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Topas 07.14.2009 05:08 PM

Fans on MMM V3 quit working
 
After 3 or 4 weeks using two MMM the fans quit working. Now I had to pay around 50$ to get replacement fans + cases from CC..... (+ shipping to germany !)

Did you have similar problems ?

SpEEdyBL 07.14.2009 05:24 PM

Offroad racing seems to put quite a toll on the fans. When my fan died, there were a couple of things i noticed. One was that the coils in the fan motor seemed to have been rubbed to the bare copper strands and that the actual fan connector broke off from the board. I then bought a couple of 3racing 30x30x6mm fans off ebay for about $6 each shipped from China to the US, but the fan blades were a little small. I was fortunate enough to be able to fit the old fan blade right on and solder fan wires directly to the board with out issues. The fan seems to spin quite a lot faster now that I have have done the upgrade, but I don't know if that is a good thing.

BrianG 07.14.2009 05:29 PM

Unfortunately, modding the case to easily accept replacement fans without opening it will void the warranty. But, if I had these problems, I would mod the case so the fan sits on top of the case and the wiring was somehow routed outside the case. Wouldn't solve the problem, but would make replacement a whole lot easier. Small 5v fans can be found at many electronic places (allelectronics.com, bgmicro.com, etc) at a cheap price.

But, some people have found that securing some type of grill/mesh on top of the case helps make the fan last longer. Some cheap screen door mesh would probably work well.

shaunjohnson 07.14.2009 05:37 PM

hence your avatar....no fans hehe
next time i buy an esc i might look for a pistix adapter and buy the phonix 100 or something along thoes lines.
look to have a larger heatsink area.
shaun

BrianG 07.14.2009 05:49 PM

The trouble with the airplane ESCs is:
- Not built to handle the burst currents that cars pull.
- No good motor brakes, so you need to use a mechanical solution.
- No reverse (unless you have some mechanical solution)

Matthew_Armeni 07.14.2009 06:25 PM

If you're running a reasonable setup you don't need the fan, we always pull ours out right away, one less thing to worry about. Highest temp I've ever seen is 150, so the fan would have just turned on anyway.

fastbaja5b 07.14.2009 08:16 PM

Really? The fan in my Savage Flux comes on all the time, yet I have never seen an ESC temp over 100f when I measure it.

Kcaz25 07.14.2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 304545)
Really? The fan in my Savage Flux comes on all the time, yet I have never seen an ESC temp over 100f when I measure it.

Direct the gun from the side to hit the sinks or hit one of the gold motor leads.

fastbaja5b 07.14.2009 10:56 PM

yeah that is what I have been doing, even put the DX3S temp sensor on one of the gold motor plugs and got the same result.

Kcaz25 07.14.2009 11:01 PM

WOW where do you live? What is ambient there I mean? What temp is the motor?

fastbaja5b 07.14.2009 11:12 PM

Temps range between 15c and 35c ambient, fan obviously comes on more in the hot weather

Last bash it was 15ish out fan came on a few times, motor peaked at 110f

Highest motor temp I have had was 145f on a 35c day. Fan was on quite a bit then too.

Kcaz25 07.14.2009 11:14 PM

Thats great!!

littlejohn 07.14.2009 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 304545)
Really? The fan in my Savage Flux comes on all the time, yet I have never seen an ESC temp over 100f when I measure it.

Hey Fastbaja5b... you mentioned this in another thread... I thought about this a little more, and I think you might not be temping the right spot. I used to get these low readings too. But after I cut the side grill of and replaced with some HD flyscreen, I find I get a higher reading thru the mesh...

fastbaja5b 07.15.2009 01:02 AM

Yeah but that sort of thing voids warranty so I don't mess with it, if/when the ESC fails I'll go from there.

himalaya 07.16.2009 01:53 AM

That's very normal for MMM. I've replaced two fans for my MMMs. There are better ways than to waste the money. Just find some 30x30x7mm 5V rated fans that can be easily find in electronic stores, two or three bucks for each. They work as well as if not better than the stock Castle delabeled fan.

shaunjohnson 07.16.2009 02:54 AM

how come my fan still works when the whole ESC got buried in clay at last race meet:rofl:
would castle allow the fan change mod (aftermarket fan) without voiding warranty?

fastbaja5b 07.16.2009 02:55 AM

Can you disconnect the standard fan and simply run a 5v fan from the receiver?

SpEEdyBL 07.16.2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himalaya (Post 304866)
That's very normal for MMM. I've replaced two fans for my MMMs. There are better ways than to waste the money. Just find some 30x30x7mm 5V rated fans that can be easily find in electronic stores, two or three bucks for each. They work as well as if not better than the stock Castle delabeled fan.

Really? The closest thing I could find on ebay was a 3racing 30x30x6 mm fan, and the size of the blades were inadaquate and broke off during the first run. I also tried Fry's Electronics and no fan was even close to the right size.

BrianG 07.16.2009 12:15 PM

Some places to try:

http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a...C.-Fans/1.html
http://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?Pag...S&Category=100
http://www.crazypc.com/products/fans/fansmain.htm

The first two links are more or less liquidation sites, so the selection changes almost daily.
The last link doesn't have 5v fans, nor any as small as 30mm, so may require modding.

himalaya 07.17.2009 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL (Post 304953)
Really? The closest thing I could find on ebay was a 3racing 30x30x6 mm fan, and the size of the blades were inadaquate and broke off during the first run. I also tried Fry's Electronics and no fan was even close to the right size.

Let my picture tell. This Sunon branded fan fits perfectly into my MMM. I got five of those with CNY100(RMB), or 15 dollars, from a local electronic store. It has been working great for 3 months before the MMM stopped response. (it was a V2)

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/atta...1&d=1247825990

Kcaz25 07.17.2009 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himalaya (Post 305292)
Let my picture tell. This Sunon branded fan fits perfectly into my MMM. I got five of those with CNY100(RMB), or 15 dollars, from a local electronic store. It has been working great for 3 months before the MMM stopped response. (it was a V2)

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/atta...1&d=1247825990

I'm interested but the picture doesn't work


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