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stum 10.24.2009 12:42 AM

Mod to fix or replace castles crappy ESC fan?
 
I've PAID for and burnt about 4 fans and replaced 6... is there any mods or better fans out their to fix castle crappy included fan? This is retarded, I don't even want to try and get it covered as I just get more JUNK fans. My buggy's esc is overheating, motor and batts are great temps but due to the fan not working after about 12minutes it Thermals and shuts down... getting annoying. Problem is I'm already geared too high for the track and typically to reduce ESC temp your gear up a touch if all other components are cool. 13/48 gearing (8ight-e)

Metallover 10.24.2009 01:01 AM

tehe someone told you so.. lol

I've seen some people putting a mesh screen on the top of the fan to keep rocks and such out. Do you have any horrific driving conditions?

big greg 10.24.2009 02:14 AM

did you cut the top off the esc? i do this to mine and they run about 20 degrees cooler, i have glued an external 5 and 12v fan on top of the heatsink, i hooked the 5v up to the existing plug and the 12v i soldered right to the bullets, but as of right now i can run 15+ minutes without a fan on my bug and trug

stum 10.24.2009 08:38 AM

It's funny w/ my tekno conversion all of this last season I could run as much as I wanted pack after pack after pack and never overheat... now that I'm running the losi conversion, something about it and my ESC overheats.. I'm only geared 13/48 and there is no binds anywhere, basically stock w/ my MMM system, speed is nice not out of control but the heat just builds up faster. I just dropped a kyosho plastic 44t spur in to see if the gearing will help, but I highly doubt it, sometimes when everything else is cool and the ESC is not the system is undergeared.. if that doesn't work, I'll drop to a 50t spur and see what it does.

Back on subject if the fan wasn't junk I wouldn't have to worry about any of this.. guess it's time for me to cut the top off and take matters into my own hands.

brushlessboy16 10.24.2009 10:34 AM

No way that esc should be thrermalling.

I hav ran 15 minute mains with a MMM 2200kv combo in my 8ight. With no fan.

check for binding in the drivetrain

TexasSP 10.24.2009 10:53 AM

I am with Ben on this one. You changed the conversion and started having problems, so that is where I would start looking.

stum 10.24.2009 05:14 PM

Please note.. I included I already looked for binding issues.. rechecked all bearings it spins freely.. perfect actually. This is a BRAND NEW BUILD, everything is new and it rolls smoother than my tekno 8ight did.

It does weigh more...
It is geared to a different ratio

It maybe around the 15min mark, but I didn't want to extend the time as I didn't watch the clock either time... it thermaled.. I get through about a pack (4s 5k Hyperion)

Unsullied_Spy 10.25.2009 07:06 AM

Cut off the plastic covering the heatsink and it'll get better natural airflow, cutting a hole in the body will allow for even more. You could try putting another fan on but IMO if you were killing the stock fans you'd better find a pretty good fan to replace it or you'll just toast the new fan as well.

stum 10.25.2009 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 329333)
Cut off the plastic covering the heatsink and it'll get better natural airflow, cutting a hole in the body will allow for even more. You could try putting another fan on but IMO if you were killing the stock fans you'd better find a pretty good fan to replace it or you'll just toast the new fan as well.

Yes, I dremeled off the top and pulled the fan right out, trimmed down the case on the sides oppisite the wires flat so it should get real nice natural air flow.. the fan wasn't working before and w/o the "winter hat" on it I'm sure my run time will move up. Racing today, will find out soon enough :)

Cartwheels 10.25.2009 07:39 PM

I have two MMM ESC's that when the fan runs makes it a zzzzzzz sound. I think a blade is rubbing something. I have broken so many fans on my RC's over they years (not on the MMM though). I wish there was a stronger model of fan.

Is it possible to fix the zzzzzz sound or should I not worry about it till after it breaks completely?

Freezebyte 10.25.2009 08:36 PM

Fired "Frostbyte" up for a bash session this morning and it made its first tell tale sound of a failing fan grinding away. Uh oh......

fastbaja5b 10.25.2009 10:02 PM

Will the ESC work if I just unplug this stupid fan? I want to position a 40mm fan on the body just above the ESC instead. Have done this in my Mini Slash and it works great.

Cartwheels 10.28.2009 12:23 AM

Has anyone tried this fan. It is made by Integy, so I don't know if it is any good!

http://www.hobbywarehouse.com/C22479...479-GP&cvsfe=2

Rusteh101 10.28.2009 09:58 AM

I run a piece of foam on top of the ESC held in place by the Traxxas hold down, the fan has stayed clean so far and isn't showing any signs of giving up yet!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...C03063Copy.jpg

bruce750i 10.28.2009 10:09 AM

That looks like a good idea Rusteh101.

BrianG 10.28.2009 10:42 AM

Has anyone tried this fan:

BL_RV0 10.28.2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 329866)
Has anyone tried this fan:

Um...?

BrianG 10.28.2009 10:57 AM

Exactly.

big greg 10.28.2009 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 329866)
Has anyone tried this fan:

it works awesome! quiet to!

BrianG 10.28.2009 12:49 PM

lol, I'm glad someone got it. :lol:

lutach 10.28.2009 02:23 PM

Brian,

I might have a solution for your problems. I just have to wait and see if it'll get done. Answer one thing for me though. If one has a product that can dissipate 2-3 times more heat then copper and with a little airflow (when vehicle is moving), would a fan still be needed?

BrianG 10.28.2009 02:54 PM

lol, I don't personally think a fan is needed as it is right now. But, any extra help in better dissipating materials will help I'm sure.

lutach 10.28.2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 329901)
lol, I don't personally think a fan is needed as it is right now. But, any extra help in better dissipating materials will help I'm sure.

I'll probably start a new thread about it when and if it gets done.

Bondonutz 10.28.2009 03:41 PM

Not saying my set ups are perfect but the fan is something I never had a issue with ?
I have 6 M.M.M's and a few have ben in for repairs, 1 has ben in twice but never a fan ?

Is the issue with wearing the fans out or them breaking from debris getting logged in there ?

stum 10.28.2009 04:57 PM

I race weekly on 1/8 race tracks w/ large jumps.. the fans just give out over time from the hard landings I suppose.. notice they just released a 'new improved fan' so please don't think this has been isolated to just me. Most people I know have replaced the fans at least 1x. They are just cheapo computer fans after all, never designed for taking impacts etc.

Bondonutz 10.28.2009 05:11 PM

No accusations on my end, just curious.

Your "big jumps" on the track doesn't come close to the jumps I subject my trucks to.
15-20+ feet of air is the norm, and LOTS of hard ugly landings. I've killed a couple ESC's with these stunts but not the fan, go figure ?

BrianG 10.28.2009 05:41 PM

Maybe you kill the ESC before the fan has a chance to fail? :wink:

Bondonutz 10.28.2009 07:24 PM

In not so many words, yes.

Semi Pro 10.28.2009 08:39 PM

i have always run everything fanless, the fan is a bandaid for a bad setup and its actualy makeing things worse by drawing power off of the bec

Bondonutz 10.28.2009 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Semi Pro (Post 329948)
the fan is a bandaid

With learning from what I have (A LOT) from Mr.BrianG over the last few years I agree whole-heartedly.
In 6 different trucks my fans never come on, and most are on 4s.

MetalMan 10.28.2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 329866)
Has anyone tried this fan:

Yes, several times. Never had a thermal that way either. Now I keep the fans in because it's not worth the hassle to remove them.

rchippie 10.29.2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusteh101 (Post 329860)
I run a piece of foam on top of the ESC held in place by the Traxxas hold down, the fan has stayed clean so far and isn't showing any signs of giving up yet!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...C03063Copy.jpg

I think doing that would restrict the air flow to the esc .

Rusteh101 10.29.2009 06:20 PM

It's quite breathable, hasn't seem to have caused any problems.

Cartwheels 10.30.2009 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stum (Post 329919)
notice they just released a 'new improved fan' so please don't think this has been isolated to just me.

Where is the the new and improved fan? Is this it? I need a new fan.

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...ment_case.html


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