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Electric Eel 09.02.2009 08:13 PM

What ever happened to....
 
The 8S Monster
The 1800KV motor
Castle Mod 1 pinions
Conversion sets

Pdelcast 09.02.2009 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric Eel (Post 317913)
The 8S Monster
The 1800KV motor
Castle Mod 1 pinions
Conversion sets

8S Monster is in Beta testing now.
1800Kv motor is in the pipeline -- but we are expanding the factory in China -- can't produce enough 2200 and 2650s now.
Mod 1 pinions are in stock (limited qty)
Conversion kits are in stock (limited qty)

BL_RV0 09.02.2009 10:28 PM

What about the 10S monster?
Are you planning a SHV (20S+) controller for cars?

Unsullied_Spy 09.02.2009 10:56 PM

Is the 1500KV motor in the same boat as the 1800? I'd like a CC Neu for my Muggy but the 2200 really isn't ideal for it.

Pdelcast 09.02.2009 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 317953)
What about the 10S monster?
Are you planning a SHV (20S+) controller for cars?

We are planning to port the Mamba software to the Phoenix-ICE hardware, which will allow for 12S operation on the ICE-HV controller (and datalogging of voltage, current, RPM, etc..) :wink:

Don't think at this point we will do a 12S (or 10S) specific monster -- the ICE hardware just works really well. The ICE-160HV should handle pretty much anything that you can throw at it. :intello:

nitrostarter 09.02.2009 11:21 PM

With Forward, Brakes, reverse correct?

And are the current ICE controllers capable of running the Mamba software?

whitrzac 09.02.2009 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 317971)
We are planning to port the Mamba software to the Phoenix-ICE hardware, which will allow for 12S operation on the ICE-HV controller (and datalogging of voltage, current, RPM, etc..) :wink:

Don't think at this point we will do a 12S (or 10S) specific monster -- the ICE hardware just works really well. The ICE-160HV should handle pretty much anything that you can throw at it. :intello:

sounds like one monster of an esc...:angel: whats the street price??
I'v got a kidney FS if anyone is interested:rofl:

sikeston34m 09.03.2009 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 317971)
We are planning to port the Mamba software to the Phoenix-ICE hardware, which will allow for 12S operation on the ICE-HV controller (and datalogging of voltage, current, RPM, etc..) :wink:

Don't think at this point we will do a 12S (or 10S) specific monster -- the ICE hardware just works really well. The ICE-160HV should handle pretty much anything that you can throw at it. :intello:

This is great news. :yes:

I have some 8S and 10S setups that I've been itching to put together.

Could this be something we get for Christmas?

Pdelcast 09.03.2009 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 317973)
With Forward, Brakes, reverse correct?

And are the current ICE controllers capable of running the Mamba software?

Yep, just a firmware upgrade.

Pdelcast 09.03.2009 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sikeston34m (Post 317984)
This is great news. :yes:

I have some 8S and 10S setups that I've been itching to put together.

Could this be something we get for Christmas?

Should be.


Here's a demo by Tim Jones at IRCHA this year using a Phoenix-ICEHV-160 and a Castle Vertigo motor in a TRex 700 (about 8hp average output power, and 12hp peak...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJ6T...eature=related

Freezebyte 09.03.2009 01:00 AM

Holy hell, 8S brushless?? How would that even be controllable?

drkdgglr 09.03.2009 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 317971)
We are planning to port the Mamba software to the Phoenix-ICE hardware, which will allow for 12S operation on the ICE-HV controller (and datalogging of voltage, current, RPM, etc..) :wink:

when?

brushlessboy16 09.03.2009 07:48 AM

So the Ice HV will have car specific firmware? sweet!


and is there any hardware changes to the Mamba monster to utilize the data logging feature?

Pdelcast 09.03.2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 318026)
So the Ice HV will have car specific firmware? sweet!


and is there any hardware changes to the Mamba monster to utilize the data logging feature?

I didn't say anything about a Mamba Monster with data logging. The Monster doesn't have the right hardware for data logging.

nitrostarter 09.03.2009 10:32 AM

Patrick: I'm trying to clarify this here. The new ICE-HV controllers run the ICE Hardware now which allows for 12s operation as well as data logging. These controllers will be accepting of the Mamba software to run in car operations. With that said, the ICE hardware will still allow for datalogging in the Mamba software operation?

Pdelcast 09.03.2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 318045)
Patrick: I'm trying to clarify this here. The new ICE-HV controllers run the ICE Hardware now which allows for 12s operation as well as data logging. These controllers will be accepting of the Mamba software to run in car operations. With that said, the ICE hardware will still allow for datalogging in the Mamba software operation?

Yes, we are going to port the Mamba software to the ICE platform, and integrate the datalogging capabilities at the same time.

We are not going to incorporate data logging into the current version of the Mamba Monster -- it doesn't have the necessary hardware to do data logging. (I want to make sure nobody gets their hopes up that a download would add data logging features on the MMM.)

nitrostarter 09.03.2009 01:49 PM

Thanks Patrick for clearing that up. Thats what I understood, just wanted clarification.

pinkpanda3310 09.06.2009 08:05 AM

(I want to make sure nobody gets their hopes up that a download would add data logging features on the MMM.)


So the HV160 for air will be available before the car campatable version one would assume. Can these be pre-ordered then updated with the new software when it becomes available?

whitrzac 09.06.2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 318046)
Yes, we are going to port the Mamba software to the ICE platform, and integrate the datalogging capabilities at the same time.

We are not going to incorporate data logging into the current version of the Mamba Monster -- it doesn't have the necessary hardware to do data logging. (I want to make sure nobody gets their hopes up that a download would add data logging features on the MMM.)

:rules:


what about a "downlaod" for the MMP:whistle:


when is this SHV160 going to be avalible??? other 100+ amp ones comting out??

BrianG 09.06.2009 01:23 PM

Unless the ESC has the hardware to support logging (Hall-effect sensor, flash memory, etc), no download will support data logging. The MMM, MM does not have the supporting hardware, and I am 99.9999999% sure the MMPro doesn't have it either.

sikeston34m 09.06.2009 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkpanda3310 (Post 318650)
(I want to make sure nobody gets their hopes up that a download would add data logging features on the MMM.)


So the HV160 for air will be available before the car campatable version one would assume. Can these be pre-ordered then updated with the new software when it becomes available?

I would like to know this also.

I would probably go ahead and purchase a HV ICE controller if this is the case. :yes:

shaunjohnson 09.06.2009 07:16 PM

i'm dreaming of a ICE160 now to replace my monster....
run 6s then with less TVS troubles i would imigine:yipi:

Electric Eel 09.07.2009 12:16 PM

I want that ICE 160 NOW, Patrick! I am holding my breath until you send me one. 1...2...3...

whitrzac 09.07.2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric Eel (Post 318863)
I want that ICE 160 NOW, Patrick! I am holding my breath until you send me one. 1...2...3...


is that considered suicide or murder???:lol:

brushlessboy16 09.07.2009 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 318692)
Unless the ESC has the hardware to support logging (Hall-effect sensor, flash memory, etc), no download will support data logging. The MMM, MM does not have the supporting hardware, and I am 99.9999999% sure the MMPro doesn't have it either.

IIRC the MMP DOES have data logging..:yes:

E-Revonut 09.07.2009 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 318961)
IIRC the MMP DOES have data logging..:yes:

Sorry, You remembered incorrectly

scarletboa 09.08.2009 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 318962)
Sorry, You remembered incorrectly


that's true. i remember pdelcast saying that all the components are final on the MMP and there is no room for the datalogging hardware. :yes:

BrianG 09.08.2009 10:50 AM

lol, yup, unless CC did some last minute changes, I am sure the MMP doesn't have logging (I looked for the IC's :wink:)

himalaya 09.09.2009 04:01 AM

Sounds like there's a "Mamba Monster HV ICE" coming ? a long but attractive name.

Unsullied_Spy 09.09.2009 04:03 AM

Personally I'd prefer "Mamba ICE" or "Mamba ICE-HV." Short n' sweet, we have enough tongue twisters as it is.

Any idea when we can see the car and boat controllers?

Semi Pro 09.09.2009 09:05 PM

and is castle going to void the warrentys on the ICE as soon as we put it into a car like you guys did with the hv110?

rotary rocket 09.10.2009 02:30 AM

Would the ICE 12S controller work for 1/5 car application?

If yes, what motor would be a good fit?

Great news by the way. I have been waiting for such a controller for a real long time.

Unsullied_Spy 09.10.2009 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Semi Pro (Post 319582)
and is castle going to void the warrentys on the ICE as soon as we put it into a car like you guys did with the hv110?

Are you asking if Castle would release a product and not back it up:oh:? I suppose it's possible that they'll release a firmware swap for it with a disclaimer that any damage won't be covered under warranty (though they'll probably still cover it as long as you don't deliberately burn it up). If they're releasing a car-specific model I have every confidence that they'll have out backs on it. I'm still twiddling my thumbs waiting for that Marine version...

Quote:

Originally Posted by rotary rocket (Post 319635)
Would the ICE 12S controller work for 1/5 car application?

If yes, what motor would be a good fit?

Great news by the way. I have been waiting for such a controller for a real long time.

Up to 12s lipo at up to 160 amps, by my math that's over 7,000 watts with the lipos at nominal voltage. That should be plenty to handle a 1/5th scale.

I would say it depends on your application. MasterBlaster's Baja has a Neu 2215 in it and it goes like stink! The highest KV I would go for is the 2Y on 10S, go lower KV and more voltage if you can. A Neu 2230 will power any 1/5th scale R/C currently on the market as long as the ESC and lipos can handle it but that is a $700 motor capable of putting out over 13 HP.

Semi Pro 09.10.2009 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 319638)
Are you asking if Castle would release a product and not back it up:oh:? I suppose it's possible that they'll release a firmware swap for it with a disclaimer that any damage won't be covered under warranty (though they'll probably still cover it as long as you don't deliberately burn it up). If they're releasing a car-specific model I have every confidence that they'll have out backs on it. I'm still twiddling my thumbs waiting for that Marine version...



Up to 12s lipo at up to 160 amps, by my math that's over 7,000 watts with the lipos at nominal voltage. That should be plenty to handle a 1/5th scale.

I would say it depends on your application. MasterBlaster's Baja has a Neu 2215 in it and it goes like stink! The highest KV I would go for is the 2Y on 10S, go lower KV and more voltage if you can. A Neu 2230 will power any 1/5th scale R/C currently on the market as long as the ESC and lipos can handle it but that is a $700 motor capable of putting out over 13 HP.


i used to think that too, untill they said we were voiding our warrentys by useing them in cars

Pdelcast 09.10.2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Semi Pro (Post 319737)
i used to think that too, untill they said we were voiding our warrentys by useing them in cars

That's because the Phoenix-HV was never designed for use in cars, doesn't have the right hardware for cars, and doesn't have the right software for cars. So we don't warranty them for use in cars, or power tools, or sex toys, or anything non-airplane. :lol:

If we decide to release a car version of the ICE-HV, it will be warrantied for use in cars. It's possible that the car version may be exactly the same as the airplane version, but not definite yet -- we haven't done enough testing to make that determination yet.

Unsullied_Spy 09.10.2009 06:14 PM

How about the boat version? That's the one I'm really interested in. Just waterproof it, add water cooling, and toss the Hydra software on it already!

Pdelcast 09.10.2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 319750)
How about the boat version? That's the one I'm really interested in. Just waterproof it, add water cooling, and toss the Hydra software on it already!

On the way soon (a couple months most likely.) We just finished the design for the water cooled heat sink, and are waiting for the water cooled extrusion samples.

Bad Karma 09.10.2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 319760)
On the way soon (a couple months most likely.) We just finished the design for the water cooled heat sink, and are waiting for the water cooled extrusion samples.

So is there going to be a Mamba Ice HV in the next couple months too?

Unsullied_Spy 09.10.2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 319760)
On the way soon (a couple months most likely.) We just finished the design for the water cooled heat sink, and are waiting for the water cooled extrusion samples.

Alright. I got an Etti instead, I'm determined to have my SuperVee back in the water before winter. Maybe an ICE will find it's way into my next boat project.

suicideneil 09.10.2009 08:59 PM

You guys are hopeless at naming escs- any HV ICE car controller badged as the higher voltage/ current version of the MMM would ofcourse be called:

The ICE Monster...

:yes:

I'll take one as payment for coming up with that beautiful name :smile:


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