difference between the 25c and 35c G3's
 

I am looking at the 25c 5000 G3's Mike has for my mbx-5T conversion. My question...since I don't race, is it really worth the 35c for just bashing.

I understand that the 35c will give me more punch...

Thats a good question actually...

I see there is a $50 price difference (5s 5500mah versions), but is it worth it?..

can't those 35c g3s be charged at a 5c rate ? not that my charger could pull that off

I believe so, but my charger cant manage 1c with a 5s pack... :lol:

Actually both can be charged at the same rate! The only reason I really ask is if I get 2 or more at once the price difference may allow me to get another pack

Either way...the packs are very well priced and great on performance from what I have read

I've been running on 20c TrueRc batteries with a MMM 2200kv for bashing, and they preform well. But when they fail (which they problably will in the near future :surprised: ) I'm getting some G3 35c packs :yes: .

how fast are you geared? id say for 40 mph or so you wouldnt notice a difference in punch but higher gearing you just might, 25c is still quite a bit of amps, shoot all i run is 20c and havnt noticed a difference in some of my 25c packs

18/68 on 6s for 43 mph.

my truggy will be geared for 40 so I would think that the 25c would be enough

I concur. Get the 25's. Spend the money saved on pony rides.

Yes...m u s t s a v e for pony rides wahoooooo!:lol:,

FWIW, I just got through using the 35c 5500mAh 3S packs in a race this weekend.

Sorry to say, but I'm a little disappointed. Used the pack in my X1-CRT, 11t pinion, 62t spur...and the punch I was expecting was not there. :neutral:

In the truggy Main, I switched back to my NeuEnergy 25c 5000mAh 3S, and the difference was noticeable, but not major. I think I may try out the new Enerland 43c packs...

don't know if this helps any.

Question....why only 3s in a truggy?

Answer:

Neu 1515/1.5D

She don't like 4S all that much. Well, maybe if I gear it down to a 9t pinion.

But then I'd have a torque monster that would be killing diffs as easy as I pass wind. :oh:

That's odd that you have better power with the Neu packs, what C rating were they?

After my race weekend, I noticed quite a bit better power down the straight with my 35C G3's compared to my other 25C Enerland packs. You can actually hear a difference as well, the motor sounds like it's spooling higher with the 35C's, screams.

If I recall, the Neu packs were a 25c constant and a 50c burst.

I don't get it. I mean, the G3 had a little more oomph, but nothing impressive. In fact, the TP 40c/80c pack had more of a difference...and that's just 5c difference. :neutral:

The major difference between 25C and 35C G3s may be the packs' temps when you drive the truck back to pit.

Have a detailed look into the G3 datasheet, compare CX/VX of similar S and capacity, only those that have significant Ri difference are worth the extra $$ to update to 35C VX.

The TP 40C and the G3 35's are pretty close in performance, looking at graphs from RC Groups user 'everydayflyer'. But in some setups, you will be able to tell a difference, notably your 3s setup.

I also found that I don't use as much throttle to cruise around the track with the G3's compared to the Enerland packs, it's like the nominal voltage is higher, because I would only be drawing maybe 10 amps in the technical parts of the track, and I am pretty sure my finger is not pulling the trigger as much.

hmm...that's odd. When I was running the G3 pack, it's like I had to use a little more throttle to keep a respectable speed around the track. :neutral:

Down the straight, it definitely seemed a little sluggish. Still faster than the 25c NeuEnergy pack, but not close enough to the TP 40c pack as it's 35c rating would suggest.

I don't know if I'll continue with the G3 packs. I mean, they're priced pretty competetively, but I'm just not that happy with the performance. I'll probably stick to the TP 40c packs for now. When the new 43c Enerland packs come out, I'll be gettin my mitts on those babies to try 'em out.

Come to think of it...I do need to place an order.

the crt is a tank! i just did the calculater and your only geared for 27 mph! thats gotta be lame lol , shoot i had my crt on 5s with the 1y and it geared 12/46t it was perfect

only 2700kv? Big G...the CRT may be a tank, but that 1.5D is a monster of a motor. :oh:

Using the TP 40c 3S on it is almost useless speed. The motor gets hot not from trying to power the truggy, but from all the wheel spin that's going on.

On 4S, that motor is absolutely ridiculous. The tires'll get almost as big as a paper plate from all the power. Run it more than three times and the foam inside the fronts is torn into three different sections. The duct tape I put on the inside of the tires ends up tearing.

That's not to mention all the damage it's done to the drive train. I've blown out an o-ring on the center diff, had to replace the center diff gears once already, rear diff gears are about to give up the ghost, blew the bearings on the front right wheel, bent the center universal drive shafts about 6 times already, bent the front three times and bent the CVD's at least twice.

I love the speed I have with this motor...but damnit if she isn't making me pay for my avarice.

Hmm, I find that strange that you are feeling disappointed over the G3's... everything I have read, what RCM Mike has mentioned about them, and my personal experience with them says otherwise. In fact, a guy at the track said when I swapped packs (@ roughly 50% DOD) from an enerland pack to the G3 pack, he thought I had a larger pack in the truck, like more cells, judging by the straight line power. I love these packs. I love em, I love em, I love em.

If they turn out to really deliver on their 4x cycle claim, then they are just super duper.

I guess it might just be me, then. :neutral: They perform a little better than the NeuEnergy 25/50c, but it doesn't seem like it's all that. I dunno...maybe I'm just spoiled with the smaller spur of the buggy and the TP 40c pack.

Then again, at 65c burst, the G3 is down 15c to the TP's 80c. Or, according to the rclipos website, 42.5 amps compared to the TP. The 5000mAh 3S pack is supposedly putting out 400amp bursts. The 5500mAh G3 3S pack is only putting out 357.5amps.

I'd say that both companies are pretty much rating their batteries accurately. The difference between the packs is noticeable...most especially the battery temps. The TP pack is barely breaking a sweat when I use it. :intello:

If you really like 'em and you think you have a use for the G3 3S packs, lemme know.