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TexasSP 10.16.2009 09:24 PM

Windows 7
 
I have Vista Ultimate, should I spend the 200 and upgrade to 7? This question is posed to people who have used 7, thanks.

What advantages have you noticed in 7 over vista?

etc1006 10.16.2009 09:27 PM

I'd give it a few months before jumping on the bandwagon. Thats what I'm planning on doing.

BrianG 10.16.2009 09:30 PM

+1. If you are at least somewhat happy with Vista, I'd wait until the first flurry of bugs are worked out. I usually wait until SP1 is released before jumping the gun.

jnev 10.16.2009 11:15 PM

I have heard good things about Windows 7 so far. I actually bought a new laptop recently so it came with a free upgrade to Windows 7. I applied for the upgrade earlier this week and should be receiving it in the mail next week some time. I'll let you guys know how it works.

Arct1k 10.16.2009 11:23 PM

I've been running it for 6 months - I like it... Not sure I'd justify that outlay though

Cleaner gui
Slightly faster
Much less intrusive access control

bigboi146 10.16.2009 11:25 PM

Do you have any screenshots?

wallot 10.17.2009 12:20 AM

If there are drivers available for your hardware then YES

MetalMan 10.17.2009 01:57 AM

About a month ago there was an offer for Windows 7 for college students, which I took advantage of. $30 for the upgrade, can't go wrong! Won't be able to download it 'til October 22nd though, when it is officially released.

Unsullied_Spy 10.17.2009 06:01 AM

I got the Beta and never used it. I have Vista Home Premium on most of the machines I use and there's nothing wrong with it. I know I will eventually go to W7, but not until it's more mature and I stop being pissed about dishing out all this money for Vista only to have a new OS come a few years later. Everyone I know of that has used it has really liked it so hopefully M$ finally has a winning O.S. out of the box but who knows.

suicideneil 10.17.2009 06:02 AM

I wonder if that student edition of 7 is like its XP predecessor- no need to register it... :whistle:

TexasSP 10.17.2009 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 327729)
I've been running it for 6 months - I like it... Not sure I'd justify that outlay though

Cleaner gui
Slightly faster
Much less intrusive access control

This is what I am looking for. I don't hate vista, but the speed could be better and the obtrusiveness is a pain. Dell is offering me a special upgrade price. I know it's not the machine, I have 2.4 ghz dual core with 4 mb ram on my XPS.

I got the beta and never had the chance to set it up.

Raze ST Truggy 10.17.2009 01:04 PM

I'm running the 64bit verion of the release candidate on my machine:

Core2 duo 3.16 E8500
8Gig of G.SKILL DDR2-1100 PC2-8800 RAM
GeForce GTS 250 Grafix card
350gig WD HD
LG Blue-ray

I'm not a gamer or anything, I just decided to build a computer and this is what I came up with . I'm only running this OS becasue a few people I work with suggested it and so far it has worked well for me. This thing will boot up in what seems like 30 seconds (though I have not timed it)

I have played COD 4 on it (the only game I've ever played on a PC so I have not other reference) and everything seemed to be great. I don't know if that speeks of the OS at all, but I thought I'd post up.

-Brian

Freezebyte 10.17.2009 01:11 PM

Heard lots of good things about Win 7, but unless you like being a new OS guinea pig and dealing with virgin OS issues, wait for a few months.

Snipin_Willy 10.17.2009 01:27 PM

Win 7 was available in beta for a long time, and free at that. I put it on my older Athlon 3200+ machine and it worked great. I'm sure they've worked out a few bugs since then, even.

snellemin 10.17.2009 01:31 PM

Win 7 doesn't require more memory to run "fast" like vista does. Win 7 is faster when running apps. My buddy in the OS team at HP really likes Win7 over Vista any day. An he's been running it for a long time. I personally still run xp, but with the gui of Vista. I only run Vista on one unit and it runs ok compared to the xp.

TexasSP 10.17.2009 02:09 PM

I think I will be upgrading. I have heard nothing but good about 7 and with the discount it's not that much.

JThiessen 10.17.2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 327816)
I think I will be upgrading. I have heard nothing but good about 7 and with the discount it's not that much.

I'd probably do the same Tex. But just between you and me, I bet you still have your problems. I've owned about 10 Dell's so far, and I've had two that were just pigs - shouldn't have been based on the specs, but for some reason they just wouldnt perform no matter how I configured them, or what the OS was.

JoFreak 10.17.2009 03:08 PM

I'm installing my win7 (MSDNAA) right now on my desktop-pc.
The win7 RC ran fine, so why should the final version be worse.
And since it's heavily based on Vista it's not an entirely new OS, so there shouldn't be any bugs as bad as there were in the XP and Vista relase versions.



Only a few minutes left till setup is finished:yes:


edit: done:yipi:

Duster_360 10.17.2009 09:26 PM

Have just replaced the wife's PC (7yrs old) with a XPS8000 studio. Came with 64bit ver of Vista, she seems to like it, but I see what you mean about obtrusiveness - get asked to confirm everything you do. It came with the Win7 upgrade offer and I've already registered.

Its time to replace my 2 business laptops and I may wait for Win 7 SP1 unless I start having issues with either. Friend dnloaded the beta ver of Win7 and really likes it, but he jumped from XP and doesn't have any feeling for how diff/better it is relative to Vista.

shaunjohnson 10.17.2009 09:33 PM

meh i skipped all the vista rubbish and kept my copy of windows XP, it's served me well, and it does the job well.

kulangflow 10.17.2009 10:52 PM

I've been using Windows 7 for about 6 months on four laptops and two desktops. I absolutely love it, and I hate Vista with a passion. It installs easier and quicker. It dual-boots very easily, so you can keep whatever you currently run right along side it in case you run into any driver issues. I haven't had any driver problems myself. Oh yeah, it's way faster than Vista too.

Here's the craziest part: I installed it on an old Dell C400 (1.2 GHz CPU, 512MB RAM) and it actually works. No problems at all. Crazy, right? I'm a big XP fan, but I'm really impressed with Windows 7, and it's still new.

PS: I'm not a M$ salesman or stock-holder. :lol:

jayjay283 10.17.2009 11:05 PM

Windows 7 seems like what we have been waiting for LOL right.... People think Obama or George Bush are the devil... They sent us $300 bucks stimulus tax money..Bill Gates takes that and $62 more bucks to upgrade. Nazi

snellemin 10.17.2009 11:05 PM

Yes, the best thing about Win7 is that you can install it on old hardware, unlike the crappy Vista.

shaunjohnson 10.18.2009 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay283 (Post 327904)
Windows 7 seems like what we have been waiting for LOL right.... People think Obama or George Bush are the devil... They sent us $300 bucks stimulus tax money..Bill Gates takes that and $62 more bucks to upgrade. Nazi

we got $900 here....but at the time i wasnt a tax payer!! so no new RC for me, and the worst bit was that one month later, i did qualify:lol:

BlackedOutREVO 10.18.2009 03:04 PM

Haha I guess I will be the outsider. But I hate windblows all together lol. Nothing in it has anything for me except gaming. I dual boot my iMac and still have XP. My version of 7 is ordered though. I did the beta thing and 7 wasnt bad. Alot better then vista for sure.

TexasSP 10.18.2009 04:47 PM

FTR I hate Mac and their OS. I refuse to pay over twice for a shell which literally uses the same parts as most PC's. I also hate Mac's "we're better because we're better" customer service and their non "genius" bar. My wife has been through 5 ipods in the time I have had my second gen zune as well and I have accidentally dunked the zune in water as well, hers on the other hand just stopped working every time for no plausible reason. Then to have to deal with the Mac people that seem to think just because a PC exists in the same house as her ipod that that has to be the reason they keep failing, even though 4 of them failed with here Mac laptop.

Oh, and then try to network a mac and even worse get it to use a network printer, and this is with a Mac IT support specialist. Then the fact no one wants to write drivers for their proprietary code and so on........

I by no means love windows or think it is perfect, but for all around OS functionality, what else is there, really.

In response to JThiessen, my laptop is fast, it's just the OS that slows up. I have pushed it hard and I am happy with the speed of the computer.

BlackedOutREVO 10.18.2009 05:14 PM

I dont agree at all with you. I have had pretty much every ipod till the iphone and none of them have broken. And believe me, I do drop them, sit on the etc. And ive had every iPhone to, 2g, 3g, 3gs. None break, I just like having the new shiz. And you can make money selling them by jail breaking the phones. haha. I still have the original ipod ever made, the little 4 gig brick from like 6 years ago and it works fine. So you breaking ipods idk wtf your doing to them? But not one person I know has gone through 5 damn ipods. Thats just bs...

networking on a mac with printers, im sorry but if you think thats hard to do for some reason.... no comment. No drivers, again wth? HP and epson have all that stuff. Not sure about the little companies but for the most part anything we have used besides those 2 suck.

Besides Microsoft office everything else they make is shit. I will never buy anything else from them. Ever.

tedo 10.18.2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 328030)
FTR I hate Mac and their OS. I refuse to pay over twice for a shell which literally uses the same parts as most PC's. I also hate Mac's "we're better because we're better" customer service and their non "genius" bar. My wife has been through 5 ipods in the time I have had my second gen zune as well and I have accidentally dunked the zune in water as well, hers on the other hand just stopped working every time for no plausible reason. Then to have to deal with the Mac people that seem to think just because a PC exists in the same house as her ipod that that has to be the reason they keep failing, even though 4 of them failed with here Mac laptop.

Oh, and then try to network a mac and even worse get it to use a network printer, and this is with a Mac IT support specialist. Then the fact no one wants to write drivers for their proprietary code and so on........

I by no means love windows or think it is perfect, but for all around OS functionality, what else is there, really.

In response to JThiessen, my laptop is fast, it's just the OS that slows up. I have pushed it hard and I am happy with the speed of the computer.

Wow. I agree with BlackOutRevo: You think networking a printer on OS is tough!! What OS were you running (or trying to run)?

The only good thing about PCs: they're the only operating system that detects Hotwire. And even that is clunky and awkward.

Please Tekin, come out with Hotwire for the mac.

suicideneil 10.18.2009 06:23 PM

I hate Macs because they only have one mouse button... ITS NOT RIGHT I TELL YOU, ITS JUST NOT RIGHT!!!...

Anyway, I wonder if the castlelink will work with W7?

kraegar 10.18.2009 08:36 PM

Win 7 is ok. At the driver layer it's really similar to vista, overall. Speed improvements in the gui are nice, and it's benchmarking slightly better, so that's good. Still lags a bit behind xp on my hardware, but not bad.

I have a mac, and like it also, as does my wife. Just works... of course, I'm an IT guy, so half my pc's are always in some state of rebuild or repair.

Can't say either of the mac laptops have given me problems. Nor the AIX box. Nothing runs like my NeXT (17 years and still ticking... though it's boxed up at the moment, ran out of space).

The only OS I get really frustrated with is Linux, it's so near to great as a Unix, but falls short in so many little ways. Oh, and vista64 when I ran into a case where the side-by-side manifests got corrupted, and no 32bit apps would run... including all the installers MS kept recommending to fix the issue. Rebuild was the only solution, in the end.

Wow, did I ramble. Yeah, so far Win7 seems OK. lol

TexasSP 10.18.2009 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 328033)
I dont agree at all with you. I have had pretty much every ipod till the iphone and none of them have broken. And believe me, I do drop them, sit on the etc. And ive had every iPhone to, 2g, 3g, 3gs. None break, I just like having the new shiz. And you can make money selling them by jail breaking the phones. haha. I still have the original ipod ever made, the little 4 gig brick from like 6 years ago and it works fine. So you breaking ipods idk wtf your doing to them? But not one person I know has gone through 5 damn ipods. Thats just bs...

networking on a mac with printers, im sorry but if you think thats hard to do for some reason.... no comment. No drivers, again wth? HP and epson have all that stuff. Not sure about the little companies but for the most part anything we have used besides those 2 suck.

Besides Microsoft office everything else they make is shit. I will never buy anything else from them. Ever.

Wow, you have no clue how to argue a case do you. Why is it every mac lover feels the need to invade a thread that has nothing to do with a mac and talk crap. I really could care less if you believe my wife went through 5 ipods or not. You also may want to retake some reading comprehension classes as I said my wife and not myself had these.

One of my best friends is a Mac specialist, and while he loves Mac he admits they are far from the perfect system Mac lovers want you to believe they are. This isn't some 22 year old kid fresh out of college that has no experience but a guy who is almost 40 with over 20 years IT experience.

I am sorry, but you came out like a total douche in your post saying you don't agree with the FACT that I have had and seen many problems with Macs.

Arct1k 10.18.2009 10:42 PM

Macs vs pcs it's like novak vs castle... They both do the job just differently...

The debate will never end but I don't think this was the aim of the thread...

PLAY NICE

Ps I have pc and mac and typing this on a 3gs

Sammus 10.20.2009 08:12 PM

I'm running a OEM copy of Win7 (retail), and was running the release candidate evaluation for several months before now. It looks quite similar to vista (ie screenies aren't much good) but it is MUCH less of a system resource hog. It runs heaps better and is heaps more compatible with everything, hardware and software. Vista is a total PITA and I hate it, W7 is by far the best OS I think I've run. (everything from windows 3.1 to 7, ubuntu redhat and gentoo and Mac OSX).

Arct1k 10.20.2009 08:37 PM

I ordered windows 7 yest to replace W7 RC that i've run for a while

TexasSP 10.20.2009 09:57 PM

Well thank you sammus, I think you may have just sealed the deal with me.

etc1006 10.20.2009 10:11 PM

I got an email from Circuit City with the pricing and all for 7. $110 for Home Edition 32 bit. Not running to order it yet still. Now my question. W/ Vista 64 on mine now, will there be any problems running a 32 bit OS in it's place? I didn't see a 64 bit option...

Sammus 10.20.2009 10:32 PM

There is a 64 bit option, I'm not sure why theyre not selling it. There isn't really any problem, but in a 32bit OS you can only utilize 3GB of ram, so if you have more than that it won't be getting used.

Cartwheels 10.21.2009 12:51 AM

Since we are on the topic what is the difference between 32 bit and 64 bit? Besides 32 bits and price. I have been pricing new laptops and I have noticed the option.

Sammus 10.21.2009 12:58 AM

It's pretty techincal, but basically the CPU and associated components work with blocks of data 64 bits in size instead of 32bits. There's some good reading on wiki if you're interested :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64_bit#32_vs_64_bit

Cartwheels 10.21.2009 01:07 AM

Thanks, I'll check it out.


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