Slowing down a stock setup (titans in series??)
 

Hello everybody. What are some ways to slow down a stock setup?
I heard people run their titans in series. Anybody done that?
What ESC wires should I use, and do I do with the left-overs?
Will the ESC suffer from this? How will this affect runtime?

Thank you in advance
DAF

The EVX runs its motors in parallel on the circuit board. You could remove two of the motor wires. What I did on mine is take 12ga. wire and split the ends to go into both wire holes on the circuit board, since 12ga. is too large in diameter to fit into one 14ga. wire hole. (I hope this makes sense)
Then from the two 12ga. wires, you could have each one go to each motor, then put a wire between the motors to connect them in series.

Do you mean, in principle, connecting both red and both black wires and run the motors in series between the connected wires?

If I would not be such a 'puter noob, I could make a quick drawing :013:

Yeah, I knew the EVX powers the motors in parallel.

Just made a quick (scematic) drawing. Would this work?
Is this what you meant, basically?

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...xx/EuI3002.jpg

Thanks, Metalman.

I drew up a quick picture to show you what I mean. The positioning of the wires shows how they are connected in parallel on the circuit board.

Thank you, metalman.
But which of the 4 output wires should I use?
And what about the other 2?

How about joining them, like in my drawing?

Don't think it'll make much difference if you join them or not. As long as the spare wires are not left exposed you'll be ok. BTW running your motors in series will theoretically double run time. May I ask why you want a truck less powerful than stock? - stocks already pretty slow!

Why noy just solder the two red and two black wires together (red to red and black to black) and run your series connection from there. Run the red wire to the red post on one motor and the black to the blackpost on the other motor and run a jumper off the remaining posts

Same Here! Why Less Power?

Why daniel? Running in series will double the the windings in the motors. It they are 21 it would be like a 42 turn motor. I think. But any way sounds like a good crawler or something. Have to let us know how it turns out.

He lives in Switzerland, it snows there, maybe he's gonna mix snow and rc's again.

Why? Shifting of generations here :) Junior will inherit my stock E-Maxx, and half the speed will be just right for him to get used to. When he gets better, I can always re-parallel it.
He was driving around with an old Tamiya Lunchbox, but I feel he's ready for the Maxx next summer. He's 5 now, btw. And he seems to love the look of the 2 motors.

The EMaxx was my fun-basher vehicle. Have it snowproof in wintertime, with a stock chassis, and foolproof in summer, with an old GMaxx chassis. :) The Revoxx was my racer. But now, with a nice G2R in the works, I turned the first Revo into a mean basher!
Here are a few pics of my new basher, just for fun. And No, the titans in series will not end on it! The motor stays! LOL

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../Revoxx010.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../Revoxx012.jpg

Cheers
DAF

He knows his stuff then......:D :D :D

Dude, he's 5!

I meant it in a good way. ie, 2 motors are better than 1!

LOL, I see. Nevermind. :dft001:

He already asked me when he'll get a third wire on his motors :027:

peace
DAF

lol...

start 'em young. I have a niece who will probably be starting on a rustler soon

Wait, are you sure you're not American? Could have sworn that saying would only come from somebody State-side......:005:

It rubs off, I guess.
Can't do nothing about it :002:

Don't let the bad stuff rub off on you to. ;)

No no, come........join usssss........:027:

sounds like my neighbor

at least he is smart enough to realize the power of the 3rd wire! Does he handle the e-maxx well?

And the record holder of digging up old topics for today is mr. LST.. :p

just trying to learn from daf

Speaking of digging up old topics: there was a post that said that hooking up titans in series instead of parallel would double runtime. Wouldn't it quadruple it? Two Titans in parallel runs for X time. One Titan would run twice as long. Running titans in series adds their resistance, so multiply by 2 again. Just curious...

If so, you could paint the truck pink, give it a base drum and it can just keep going.. and going... and going...

Brian; yeah;

that it would..

It halves the resistance, so putting them in series would make it slower than using 1 motor, so it would quadruple the runtime..

that is good for a young driver

Dafni:

Hi,

First off I gotta say all of your trucks are beautiful. the machine work that goes in to them is something. your now basher E-Revo is something I could only dream of building now. and your G2R with the motor mount, slipperential is awesome.
now.... I think it's great your getting your son into racing/bashing when he's 5. great age to start him out.
I did the same with my son (well I stated him out earlier with a JRX-2 and a 5 cell pack running around our driveway) then to a small dirt track and so on. it was great until he turned 16 and found out he was good enough at video games the people would send him to tourny's to play.
thus ended our time in R/C. he will stop by a track where I'm at take my truck or buggy and set TQ by over a lap from before and leave. but he's not interested in racing any more. :frown:
so enjoy it while you can........and keep your son away from video games!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks

Thank you Tim for the wise words. I will keep that in mind.
And thank you for the comments on my RCs.
Lately the kids like crawlers, as do I. My son likes the fixing and building aspect of the hobby, just as much as the driving. And I myself got into airbrushing... I can see me quitting the building and machining for a while, and focusing on painting.
So interests shift constantly. Nice to hear your son turned into a very good driver... not so nice to hear about the video games, but I think you can not controll the interests of your kids ... especially after a certain age. If it's video games, and he goes pro, so be it. I myself dislike video games now, altough I have been a fan of them in my teen years myself.

Let's see what comes next.

I was trying to get a stretch of land to build a track (of found a club) last summer... we had no luck, due to the noise of the nitros we got turned down by every community council here... I will try to achive this goal one more time this summer, but if I fail again, I see no future for my RC racing here anyway. I hope for the best, but for my RC without a track is not worth the effort. Let's hope for the best.

Thank you
Daf

Daf:

Hi,

I too am starting to like crawlers. I have yet to see one in person but I have read about them and been to a few web sites just for them.
for me I like to build. and wrench. I really enjoyed it when my son was racing. when he started to get really good I quit racing and just wrenched for him. we had 4 years of him doing well at big races around where we lived. (onroad) and five years of off road racing too.
I can't paint worth a ...... same for mouting up bodies on sedans. but I can make them work on most any track. offroad I have been away from for awhile but I plan to race every weekend it doesn't rain this summer both days.

I feel for you about getting land for a track. we had a great place to race on asphalt but lost it because of the noise from Nitro sedans. we had just put $7000 in the same asphalt they use in the tracks for NASCAR down too. now it just sits empty. I truly hope you find a good piece of land for your club to build a track on.

Thanks

Tim

Dafni
 

Just leave the truck stock and find a field. That is what I did with my son at the age of 3 yrs.

Still Digging!!
Sorry to read about your luck with a suitable site Daf, There is always someone ready to spoil the fun. Have you tried any industrial sites (noise is less of an issue) Good luck
anyways back on topic
I have a TXT with my old stock Titans and EVX , It is running on 12 cells with 9tooth pinions.....Its still too fast. I have tried running on 6 cells with a link across one batt input, but it seems to lack the torque it had before.
Will wiring the motors in series keep the speed the same as on 6 cells but with better tourque??
many thanks
steve

Hey Steve, I don't know about the torque you'd get, but I guess it'd be better than with 6 cells. If you find out, please report back!

Sorry for the late reply.

Yeah, we're still looking around, and found a guy with a suitable field, next to an industrial area. Best of all, he's a real car wrencher, and was fascinated by our cars. He is basically supporting the idea, but we'll have to discuss the financial aspect and all. Please wish us luck. If this attempt fails, I'll call it a day and will try to get rid of all my cars. Stuff is just to expensive to just bash around, and bashing lost the adrenaline for me anyway. It's either having a track real close or quitting all together. I'll keep on painting though, no matter what.

Daf

You can call me all names you want, but it won't help me find a site for a track. And where is the fun when you can't race??

I agree. Racing is a big part of it for me. Without it bashing gets boring.

Daf:

Hi,

I truly hope you can find a place to race. wegot lucky a trcak opened up about 45 minutes from my house (mostly highway) and although it's not the best... with some work it will be a fun place to race. mostly 1/10th scale trucks and buggies... the gas cars have been tearing up the track quite abit when they run so they might be looking for someplace else to race. :(

Thanks

Dafni, what about electric only track? I know that there are less electric racers, but if having a electrical car to be able to race is what it takes, then maybe more racers will consider it?