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4u2nv 02.22.2006 01:51 PM

Which lipos for 9xl & 9920? Please help. 10c?15c?20c?
 
I have a Gmaxx I've been building and I'm in need of some advice. I have a 9920 esc with a 9xl motor. I have the single speed conversion on my maxx. My question is what can I run for Lipos? There are so many options. My biggest question is can I run 10c or 15c or do I need 20c batteries. I know I want to use 11.1v 3s 4000 mah packs but I don't know what the difference is between the 10c,15c or 20c versions of them. I know price is a big difference. Could someone please help. Thanks Guys.

Serum 02.22.2006 02:08 PM

i would take the 20C things, the XL motors can draw serious amps.

that 80A the 20C 4000mAh packs can deliver is just enough.

Superemaxx89 02.22.2006 02:15 PM

I would go 6s for a 9xl

Serum 02.22.2006 02:30 PM

I assumed he ment 2 11.1V packs in serie.. :D (the way it's meant to be.. )

4u2nv 02.22.2006 04:35 PM

So no less than 20c then correct? And I did mean I was going to use two 3s packs together sorry for the confusion? Any idea where to get the best deals on packs like these?

Serum 02.22.2006 04:40 PM

I would use a minimum of 4S or 5S with this motor, otherwise the motor will take very much current from your packs and run not as efficient as you would like.

4u2nv 02.22.2006 05:38 PM

Would these batteries be ok?

http://cgi.ebay.com/11-1V-4000Lithiu...QQcmdZViewItem

squeeforever 02.22.2006 05:41 PM

i think those would be fine.

Serum 02.22.2006 05:53 PM

Not in 3S with a 9XL, or are you planning on running 25-30 mph?

coolhandcountry 02.22.2006 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4u2nv
So no less than 20c then correct? And I did mean I was going to use two 3s packs together sorry for the confusion?

I think this mean he is going to run 6s lipo rene. Which should work great on the 9xl motor.

kmracer66 02.22.2006 06:37 PM

nice new graphic there serum.

4u2nv 02.22.2006 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4u2nv

OK, I'm going to clear up my question. I'm asking if I can use the batteries above with a 9920 esc and a 9xl motor. I will be using 2 - 11.1v 3s packs which should make 1 - 6s pack if I'm correct. So It should make a 11.1v 6s 4000mah 15c. Will this be good? What can I expect for speeds?

coolhandcountry 02.22.2006 08:54 PM

6s is 22.2volts. It should be fine with the batteries. I think I would go with the 20c rated batteries for a little extra insurance.

skellyo 02.22.2006 09:23 PM

You might want to check out these Hyperion 20C packs:

http://cheapbatterypacks.com/main.as...id=tp&sort=V20

They only have up to 3700mah, but at 20C, that should be more than adequate, especially since they're rated at 30C burst for 30sec.

mmdooley 02.22.2006 09:58 PM

You might check these out. Their LiMn's and are suppose to be as good as lipo's but not as dangerous

MetalMan 02.22.2006 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 4u2nv

NO!! If you look at the auction, it says this pack has 18ga. wire... That's WAY too thin. Even if the wire was thicker, I would not trust these "new Chinese cells"... Go for something with a reputation, like Hyperion, Polyquest, or LiMn.

20C is unnecessary IMO. If you get a pack that can handle about 45amps continuous with 80amps burst then that should be adequate. A 6000mah 8C pack is rated to deliver 48amps continuously (for example), and would give better runtime than a 4000mah pack. Unless you are extremely worried about weight, I wouldn't even get a 20C pack. You pay a lot extra for them, and 10C-15C packs are plenty...

mmdooley 02.22.2006 10:29 PM

Sorry I posted the wrong link. These packs are 20c.

http://www.pfmdistribution.com/

coolhandcountry 02.22.2006 11:09 PM

The 9xl with a hi gearing for a speed run can suck some amps. It will thermal a 18.97 schulze on a warm day. So I would get the 20c rating.

MetalMan 02.23.2006 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by coolhandcountry
The 9xl with a hi gearing for a speed run can suck some amps. It will thermal a 18.97 schulze on a warm day. So I would get the 20c rating.

I am curious, do you think a 20C 2000mah pack would work? It's 20C, so it must work...

The "C" in a rating stands for Capacity. IMO, that's the most important part of a rating. One could get a 4000mah 10C pack that would handle just as many amps as a 2000mah 20C pack, but give double the runtime.
It's up to the buyer of a pack to go for what he/she wants. With a high "C" rating, you can get a smaller capacity (lighter) pack that can handle a lot of amps, or with a higher capacity (heavier) pack you can get a longer runtime. coolhand, I know you, and you love runtime...
Then of course there is the option to get a large 20C pack, but most likely that will just add a lot of weight over the lower "C" rated pack. Not only that, it will also cost a lot more.

coolhandcountry 02.23.2006 04:20 PM

Well for me metal man a 4000 mah pack at 15c I am not sure I would run on a speed run with a xl motor for the fact is they can suck some serious amps. The 20 c would hold a higher voltage as well to. Yes I do like a good runtime. I am also a fan of going fast. Now if you talking a 6000mah pack with a 15 c rating I would say yeah.

MetalMan 02.23.2006 09:34 PM

A 6s 6000mah 15C pack would be quite expensive! I myself can hardly afford a 4s 5400mah 8C pack... In this case it does come down to the budget, and desired weight.

A 6s 4000mah 15C pack could dish out 60amps continuously, for an average continuous power output of about 1200watts (depending on the particular cells), and should be capable of 10sec. 20C bursts, which gives about 1500watts burst. More could be attained in peak draws, I'm guessing about 1800watts. Even this pack would be rather expensive, I'd estimate $300-$315... That's a lot! About 3 times more than I could spend.

coolhandcountry 02.23.2006 09:47 PM

Yeah I hear you metal man. I guess it would depend on what you planning on the packs to. It you go conservative it would be fine. I wouldn't worry. On speed runs and such is where the concern would be. I was thinking the 20 c would be better for run cooler than the 15 c and run a higher voltage. I have not ran them yet metal man. I have been looking and listening to you. :D You the lipo man.


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