slot motor and three slot motors are by their nature higher Kv motors. A 12 slot motor will have about 1/4 the Kv of a 3 slot motor. The bigger 1/8 motors out now are all 12 slot motors. They are more time consuming to wind and there for more expensive. The new motor that we are working on is also a 12 slot motor.

good.

whitrzac 07.01.2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Novak (Post 300675)
The reason the HV motor has such high Kv's is that it is a three slot motor and three slot motors are by their nature higher Kv motors. A 12 slot motor will have about 1/4 the Kv of a 3 slot motor. The bigger 1/8 motors out now are all 12 slot motors. They are more time consuming to wind and there for more expensive. The new motor that we are working on is also a 12 slot motor.


INFO ASAP!!!!:gasp::surprised:

TexasSP 07.01.2009 11:06 PM

I am happy there is more competition, it drives the competitive spirit thus bringing us more and better products.....

It's a vicious cycle!

Unsullied_Spy 07.02.2009 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Novak (Post 300638)
Yes we have been working on a new platform for our 1/8 Buggy/Truggy market for about the last six months. We are in the early stages of testing and things are going well. We will be offering a brand new Speed control with some unique new features and at least two sizes of motor with various Kv ratings that will meet the Roar specs. I can't give a definite delivery date but it will be some time this year.
Bob N

Good news! Watching "The Big 3" compete for dominance in the 1/8th market is going to be good. :yipi: Tekin has a good lead on you guys but there are a lot of loyal Novak fans that will be very pleased to get their hands on a more powerful system. No offense but the current HV systems just aren't up to par with the options from Castle and Tekin, I have no doubt the new ones will put up a good fight.

nitrostarter 07.02.2009 10:29 AM

More competition usually means lower prices.... YAY!

gixxer 07.02.2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Novak (Post 300675)
The reason the HV motor has such high Kv's is that it is a three slot motor and three slot motors are by their nature higher Kv motors. A 12 slot motor will have about 1/4 the Kv of a 3 slot motor. The bigger 1/8 motors out now are all 12 slot motors. They are more time consuming to wind and there for more expensive. The new motor that we are working on is also a 12 slot motor.


now thats what we want to hear. :party:

JThiessen 07.02.2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Novak (Post 300638)
at least two sizes of motor with various Kv ratings that will meet the Roar specs. Bob N

This part kinda made me grimmace a little...anyone have thoughts on what being Roar spec might entail? IMHO, ROAR still has some catching up to do with the technology.

Kcaz25 07.02.2009 11:24 AM

I'll be watching!:eyes::yipi:

skellyo 07.02.2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 300814)
This part kinda made me grimmace a little...anyone have thoughts on what being Roar spec might entail? IMHO, ROAR still has some catching up to do with the technology.

Actually, the Castle 2200kv motor is the only 1/8th scale brushless motor that shows as being approved by ROAR.

http://roarracing.com/approvals/brushlessmotors.php

Bob Novak 07.02.2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 300775)
Good news! Watching "The Big 3" compete for dominance in the 1/8th market is going to be good. :yipi: Tekin has a good lead on you guys but there are a lot of loyal Novak fans that will be very pleased to get their hands on a more powerful system. No offense but the current HV systems just aren't up to par with the options from Castle and Tekin, I have no doubt the new ones will put up a good fight.

No offense taken. The HV was just a longer version of our 1/10 scale brushless system originally brought out to fill a brushless need for the E- Revo. It sold very well for this application.
We were very busy designing and manufacturing systems for the Crawler market and got a little behind the curve bringing out the bigger System for the 1/8 market but we plan on catching up in a hurry. The HV systems with the new 14mm rotor still work very well on small indoor tracks where you don't need the brute power the bigger motors have.
Bob

whitrzac 07.02.2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Novak (Post 300848)
No offense taken. The HV was just a longer version of our 1/10 scale brushless system originally brought out to fill a brushless need for the E- Revo. It sold very well for this application.
We were very busy designing and manufacturing systems for the Crawler market and got a little behind the curve bringing out the bigger System for the 1/8 market but we plan on catching up in a hurry. The HV systems with the new 14mm rotor still work very well on small indoor tracks where you don't need the brute power the bigger motors have.
Bob


and they still work well for us 1/10 speed freaks:oops:



I would like to see a 14mm rotor with a 1/8in shaft though...

Bob Novak 07.02.2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by whitrzac (Post 300872)
and they still work well for us 1/10 speed freaks:oops:



I would like to see a 14mm rotor with a 1/8in shaft though...

The 1/8" shaft is just too small for the torque that this rotor puts out plus we would sell very few which wouldn't cover the cost of a production run of 1/8 shafts.

TexasSP 07.02.2009 06:21 PM

What's going to happen as far as making the new unit programmable like the other two? This is a major factor in getting things set just right for a particular driving style and/or track. I also believe it has helped many nitro users convert because they are able to make the system act closer to what they are used to. Throttle curves, brake curves, brake power, start power. and timing adjustments are all critical elements.

Bob Novak 07.02.2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 300890)
What's going to happen as far as making the new unit programmable like the other two? This is a major factor in getting things set just right for a particular driving style and/or track. I also believe it has helped many nitro users convert because they are able to make the system act closer to what they are used to. Throttle curves, brake curves, brake power, start power. and timing adjustments are all critical elements.

Don't worry ours will have everything that everybody else has and then some. I just can't say any more and let the cat out of the bag so to speak. We have well over a year in software/hardware development in this new platform.
Bob

Kcaz25 07.02.2009 07:17 PM

Sounds awesome Bob glad to have you here! Are there current plans to discontinue the HVs? I have an old one(the first one) I'm looking to upgrade/trade-in...

Bob Novak 07.02.2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 300814)
This part kinda made me grimmace a little...anyone have thoughts on what being Roar spec might entail? IMHO, ROAR still has some catching up to do with the technology.

The Existing Roar rules simply try to standardize motor specs such as Max Length 77mm, max Stator dia 39mm, mounting holes at 1.00" (25.4mm) and a 5mm or 1/8"output shaft. These rules allow everybody to build both cars and motors that will fit each other. These rules were formulated with the input of most all the Brushless motor manufacturers that are involved with R/C cars.
Give credit were credit is due. I think Roar does a great job in making these kind of rules so that everybody isn't going in different directions.
Bob

TexasSP 07.03.2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Novak (Post 300901)
I just can't say any more and let the cat out of the bag so to speak.

NP, you answered my question and I would not expect anymore info.


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